Results 751 to 780 of 1494
-
2010-03-25, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Location
- The Southern Wildlands
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
Not all hollows are human souls. Some are animal souls.
In fact, I bet most hollows are animal souls.
And another option is allowing him to breath in reishi from hueco mundo to sustain his hunger like small hollows do. Not a particularly strong option, however.
-
2010-03-25, 06:37 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2006
- Location
- HALO and HALO timeskip
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
Yes I understand and accept that if he is found out by the Soul Society that he will be simply killed. And I don't intend for him to actually eat any spiritual being for a long time. And I like both your suggestions. I think that he will have a choice, but probably fall to temptation every now and then. And yes, Hollows give more power than human souls. The way I was thinking of having it work is that the closer he becomes to his Hollow side, AKA the more abilities he unlocks, the stronger the hunger gets. Also when it first manifests, which will be right after he gets attacked/awakened. he will only eat more human food than he used to. He will manage to keep his unnatural hunger in check until at least after he gains at least one more power.
Oh, and while he is in the Seretai, and Hueco Mundo, yes, he will be able to breath in the ambient reishi.Last edited by XtheYeti; 2010-03-25 at 06:39 PM.
-
2010-03-25, 06:55 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2008
- Location
- Midwest, USA
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
Draken raises excellent points.
Mind, I wasn't trying to dissuade you. I was merely trying to bring up potentially relevant points, as well as help give more complexity to the choices of the situation.
I also likely made the Shinigami sound kill-happy, which was also not my intention. But the fact remains that they will likely go the "if it Looks like a Hollow, feels like a Hollow, and eats souls like a Hollow, it must be a Hollow" route (which doesn't sound terribly far off of the mark). It's a simple matter of preserving and purifying souls, rather than letting them get eaten and integrated into an ever-more-powerful Hollow being. Far as they'd be concerned, if Nicks' eating souls, he's "fallen off the wagon".
-
2010-03-25, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2008
- Location
- Midwest, USA
- Gender
-
2010-03-25, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2006
- Location
- HALO and HALO timeskip
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
No, no I Agree completly. I expect the Shinigami to get pissed and try to kill Nick if they find out about him eating Souls, and Hollows. Which I think would be a great way to create some plots, and character development. Think of a character who tries to work with the Seretai, but lives in constant fear that they will be discovered by them. It could be awesome, and a whole bunch of fun things could come from it.
-
2010-03-25, 07:05 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
- Location
- Midwest U.S.
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
I'd argue that the 11th would have quite a few fighters that make use of skill, and personally, the idea of '11th, but smarter' kinda irks me. Still, the tactical specialists idea is decent, so I'd personally recommend a slight shift in the idea to shinigami who are trained to be squad leaders, with a minor emphasis on swordsmanship.
Thus, while decent combatants, they would easily get squashed in any straight-up fight against an equivalent member of the 11th, thus maintaining the utility of the pure warrior division.My Unitarian Jihad name is Brother Rail Gun of Sweet Reason. Get yours!
Thanks to Cealocanth and PersonalSavior for my avatars!Spoiler
-
2010-03-25, 07:07 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2008
- Location
- Nexus
- Gender
-
2010-03-25, 07:11 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2008
- Location
- Midwest, USA
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
These guys use kido as well as just skill. Notice how their captain, while an excellent swordsman, also has a fair number of powerful kido he can use.
I think that someone using a combination of strategy, sword skill, and kido (which any 8th Divisioner should strive for) would at least break even.
Yes, if you strip away kido, tactics, and such, the 11th will win. But that's frankly unfair. It's taking away a key component of their basic fighting method. If there's someone in 8th who isn't skilled at kido, they'll focus on swordplay and tactics. Which gives them, again, an even shot.
I'd really rather not get into an argument of "X Division can totally beat up Y Division" over what's essentially a throwaway fluff line.
-
2010-03-25, 07:16 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
- Location
- Midwest U.S.
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
But see, that's all 11th Division has. The only thing they're good for is beating people up. Consequently, they need to be very good at it.
If the 8th is better leaders than them, then the 8th needs to give something up in order to have that advantage, else the Divisions are not balanced. In your example wherein the 8th focuses on swordplay and tactics, if he's to be an effective leader, then that would presumably include spending time learning group tactics and effective communication strategies. That's time that the 11th Divisioner spends on personal tactics and swordplay. Consequently, he'll still wreck the guy.
If they're instead the 'weaker, smarter 11th Division,' rather than explicitly trained as leaders, I'd just like to know what the point is in having them be a separate Division at all, rather than some smart guys in 11th.My Unitarian Jihad name is Brother Rail Gun of Sweet Reason. Get yours!
Thanks to Cealocanth and PersonalSavior for my avatars!Spoiler
-
2010-03-25, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2007
- Location
- Void between realities
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
-
2010-03-25, 07:33 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2008
- Location
- Midwest, USA
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
My whole point is that while 11th may be great at physical fighting, they're only great at physical fighting.
Whereas 8th is pretty good at physical fighting, pretty good at kido, and good-great at tactics. Which, in my mind, means they have a decently even shot of winning against an 11th Division person. What next, do we say that the Kido Corps can't beat them with kido?
I mean, couldn't we really just say the 2nd is a "weaker, sneakier 11th"? Couldn't most divisions be rolled up into 11th and KC, or some such?
I'm not trying to infringe. I'm just saying these guys can't just be the people standing at planning tables. If they're going out into the field int teams of 4-6 people, it's required that, at some point, they'll fight. It's the nature of things. So them being at least "pretty good" at a fight, while also having tactics, should, in my mind, be a given.
-
2010-03-25, 07:42 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Sep 2009
- Location
- Defying Laws of Physics
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
So...about the 2nd Division Captain candidate I posted a little while ago...some of you guys didn't really agree with his powers...I'd still like to post him...any way that I can downscale/edit his powers to make them seem more reasonable? I'm not really sure what you're looking for...
