Quote Originally Posted by Anteros View Post
Well in that case I stopped being challenged at level 0.
Well, I'd argue that survival isn't about challenge, it's about immersion (for better or worse). You've got to pay attention to the details, and you can't skip intervening distances. Yes, that does necessarily mean a fair amount of yak shaving, if you're intent on playing survival the same way you'd play normal, ie: lug back every ounce of movable scrap back to a base. But you don't have to do that. You can travel lean, leave most stuff behind, and only use vertibirds when you really have a purpose for them.