Quote Originally Posted by brian 333 View Post
The exact same arguments made for dismissing the idea of a journey to Xykon's Astral Fortress at this time would apply to a proposed trip to Firmament then
No, they wouldn't. Nobody knew what was or wasn't at Firmament at the time. Everybody does know what is (innumerable lethal traps, safeguards, protections, and alarms) and is not (the phylactery) at the astral fortress. Ergo, unlike with Firmament, we can definitively, absolutely state that there is nothing of any narrative value at the astral fortress, which could not be said of Firmament.

That aside, Firmament had connection to at least one of the heroes, while the astral fortress has none whatsoever. It has connection to a single character, Xykon, who had zero reason to ever go back there, since part of the reason for putting it on an infinite, featureless plane is the unbelievable difficulty to actually find the damned thing (and, coincidentally, we know of at least one other functionally identical place - the graveyard of the worlds - which has the same benefits to not being found by people), and since it's entire purpose is to be some place secret and safe where he can go to regenerate after having his body destroyed.

You can only make the same arguments if you choose to disregard everything we know, but then anyone responding to those arguments is under no such obligation. This is nothing at all similar to Firmament other than they both exist.