Quote Originally Posted by upho View Post
And here's the "samey" myth again. Didn't play much 4e games using more than the PHB, and never with PCs using options like hybrid classing, did you?
It was my first RPG and what got me into Tabletop games to begin with. I owned every book until I stopped at the 3rd Players handbook because even then I felt like I was getting the same thing over and over.

Is that still not enough? You gott buy three BILLION books of repetative samey powers until things that feel like actual archetypes representing characters start coming out?
For instance playing an illusionist wizard meant you played the same old wizard but it did psychic damage. The most illusionisty thing they let the wizard have was make a wall as an encounter power but then they changed that into a daily power (Maybe they changed that back again but I was done by them).

Thats what I mean by bumper cars. You play the impression of characters and not really the characters themselves.