Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck_II View Post
To be fair, grapple took longer for a Player to use in 3.5 compared to Pathfinder (granted it is harder for the character to use in pathfinder compared to 3.5).
So 2 steps forward and 1 back.
In my view, more like 1 step forward, 2 steps back. I (once I put in a little time to learn the rule) don't find it all that time consuming in 3.5. If it is now used so little because the chance of failure is greater, then I guess you could argue that by never using it, it is then quicker to use (0 seconds of time will be less than any portion of a second of time).