Let's split the difference. Half up front, half after and we both do a public declaration heading to the Foundry. Talking with the Ironfang's they would be willing to incorporate with us for [4 permanent economy]. If you join us with 2, we can split their troops in half with us getting the leader and you getting the land. We could also make a deal with them to hire them for a year instead which should be enough time to settle everything but risks them dying and you still needing to get their land.
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So you give half this turn, I get it I will secede the territory then I get the other half. This also lets me confirm I can actually get a territory at 12 so I don't accidentally kill myself.
Ironfangs want 4 permanent economy to incorporate. Don't know what resources we exactly get for that but we get their vip and land for sure. Them being alive might get us a stronger person working for us but that risks them turning.