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    Default Re: Stormcloaks Or Empire (One Of The Three Certainties Of Life)

    Quote Originally Posted by Batcathat View Post
    That's certainly one possible interpretation, but so is "what the Dominion could scrape together would have beaten what the Empire could scrape together" or "neither side would've won decisively and it would've turned into a drawn-out meat-grinder" or some other alternative. We don't know the numbers on either side and we don't know for sure who was the most ready to keep fighting (or "least unready" as the case might've been).
    We don't know the numbers sure, but we have some descriptions.

    The Dominion fielded two armies consisting of 'all available forces.'

    The Army in Hammerfell was crippled by the legions before they left Hammerfell and then driven across the desert taking heavy losses by the Alik'r.

    All this happened prior to the battle of Red Ring.

    We're given no real indication of where the Alik'r stood troops wise, but given they eventually won on their own without further imperial assistance it's reasonable to assume "Better than the Dominion."

    Then there's the battle of Red Ring, where the larger Cyrodiil invasion army was entrapped and entirely destroyed.

    The cost to the legions is said to be three legions of at least 8 wiped out entirely, and the remainder with heavy losses leaving the best at half strength.

    In the aftermath of Red Ring, the Empire sues for peace with the white gold concordat.

    Hammerfell rejects the concordat and after five years of fighting without imperial support pushes the Dominion out of Hammerfell.

    That doesn't indicate that the Dominion had the steam to actually put up a fight.

    It's also interesting but obviously non-specific that the Imperial losses at Red Ring and the Aldmeri losses in Hammerfell at the hands of the Alik'r are both described as 'Heavy' implying some level of equivalency in losses as part of their overall strength.
    Last edited by druid91; 2024-04-18 at 02:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarZero View Post
    I like the "hobo" in there.
    "Hey, you just got 10000gp! You going to buy a fully staffed mansion or something?"
    "Nah, I'll upgrade my +2 sword to a +3 sword and sleep in my cloak."

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    Note to self: Never get involved in an ethics thread again...Especially if I'm defending the empire.