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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkar=awsome View Post
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    Too much copy-paste , no expresion change, used Belkar's name in the title...

    You need practice, and a better art program, and a scriptwriter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayar View Post
    Too much copy-paste , no expresion change.

    You need practice, and a better art program, and a scriptwriter.
    So you liked it, then?

    (Seriously, find me a Neutrals comic that doesn't use copy-paste, and I'll show you fan art.)

    The only things IN a comic are the
    1. artwork
    2. dialouge

    So you don't like the artwork (you want me to use a new art program) and you don't like the dialouge, (you want me to get a scriptwriter) you don't like the comic.
    I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkar=awsome View Post
    So you don't like the artwork (you want me to use a new art program) and you don't like the dialouge, (you want me to get a scriptwriter) you don't like the comic.
    I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it?
    I think that he was being a bit blunt with his feedback, but he does have a point. The comic is okay so far, but with a few improvements in the script, and an art update, this comic could be a lot better. I like the premise of this comic, but get rid of the OotS ripoffs and upgrade your art, and with time you will have an excellent comic on your hands. We can give you some advice as to how to improve your comic, but the greatest and most influential changes will come with time and practice. That being said, good luck, and I hope to see this comic continue for a good while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkar=awsome View Post
    I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it?
    He was trying to give you constructive criticism. :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    He was trying to give you constructive criticism. :3
    Only without all the...constructive stuff.

    I seriously thought the comic is okay. Okay script (good script writing comes with practise. It'll improve in time), and I actually think the artwork, while maybe not the best or most expressive, is quite charming.

    I don't mean you shouldn't improve it, but it doesn't suck because the art isn't the best it could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_Q View Post
    Only without all the...constructive stuff.

    I seriously thought the comic is okay. Okay script (good script writing comes with practise. It'll improve in time), and I actually think the artwork, while maybe not the best or most expressive, is quite charming.

    I don't mean you shouldn't improve it, but it doesn't suck because the art isn't the best it could be.
    Thanks.

    I'm still very new at this, so I hope I'll get better.

    I've been in an...interesting...mood lately (okay, bluntly, I've been a grouchy, tired hole all week) so my posts might be a bit harsh.

    I'll try to get some sleep tonight and make another comic soon (hopeful a better one).

    Ciao,
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    Default Re: The Neutrals: Comic 13 is up!

    New comic today

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    I'm in a better mood. (thank god.)

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    PS: Oh, yeah! Almost forgot. I'm trying a new format today. It loads faster but it looks different.

    Like/Dislike? Why?
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    Default Re: The Neutrals: Comic 14 is up!

    ....Weird.

    It took me a while to realize it was a news anchor without any news subtitles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkar=awsome View Post
    So you liked it, then?

    (Seriously, find me a Neutrals comic that doesn't use copy-paste, and I'll show you fan art.)

    The only things IN a comic are the
    1. artwork
    2. dialouge

    So you don't like the artwork (you want me to use a new art program) and you don't like the dialouge, (you want me to get a scriptwriter) you don't like the comic.
    I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it?
    I didnt said that I dont like the comic or that it sucks. Just that you need practice (the guy that starts crying...put some pauldrons on his shoulders so it wont look awkwardly blockish, that sort of stuff improves a comic). As for the dialogue, that comes with time, but with another dude to read it before it is inserted in a comic, he can give you extra options...
    I didnt intend to sound rude, but i guess that my last post was poorly worded.

    @Salty: yeah, blunt. Probably because i only have a cell phone for internet, for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayar View Post
    I didnt said that I dont like the comic or that it sucks. Just that you need practice (the guy that starts crying...put some pauldrons on his shoulders so it wont look awkwardly blockish, that sort of stuff improves a comic). As for the dialogue, that comes with time, but with another dude to read it before it is inserted in a comic, he can give you extra options...
    I didnt intend to sound rude, but i guess that my last post was poorly worded.

    @Salty: yeah, blunt. Probably because i only have a cell phone for internet, for now.
    [sincerity]Well then, I'm very sorry I overreacted to your comment due to lack of sleep and a bad mood. [/sincerity]

    In other news, I'm almost done with a new comic. I'll try to have someone look over it this time.
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    Default Re: The Neutrals: Comic 14 is up!

    New comic:
    (Sorry, it's a bit short.)

    #015: Let's just hope he doesn't try to hold her hand...
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    Default Re: The Neutrals: Comic 15 is now up!

    New comic! (Whew! I am on a roll!)

    Comic #016: A very appropriate song choice
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    EDIT: Sorry for the triple post...I didn't realize nobody was posting anything.
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    Default Re: The Neutrals: Billy Idol, a 1/2 Halfling 1/2 Kobald, and pitd-oh my!

