Erfworld 78, Page 72

[Girl Wonder]

Please do.
Show her being cruel in any way not related to the event commonly refered to as 'torture'.
Show her being abusive that is again not related to the 'torture'.
Show her manipulating someone when it does not in some way benefit someone other than herself.

Do you see how you have to qualify and couch your argument, though? 'Show me how she's cruel...um... outside of the scene where she tortures someone.' 'Show me how she's abusive... um... aside from the torture.' 'Show me how she's manipulative... um... in a way that does not benefit someone else.'

My response? No, I don't need to to defend my statements with those caveats, just as I would not need to respond to the statement. 'You say E=MC squared, Miss Einstein. But show me how this is true without invoking the laws of physics.' Putting such caveats on the required proof, to me, shows the essential weakness of your argument, that it cannot stand without the caveats. "Show me that Wanda is cruel without referencing her cruelty?" Sorry, I don't care to play into that rhetorical trap.