Quote Originally Posted by Doug Lampert View Post
If we maintain that DS advances casting is an inadmissiable houserule, then so is DS does not advance casting level an inadmissable houserule. Both would be houserules and advance and does not advance casting are both reasonable alternatives with plenty of precedent. A non-houseruled Elan is a ship that has sailed.
I'm sorry, what? You advance two contradictory propositions, both with zero evidence, and insist this empowers you to make demands about Elan's build?

This is textbook unreasonable doubt. It's rooted in hypothesized and unpresented evidence. I've changed my mind, 16+/1+ is the right answer because letting arguments like this dictate the discussion is poisonous. If we have to update the OP with a paragraph about how decisions are made using the evidence available at the time, and Rich can introduce new evidence at any time, we should.