    Ah. Very good character development. Backstories are always good for that.
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    Default Re: The Neutrals: Where bad MS Paint art meets overcomplicated plots!

    Okay, I've decided that I'm not going to update randomly anymore. For now, I'm going to update once a week, every Monday. Once I build up a nice buffer, I might update more frequently.

    (Oh, and I'm keeping the new format.)

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    I just think I should tell you, if you plan on changing the comic description every so often, you might want to make other plans. The title and comic description become permanent after a number of days, so you should settle on whatever title you'll be happy with keeping forever.

    Just in case you didn't know that.
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    I have a new comic and some great news (for the nonexistant people that read my comic.)

    Comic:

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    I've downloaded Inkscape!

    I redid the first comic in Inkscape:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkar=awsome View Post
    I have a new comic and some great news (for the nonexistant people that read my comic.)
    How dare you doubt my existence!

    Comic:

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    Wow! The gray outfit! So much more beautiful then the black outfit!

    News:

    I've downloaded Inkscape!

    I redid the first comic in Inkscape:
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    Wow. Massive improvement in the the art, there.

    Although I don't recommend you redo all the old comics before you do any new ones. I would recommend gradually redoing them, but focusing on new comics so we can all still read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_Q View Post
    Wow. Massive improvement in the the art, there.

    Although I don't recommend you redo all the old comics before you do any new ones. I would recommend gradually redoing them, but focusing on new comics so we can all still read.
    Yeah. I'm going to still make one new comic a week, but they'll be in Inkscape and I'll also put up the Inkscape version of an old comic.

    For example: next Monday, I'll put up Comic 18 (in Inkscape) and Comic 2 (in Inkscape).

    I think that seems like a reasonable goal.

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    You might want to work on the text in inkscape, it gets a little small in the redo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickywiggy View Post
    You might want to work on the text in inkscape, it gets a little small in the redo
    I'll take that into consideration.
    Also, only 6 different people have posted on this page:
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    Bayar,
    The_Q,
    Salty,
    Nameless,
    and you.
    An entire page full of only 6 people...and three of them only posted once...weird.

    Well, at least people are posting! (It'd be a real bummer if nobody even noticed it existed)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkar=awsome View Post
    Well, at least people are posting! (It'd be a real bummer if nobody even noticed it existed)
    Yes, it's easy to forget that people are reading when they do not post.

    However, you must remember that you have 1,018 views. While those may not be individual people, I highly doubt that only 6 people and yourself can total up to this amount. You have more readers then you know who just don't feel like posting replies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_Q View Post
    Yes, it's easy to forget that people are reading when they do not post.

    However, you must remember that you have 1,018 views. While those may not be individual people, I highly doubt that only 6 people and yourself can total up to this amount. You have more readers then you know who just don't feel like posting replies.
    Thanks. Didn't think about that.

    Well, invisible readers, new comic and new inkscape redo comic tomorrow, so be on the lookout. Let's hope my internet doesn't crash and burn again like it has alarmingly been doing a lot recently.

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    I know I'm guilty of this. I only post when I think I have something to say, which never really seems to happen when reading webcomics. :P

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    I think this is okay. I'll keep (somewhat) track on it, and I think your art-upgrade is gooooooood.
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    I've added a new section to the first post, for those who would like a bit of extra distinguishing info on the characters.
    Go check it out.
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    New comics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkar=awsome View Post
    So you liked it, then?

    (Seriously, find me a Neutrals comic that doesn't use copy-paste, and I'll show you fan art.)

    The only things IN a comic are the
    1. artwork
    2. dialouge

    So you don't like the artwork (you want me to use a new art program) and you don't like the dialouge, (you want me to get a scriptwriter) you don't like the comic.
    I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it?
    you are over simplifying it. There's also plot (or lack thereof), humour and storytelling. And these are just a few examples because my brain is working on emergency generators right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threeshades View Post
    you are over simplifying it. There's also plot (or lack thereof), humour and storytelling. And these are just a few examples because my brain is working on emergency generators right now.


    I know now that I was overreacting. I was very tired and grumpy and ticked off, even though that's really no excuse. I'd like to make a formal appology to all that were offended by my harsh comments, and direct your attention instead to my new comic.

    Now can we please all just forget about it, maybe? That'd be nice. Thanks.

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    Well it is hard for someone to be criticl of your work. And about the comments, you ahd none on your own sight because you commented yourself upon that on those old forums. Just know that you always ahve one person who will check every monday. It does keep getting better.

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    Ok, change of plans.

    Inkscape'd comics will be put up whenever I finish with them.

    New comics will be up on Mondays and Fridays, unless something comes up.

    My birthday is next Monday, so expect a comic on Tuesday instead.

    Thanks!

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