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    Check again.


    That square is a mixture of beach and water. At most, you're going to land in 5 feet of water. Even if it was 10 feet, which is isn't, 10 feet of water does not break a 200-foot fall. Check the falling rules.
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    That square is a mixture of beach and water. At most, you're going to land in 5 feet of water. Even if it was 10 feet, which is isn't,
    No, the map specifies that the water is 10 feet deep. Not 10 feet deep in the centre and 5 feet deep near the shore. Think of the shore as a vertical wall, not unlike a swimming pool.

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    10 feet of water does not break a 200-foot fall. Check the falling rules.
    I said it breaks her fall, not that it breaks her fall *completely*
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    No, the map specifies that the water is 10 feet deep. Not 10 feet deep in the centre and 5 feet deep near the shore. Think of the shore as a vertical wall, not unlike a swimming pool.
    *shrug* If you insist. I'll give you fair warning that it won't work to your advantage, though.
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    New falling damage: (18d6)[66]

    Alita is now at the bottom of the pool of water. Since you haven't ended your turn yet, what else do you do next?

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    End turn.

    Do you want me to do each round separately and wait for your reaction after each one, or shall I do them together?
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    Just do them together to save time. Alita may or may not decide to interrupt you in the middle.
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    Okay, round 1, descend and cast Web next to Alita. Centred underwater, at the intersection of J5 and K6.

    The webs fill the 10-foot deep river from top to bottom, criss-crossing the swimming pool walls and covering Alita and all the squares next to her. Alita's entangled automatically (duplicates previous effect, see above) and needs a Reflex save to avoid also being immobilised, which I assume she fails, though you can make one if you really want.

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    Reep also hits me up with a Heroism.
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    Go on.......
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    Round 2, Descend to ground level, out of your LoS.

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    Round 3, do something you can't see. Make a Spot check, though, if you're in a position to look around.

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    Creep up to J8 and look down into the water. Ready action to evade if Alita comes up to attack again. Hide: (1d20+3)[10]. Reep readies his ray for the word.

    The Tanglefoot Bag wears off, but your entangled condition does not, as the Web's still got you.
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    If Alita casts from wands underwater, are you able to detect it? Because I would reason that the water absorbs sound, and you are also out of line of sight.
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    Do you have some way of being able to speak underwater, and are you immune to Webs? And I'm observing you, so I can see what you're doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saph View Post
    Do you have some way of being able to speak underwater, and are you immune to Webs? And I'm observing you, so I can see what you're doing.
    Line of sight cuts both ways. If you are out of her line of sight, she is out of yours. I mean, didn't you move to ground level out of LoS during the 2nd round?

    As for speaking underwater, remeber that Alita is a living construct. She doesn't need to breath, so her vocal systems could just as easily function below and above water (like a waterproof speaker).
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    *sigh* I asked you to make a Spot check, remember? I'm right above you, watching you from hiding.

    And again, do you have some sort of immunity to Webs? If not, you're still entangled and so at Dex 0.
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    *sigh* I asked you to make a Spot check, remember? I'm right above you, watching you from hiding.
    (1d20-2)[0]

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    And again, do you have some sort of immunity to Webs? If not, you're still entangled and so at Dex 0.
    Then I suppose I have to wait for the ray of clumsiness to wear off.
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    A voice speaks into Alita's mind. Hey! So, I guess we got interrupted up there. The good news is that I'm a telepath, so I can talk to you even while you're underwater. Isn't that great?
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    In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not actually trying to kill you. I'm not sure if you can be killed, to be honest. Though I can't help thinking that might be more of a curse than a blessing in your particular case . . .

    Detect Magic, concentrate for 3 rounds unless something happens. Tell me what I see.
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    Well, let me see, make a caster level check against DC 38.
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    You're not using that Nondetection interpretation again, are you? Can't make a DC 38 check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saph View Post
    You're not using that Nondetection interpretation again, are you?
    Yes I am. Although the non-detection in this case only applies to her personal buffs, not her equipment. For that, I went with Magic Aura.

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    Can't make a DC 38 check.
    You sense no magic around Alita at all, neither on her being on her equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saph View Post
    In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not actually trying to kill you. I'm not sure if you can be killed, to be honest. Though I can't help thinking that might be more of a curse than a blessing in your particular case . . .
    "If you want to kill me, then go ahead and do it. I have no reason to live, and no fear of death." Somewhere deep below Alita's mind, you detect a proto-sentience of some sort. Like the mechanical mind of a warforged, only much more primitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeminiZero View Post
    Yes I am. Although the non-detection in this case only applies to her personal buffs, not her equipment. For that, I went with Magic Aura.
    I still don't think that works, by the way, but I can't exactly make a DM ruling on a game I'm playing in.

    I'll go with your interpretation here, because seeing no magic auras tells me everything I wanted to know anyway. Any normal PC of this level should be lit up like a Christmas tree.
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    Which part of 'not trying to kill you' did you miss the first time? Honestly, do you think about everything in terms of killing and dying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saph View Post
    I'll go with your interpretation here, because seeing no magic auras tells me everything I wanted to know anyway. Any normal PC of this level should be lit up like a Christmas tree.
    Not necessarily. Like I previously mentioned, any rogue worth his salt can get an eternal wand of magic aura, 2 castings per day to cover 2 pieces of equipment. This will blind arcane sight from detecting them, and is a good measure for any HiPS build.
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    Which part of 'not trying to kill you' did you miss the first time? Honestly, do you think about everything in terms of killing and dying?
    "Of course not. There is evisceration, the rush of sweet brutal violence, murder, ARGGHHH!!!!" As Alita struggles with the voices in her head, you sense the proto-sentience trying to communicate with her and calm her down.
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    Not necessarily. Like I previously mentioned, any rogue worth his salt can get an eternal wand of magic aura, 2 castings per day to cover 2 pieces of equipment.
    CL 1 wand? How long's that going to last? And one area dispel will knock out every casting at once. Which I'm not going to do, by the way.
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    Well, I'm not interested in any of those things. Sorry. You're just going to have to deal with facing an opponent who isn't keen on killing you.

    Could you give me a visual listing of Alita's equipment, please?
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    CL 1 wand? How long's that going to last? And one area dispel will knock out every casting at once. Which I'm not going to do, by the way.
    Magic Aura lasts 1 day/level. So 1 eternal wands can cover 2 pieces of equipment for the whole day. Also, for dispel to work, you must intentionally target that piece of equipment, which happens NOT to detect as magical, which is usually not the first thing that comes to mind. It requires either lots of metagaming, or a really smart opponent to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saph View Post
    Well, I'm not interested in any of those things. Sorry. You're just going to have to deal with facing an opponent who isn't keen on killing you.
    OOC: By the way, I am giving you a chance to find out a bit of her recent history with the proto-sentience. Alita isn't nearly sane enough to answer questions logically, but the Proto-Sentience there has managed to be unaffected by the Dungeon's subversive influence.
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    Actually, that's an interesting one. What happens if I use Telepathy to talk with the different bits of her mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saph View Post
    Could you give me a visual listing of Alita's equipment, please?
    Uh.. give me a while to put this together. I don't have the visual description of ANY of her gear.
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