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2009-01-09, 08:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Erfworld #137 - The Discussion Thread
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2009-01-09, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld #137 - The Discussion Thread
Parson seems very stressed/angry.
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2009-01-09, 10:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Frankly, Parson's plans have been more or less flawless, they only failed due to Ansom's incredible luck and Charlie's god-like intervention.
Edit: Also, love the STHU sound effect when Parson slams his fist on the table. Shouldn't it be STBU?Last edited by Knight13; 2009-01-09 at 10:43 PM.
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2009-01-09, 10:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, the perfect Warlord is all about knowing your imperfections and playing around them. Parson was worth every Shmucker. Now let's see this final stand.
"They may boop our lives, but they'll never boop our freedom!"Last edited by DigoDragon; 2009-01-09 at 10:45 PM.
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2009-01-09, 10:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld #137 - The Discussion Thread
Nice tiny detail in panel 2, does "STHU" stand for "Shut the Hell Up"?
And parson would make a good boss, if he had any job he'd be willing to lord over. He yells at his guys for screwing up, then explains to them how they can help out, and his reasoning. Much better than Stanley.
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2009-01-09, 10:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld #137 - The Discussion Thread
Also, is it just me or is Parson looking more muscular? He's changed a LOT since the beginning of the comic, though that was only a few "days" ago.
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2009-01-09, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Two comic-updates is just too much stress for the forum...
Also, we learn a bit about real strategy
I wonder what shockmancy doesLast edited by hajo; 2009-01-09 at 10:52 PM.
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2009-01-09, 10:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-09, 10:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld #137 - The Discussion Thread
Wanda knew there was no such thing as unbeatable before she summoned him, she even told Stanley as much.
His plans haven't failed, a spell failed, thanks to Charlie. Ansom miraculously survived his recent charge thanks to powerful plot shields and Charlie. Wanda knew that too. Edit: Actually at any time prior to right now, the spell failure would have been it. Oh wait, there was the initial plan for the ambush of the fliers, but that was thwarted by Charlie being hired as well. Slack some cut him!
Wanda has a valid excuse thanks to the backlash, but her underlings?Last edited by Whispri; 2009-01-09 at 11:03 PM.
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2009-01-09, 11:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld #137 - The Discussion Thread
Notice how Wanda subtly deflected Parson's question about Duty -- there's nothing in the rules (at least as they were described to us) that would make whether it's hopeless or not relevant... she's simply not allowed to conceal important information like that. In other words, Parson pretty clearly caught her violating Duty, and she brought up his failures because she knew it would distract him from that decidedly uncomfortable question.
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2009-01-09, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Poor Parson. His plans are genius, yet when uncontrollable factors intervene, he gets stuck with all the blame.
I bet Stanley is gonna go off at him too, once he returns.Witness my glory and know that when my darkness fades, if you yet live, it is because an ally does not.
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2009-01-09, 11:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-09, 11:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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This was my original definition of what Parson should be, perfection is not absolute winner every engagement. He must have a terrible win-loss score with all his actions. However he can care less about the little fights as long as it sets him up to win when it matters most, (or have we already forgotten the tunnels so quickly Wanda?) and that is when he is able to press the advantage Parson's way.
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2009-01-09, 11:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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I lol'd at the comic. Orgasmed at the dual update.
At any rate, it's Wanda that feels hopeless. Apart from her suicidal behavior (Yes, I still think she was trying to get Ansom to croak her), it even says in her character bio thingamajjiger that feeling hope is not one of her fortes.
EDIT: Looks like RCC did take the courtyard (no thanks to Ansom). It even sorta looks like Duke Nozzle and the other RCC warlords are still bickering while all the soldiers are patting themselves on the back.
On the other hand, where at the elves? Those poor, poor eager elves.Last edited by Altima; 2009-01-09 at 11:22 PM.
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2009-01-09, 11:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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"... unwilling to take the garrison" looks like a clue - with some foolamany, they might be able to scare the invaders off.
GK is built on top of a vulcano, so how about a simulated eruption ?-HaJo
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2009-01-09, 11:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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'Unwilling' usually refers to making the other side just crap out due to low morality. Such as making it the only way the RCC would win would be by choking GK's rivers with their dead. Besides, it can't be that powerful, or Wanda would've mentioned something about it.
If anything, it'll be a combination of spells, most likely.
Of course, odds are, Jack does come back next time...with a flight of dwagons.
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2009-01-09, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Is it just me, or does Wanda seem... submissive in the last row?
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2009-01-09, 11:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Why one hour until the end of the world? Does Parson believe Ansom will attack the garrison this turn, without Archon support?
Oh it is the eyeball one.
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2009-01-09, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-09, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-09, 11:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Parson: The Anti-Ender.
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2009-01-09, 11:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Am I crazy, or does panel 4 seem really familiar? Like a scene from a movie, or something.
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2009-01-09, 11:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-10, 12:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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And don't forget that he didn't know about Charlie's existence prior to the first SNAFU.
It's a beautifully written monologue: I can almost hear him saying it.
Exactly. It's like "losing" the dwagon attacks on the RCC column: the important thing is to reduce his ability to take take GK.Last edited by DevilDan; 2009-01-10 at 12:26 AM.
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2009-01-10, 12:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld #137 - The Discussion Thread
Shouldn't that "crap" in panel 6 be a "boop"?
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2009-01-10, 12:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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I hope the scrolls aren't game-changing in and of themselves...that would feel a bit like a...well, I won't say it. Perhaps he can find something in there to hold off Ansom this round, and Stanley returning next round with Jack and the remaining dwagons will give them a fighting chance.
I wonder if
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it would be possible for a veiled dwagon stack to sneak-attack Ansom before the Archons can react, and maybe finally get the 'pliers for good this time? Wanda attuned to the 'pliers leading the remaining uncroaked still seems to me a necessary (if not sufficient) condition for Parson to win this against what are still very stiff odds.
Oh it is the eyeball one.
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2009-01-10, 12:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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I was so happy when I saw that both Erf and OoTS had updated.
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2009-01-10, 12:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hmm-- what now? Wanda has Duty to Stanley, but not, apparently, to GK. She took the initiative to suggest the summoning spell to Stanley, but now she won't go beyond orders to offer Parson any options. She fought Ansom with enthusiasm, but is fatalisticaly expecting the city to fall.
My guess: Wanda isn't an official GK unit; if it goes down, she won't be affected. And yet she's bound to Stanley somehow. That inclines me towards the rescue idea. Wanda swore some sort of personal allegiance to Stanley, that kept her from dying with Faq. Now, she figures if GK falls, she'll just go join him in his new barbarian career.NOGENERATION Aleph(0): Copy this into your sig and add or subtract 1 whenever you feel like it. This is a pointless experiment.
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2009-01-10, 12:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nope. Crap is an allowable word.
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2009-01-10, 12:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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You know what you call a perfect plan, with no surprises, and you win with no losses? A simulation. Get booping real, Wanda.
"Conversion, division, and attrition." 'Conversion' is Croakamancy, that's easy. Or possibly the enemy deserting and allying with them? 'Division' is Parson playing more mind games, woohoo! Also, possibly making them split up into separate zones. And once he gets some booping COOPERATION, he can begin to use his resources to their fullest, and start working on that 'Attrition.'Last edited by BarGamer; 2009-01-10 at 12:56 AM.