Quote Originally Posted by Stelio Kontos View Post
So in your minds optimized = perfectly versatile?
No, in my mind, an optimized character should be able to fly by level 6 or so.

Quote Originally Posted by Calthropstu View Post
We'll have to disagree on the fly. But the first point, yeah the fighter should have had SOME options... even if it was just "I take out my composite longbow +4 strength"
I've seen players try the longbow route, it doesn't accomplish a whole lot, and if it does, it's slow and tedious.