Quote Originally Posted by Infernally Clay View Post
Do you really want to turn this into "folks pointing fingers at other folks"? 'cause that's just going to turn things hostile. The whole point of referencing trends vaguely is to not name names so we can continue to discuss this topic nicely.

If you wish to argue that it has never been implied or suggested that the Jedi Council did nothing wrong and that you yourself acknowledge the Jedi Council did in fact make mistakes, it would be easy enough for you to prove it by simply agreeing with at least some of the things that has been said regarding their culpability.

As Mechalich has pointed out, there have been many valid examples of members such as myself pointing out instances where the Jedi Council made the wrong choice or could have made a better one, yet some members will always argue they made the best choice they could and it's all Palpatine's fault. Which is just wrong.

We're not saying every decision the Jedi Council made spanning the fifteen years of the prequel trilogy was wrong because that would be absurd, but the movies and supporting material aren't exactly subtle about the fact the Jedi Order's biggest problem was its inability to adapt. It was so set in its ways, so assured it could weather any storm, that it just assumed everyone had to play by its rules.

That's called arrogance, which is a flaw some people are very resistant to attribute to the Jedi even though Yoda himself pointed out it was a flaw becoming more and more common among Jedi.
Someone can believe that the Council made mistakes while not agreeing with the idea that a particular action was a mistake. But also, if you want to reference a trend, at some point, you need to be willing to demonstrate that trend actually exists. Just because you say there are people who have such and such position doesn't make it true.