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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki_Akuma View Post
    I don't think he really realises what a guard is for, and how he'd be trained in a setting where people flinging magic about is a daily occurrence.
    If I feel an invasive, hostile force inside my head at the time a stranger shows up, I might very well be paranoid and cautious around him even if I don't KNOW it's him. I mean...it seems pretty reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyndmyr View Post
    If I feel an invasive, hostile force inside my head at the time a stranger shows up, I might very well be paranoid and cautious around him even if I don't KNOW it's him. I mean...it seems pretty reasonable.
    Then there's the fact that guards are trained to be paranoid and cautious around anyone they don't recognise...
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    Right. They might not actually axe you right there unless other factors are in play(ie, if you were dumb enough to cast it non-stilled/silent, from where they can see you), but their attitude is going to be pretty darned bad.

    I would have no problem dropping them a step lower on the diplomacy table to represent that.

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    Default Re: If Charm Person fails...

    To remedy these problems, consider the spell Price of Loyalty, from Player's Guide to Eberron. It's 2nd-level, touch range, and requires a focus, but there are no signs of magic. No components. Not even a hostile force if they succeed on a will save. Same effect and duration as Charm Person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foryn Gilnith View Post
    To remedy these problems, consider the spell Price of Loyalty, from Player's Guide to Eberron. It's 2nd-level, touch range, and requires a focus, but there are no signs of magic. No components. Not even a hostile force if they succeed on a will save. Same effect and duration as Charm Person.
    ah, the "better spell TM".
    If your spell has a drawback, just find a better spell that does the exact same thing without said drawback.
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