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    Bugbear in the Playground
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    Default Re: Death Battle IV: The Source Material Loses

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemmy View Post
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    An impact strong enough can disperse non-solid matter away. An impact or explosion with enough force could theoretically accelerate molecules fast enough to leave the gravitational pull of whatever celestial bodies they find themselves on.

    You keep saying "Power levels are BS"... Have you ever watched DBZ? In 99% of the fights, the winner is the guy with the highest power level! What the show (and its characters) tell us is that power level isn't all that matters. But even a nigh-immortal super-being with unlimited stamina, absurd toughness, amazing regenerative powers and the the techniques of nearly all main characters in the series still lost to a 12-yo because that 12-yo had a higher PL.

    And while characters don't mention "power levels" after the Freeza saga, they still mention "power" all the time. You can assume the characters were just boasting... But then you gotta assume everything that isn't explicitly shown is just boasting... Like "infinity pages" and Specter "weighting as much as eternity". What annoys me in these discussions is how the level of scrutiny for what should and should not be considered is completely different for each side...

    "Can destroy the solar planet" is apparently too much, even if it completely fits the power scaling of the show... But "has infinity strength" is acceptable, even though it goes against everything shown in comics, movies and shows... Because... He lifted a magic book that supposedly has infinity pages (according to Superman himself and no one else).
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    They are bull**** in the sense that the numbers don't have any real relations to abilities. Higher power level= victory yes but the idea that you can use them for calculations (they can do that at power level x so when you multiply it by 100 they can do 100 times as much!) has little grounding in the relative progression of feats and power levels.

    Question if a character had for instance the proportional strength of a spider would you go by calculations based on that or feats displayed?
    Last edited by Ibrinar; 2018-05-25 at 07:20 AM.