Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
If dying of cold in a storm counts as honorable AND wether or not you had a choice doesn't count then being sacrificed by the gods in their struggle to save reality would be honorable.

No one said anything about competence.
Let's say that some highly unskilled (battle-wise) dwarf is attacked by monsters while he is happily minding his own business. And then dies being mauled by those monsters, because of his utter incompetence in fighting. Does it count as honorable?
If yes, then the kid is safe.
Neither of them has chosen to start the battle, both of them died because they weren't able to defend themselves.

Adding that AFAICT there is in this universe some sort of equivalence between dying fighting and dying honorably, without any regard for who starts the battle itself (and without any regard for the fact that a battle has really happened at all: just think about fighting trees!), I tend to think the kid is safe.

Maybe the simple fact that he tries to "Tunn unn deeh!" is enough to say that he fought at the best of his skills, even if the turning failed miserably.