Quote Originally Posted by archon_huskie View Post
That actually is canon. It's why no one is responding to Leia's distress call.

The problem is that it is not shown or stated in the movies themselves. And sadly there's a title crawl. They could have added just a sentence or two to it and boom it is covered!


After the Force Awakens came out, there was a stage act put on at Disney World. A few First Order Troopers came out, did a photo opt with a kid dressed as Kylo Ren. While posing, one of the Troopers said, "There is no Order without the First Order."

I'd like to think that's a Canon propaganda slogan used by the First Order.
in a galaxy far away we still have three stoges in the daily life. there is "the sith order" which created way the f back in the story when jedi had civil war. then sith order gets destroyed multiple times and reborns from its ashes. then there is a group of dolts calling them selfs as first order of sith i mean they made jar jar blinks look smart