NarutoITP Characters
Generals Morgan
BleachITP Reborn Characters
Full Metal Madness(ITP) All images by Terry576
GB week Alilah avvie by Keveak!
-
2010-03-25, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
- Location
- Midwest U.S.
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
That's why I suggested that they still be competent. They should just be a couple of steps down from 11th in overall fighting ability, not have an even shot at beating an equally-ranked 11th member in combat. If they have a chance to prepare the battlefield beforehand, or if each is leading a unit, it's another story.
And frankly, yes, I do expect the Kido Corps to generally have unfavorable odds against an equally-ranked member of 11th as well, because, again, they have functionality outside of combat, with their ceremonial capacity (e.g. the ability to seal enemies away, or, out of combat, develop powerful solutions to various problems). Kido is slower than a sword to the throat.
And the other Divisions couldn't be rolled into 11th because they have different functionality. 2nd is for sneaking, 4th is for healing, 3rd is for interring, 1st is for paperworking, 5th is for butterflying, 6th is for reinforcing, 8th is for planning, 10th is for policing, 12th is for researching, 13th is for patrolling. But 11th? 11th is for fighting. Divisions need to be the best at their specialties. Hence, 11th needs to be better than any other division at fighting. Otherwise, there's little reason to have the 11th at all.
This should not be taken as a rule for in-game play, necessarily. There might be standouts at any given point (PCs are the unusual ones, after all). Nonetheless, if you take a random member of another division and an equally-ranked 11th Divisioner and plunk them down in an arena, the vast majority of the time, the 11th Division member should have rather favorable odds.My Unitarian Jihad name is Brother Rail Gun of Sweet Reason. Get yours!
Thanks to Cealocanth and PersonalSavior for my avatars!Spoiler
-
2010-03-25, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2008
- Location
- Midwest, USA
- Gender
-
2010-03-25, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Sep 2009
- Location
- Defying Laws of Physics
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
.
..
...
....
.....Did anyone hear me?NarutoITP Characters
Generals Morgan
BleachITP Reborn Characters
Full Metal Madness(ITP) All images by Terry576
GB week Alilah avvie by Keveak!
-
2010-03-25, 07:54 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2008
- Location
- Nexus
- Gender
-
2010-03-25, 07:54 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
- Location
- Midwest U.S.
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
My Unitarian Jihad name is Brother Rail Gun of Sweet Reason. Get yours!
Thanks to Cealocanth and PersonalSavior for my avatars!Spoiler
-
2010-03-25, 07:55 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Sep 2009
- Location
- Defying Laws of Physics
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
Okay...I'm just looking for some ways that I can improve on his powers to make them more realistic/appropriate. That's all. It's also a chance to bring out the EvilThing lying dormant inside of your squishy BrainThing!
NarutoITP Characters
Generals Morgan
BleachITP Reborn Characters
Full Metal Madness(ITP) All images by Terry576
GB week Alilah avvie by Keveak!
-
2010-03-25, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2008
- Location
- Midwest, USA
- Gender
-
2010-03-25, 08:21 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
- Location
- Midwest U.S.
My Unitarian Jihad name is Brother Rail Gun of Sweet Reason. Get yours!
Thanks to Cealocanth and PersonalSavior for my avatars!Spoiler
-
2010-03-25, 08:46 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2006
- Location
- HALO and HALO timeskip
-
2010-03-25, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Location
- The Southern Wildlands
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
You can't defeat twelveth division. Because Kazuo will make a pocket nuclear reactor. In a cave. With a box of scraps. And use it to power the greatest weapon of all. And it shall defeat you.
-
2010-03-25, 09:38 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
- Location
- Midwest U.S.
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
Sorry, but that's second-best weapon. The first just might remove his eyepatch if Kazuo bothers him too much.
Edit: Seems like a good character, XtheYeti. Don't really have much more to add.Last edited by Sucrose; 2010-03-25 at 09:40 PM.
My Unitarian Jihad name is Brother Rail Gun of Sweet Reason. Get yours!
Thanks to Cealocanth and PersonalSavior for my avatars!Spoiler
-
2010-03-25, 09:47 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2006
- Location
- Canada
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
Well I was thinking I could easily see Genoveva toying with him by putting on a hot and cold routine, sometimes insulting him and acting nice at others. There could be a silly moment where she kisses him just to see his reaction which might cause him to become emotionally conflicted and extremely flustered. If Ruwa becomes one of her fraccion he might make recruiting her to his group a personal mission. Maybe he'd develop a bit of a masochistic tendency and start to like her abuse. Perhaps he'd vie for her praise and attention because the harder it is to get the more he desires it. He could always find a flower and start picking off petals one by one while muttering to himself.
Kazuo is Iron Man?Last edited by nothingclever; 2010-03-25 at 09:50 PM.
-
2010-03-25, 09:50 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2007
- Gender
-
2010-03-25, 09:55 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2008
- Location
- Midwest, USA
- Gender
-
2010-03-25, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
My Current Works
-
2010-03-25, 09:57 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2007
- Location
- Void between realities
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
"Hm?"
they really are quite common...
-
2010-03-25, 10:01 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Location
- The Southern Wildlands
- Gender
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
Well, nothing, he looks more like Doctor Octopus, shikai wise, but KD, berry and I have been using the Iron man joke for a while.
Also Zarah, yes. His name is Kazuo. Ryou Kazuo, 12th division officer (possibly captain).
-
2010-03-25, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Sep 2005
- Location
- ...
Re: BleachITP Reborn: Discussion & Setup
Warriors & Wuxia: A community world-building project focused on low-magic wuxia/kung-fu action using ToB.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."