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Thread: A Noble Death
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2011-01-02, 01:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-01-02, 01:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
Nicely done. It's kind of sad that people are surprised that a paladin was played like this. I mean--high charisma, Diplomacy class skill, good alignment--they should be well-liked just about wherever they go. Paladins aren't supposed to be Knight Templar types; in fact, that's the type to play if you want to play a blackguard. They're supposed to be decent people who care so much about others that they've dedicated their lives to protecting them, keeping order, and generally putting themselves in sticky situations so other people can stay out of them.
But this sort of heroics isn't restricted to paladins! You don't have to be a holy warrior to be the kind of person who's perfectly willing to die for your friends without angsting about it... (In some situations you just have to be a wizard with the Benign Transposition spell... I should know. And she survived both times. Wizards are tricky like that...)
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2011-01-02, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
True- the problem is, that some of the splatbooks, and some of the novels, tend not to portray them this way.
Plus, some rules are very subject to interpretation.
"Will not continue an association with someone who consistantly offends against their moral code" is sometimes taken as a licence for the paladin to say "conform or I'll leave".
"Punish those who harm or threaten the innocent" is sometimes taken to an extreme, with the paladin being extremely harsh toward the slightest infraction that can be interpreted that way.
And so on.
Paladins can be played as less judgemental and more easygoing than the stereotype, though. If the player stresses "altruistic, heroic, and kindly" and avoids excessive judgementalness- their paladin can be much easier to get along with.
I suppose it's possible to take it too far the other way- with a paladin not killing even when the situation warrants it- and trying to stop the other players from killing in these situations as well.
But "brutal, judgemental paladin" seems to be a more common problem style than "overpacifistic paladin".Last edited by hamishspence; 2011-01-02 at 01:50 PM.
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2011-01-02, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
Necromancy is [evil].
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2011-01-02, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
It's more "some necromancy spells have the [evil] tag"
In editions all the way up to 3.5, there were at least a few Necromancy spells that didn't have the [evil] tag- or text suggesting it was evil to cast the spell.Marut-2 Avatar by Serpentine
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2011-01-02, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
Recent homebrewed necromantic spells (PEACH):
- Hungry Mists (yay, ghost rat swarm!), Long Shadows of the Grave (watch those undead run), Caress of Infinite Pleasure (pain, pleasure, it's all necromancy)
- Deep Sleep (a good night's rest in one hour)
- Envivifying Ray (boost the living, harm the dead)
- Khefernatra's Gracious Wound Refusal ("No, no, really, it's too much. You keep it.")
- Sun Scarabs (glowing undead eating bugs)
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2011-01-02, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
Ah- I didn't spot it had been necroed-
because the post at the top of the page was dated to today.Marut-2 Avatar by Serpentine
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2011-10-23, 03:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
This deserves to be put into an OotS-style comic. Anyone up for it?
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2011-10-23, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-24, 10:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-25, 09:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
::chuckle:: Bookmark the thread if you like, but let's let this die, like my paladin has yet to do.
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2011-10-25, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
Do tell me when and how he actually meets/met his end. Colour me interested.
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2014-01-15, 02:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
It's probably been said already, (I really don't want to read through all three pages of comments), but you weren't robbed. The group as a whole was enriched. They were allowed to use ingenuiety to figure out a way to save a beloved party member. You should definetly take it well (and love the character all the more yourself) because of this. You don't hear of many D&D games where someone almost starts crying because of your character being in danger. You made a character that has effected real life people enough to ellicit that kind of response... and that's some pretty amazing roleplaying. Wow... I just looked at the date on this. Oops.
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2014-01-15, 03:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-01-15, 05:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
Its work is not yet done.
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2014-01-15, 01:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
This is a really great story. Wish more people would play Paladins like that.
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2014-02-11, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-11, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A Noble Death
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