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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    Could you maybe make up your mind? Does she face adversity or not?
    Nice dodge lol.

    I'm talking about what heroes go through. Rey has agency issues and is problematic as a main character and hero. At no point in TFA is she actively trying to defeat the First Order as her goal. She actually ends up on Starkiller Base because she is running *away* from the plot and ends up being kidnapped. Then she rescues herself and bumps into the others while escaping. Then Kylo chases her down, not the other way around. Her encounter with him is not her decision, or choice. He forces it on her, and her ability to defeat him is not her own doing, the Force allows her to defeat him.

    There is a difference between someone facing adversity, and someone struggling to accomplish something in a hero's journey. The whole point that started this back and forth is that Kylo, the villain, is the one we see really struggling to achieve something (whatever that is), and Rey is sort of just waffling around with unearned power.
    The training montage generally isn't where you see the results.
    Yes it is. And there wasn't a training montage. It's like we watched a different movie...
    Of course it is. When she went to Luke, it was explicitly to get him to sign up, because they were losing. It's almost the first thing out of her mouth when she meets him.
    That's the goal of the resistance, not Rey's goal.
    Last edited by Dr.Samurai; 2018-01-05 at 09:27 PM.