Naruto Manga thread (Spoilers)

[VanBuren]

That's the attitude that causes rape.

Either that or a bunch of self-righteous "nice guys".

Believe me, I don't think we're arguing here.

[Drolyt]

Either that or a bunch of self-righteous "nice guys".

Believe me, I don't think we're arguing here.

Remember kids, sarcasm works perfectly well on the internet!

[VanBuren]

Remember kids, sarcasm works perfectly well on the internet!

Honestly, I thought the "remember girls" would have tipped my hand. Do I need flashing neon signs or something?

[Drolyt]

Honestly, I thought the "remember girls" would have tipped my hand. Do I need flashing neon signs or something?

Yes.
Neon Signs! I need ten characters!

[Zeful]

Honestly, I thought the "remember girls" would have tipped my hand. Do I need flashing neon signs or something?

It's the one thing I simply don't tolerate, doesn't matter the context or if someone's trying to be funny.

[VanBuren]

It's the one thing I simply don't tolerate, doesn't matter the context or if someone's trying to be funny.

Actually, context was very important in this case.

[0Megabyte]

It's the one thing I simply don't tolerate, doesn't matter the context or if someone's trying to be funny.

But in this case, not tolerating it doesn't make sense. It was sarcasm. It meant the exact opposite, and it was obvious that it was the exact opposite!

Don't sound like the old Mormons Orson Scott Card spoke of one time. When he was in college at BYU, he was part of a newsletter. They had an article about some Mormons not following things like their rules against alcohol or tobacco, and on the front had a picture of a man with a cigar. I may be botching it, but the point was, it wasn't being portrayed positively.

However, some of the older folks reacted in a hostile manner, because they were showing someone smoking, regardless of the fact that they were not, in any way, promoting it.

Don't be the kind of person to be blind to context.

Especially in this case. It's obvious to everyone that the guy was making a scathing criticism of that mindset, not promoting it.

[AgentofOdd]

The thing is, he is essentially reacting to enemy movements, and in the way that instantly tells Madara his ambush failed - it's good Madara himself is pretty poor strategist, or they would have been owned.

No one knows if Madara was even planning an ambush. Maybe, for example, he wanted to have the clones bypass the army, take out the hidden villages, and fortify their positions there. This could make the newly formed coalition splinter when the disparate groups focus on regaining their hometowns. Considering that the clones are hard to detect (otherwise the ninja's would've found them w/o the ambush squad's data), I think just bringing them to the surface might be the not the ideal tactic, but it's still a valid one.

Then, there's the reaction - charging at the enemy? They waste a lot of chakra getting into position that is awfully easy to guess. Anyone willing to exploit that wouldn't even need such ridiculous things as "ambush squads".

What do you mean by position? We don't know where the clones are going, and I don't believe we even know how the ninja army is spread out for that matter.

And, finally, he is behaving like a dog who saw a bone. The goal of this war is to get Madara, maybe Kabuto, and only them - going after easily replaceable clones only gives M. time to hide and weakens their own forces.

I think you'd want to get both Madara and his army. Not much point in killing the boss man if the clone army decimates your entire country. As long as Madara doesn't gain access to the 10-tails, I'd argue he's a less threat than the legions he's created.

[AtlanteanTroll]

As long as Madara doesn't gain access to the 10-tails, I'd argue he's a less threat than the legions he's created.

No point in even mentioning the 10 tails if he isn't going to get it.

[VanBuren]

No point in even mentioning the 10 tails if he isn't going to get it.

Uh... yeah there is, actually. He's trying to get it, which is enough. Even if he doesn't ultimately get the Ten-tailed beast, we know that this goal endangers Naruto's life. That's point enough.

[AtlanteanTroll]

Uh... yeah there is, actually. He's trying to get it, which is enough. Even if he doesn't ultimately get the Ten-tailed beast, we know that this goal endangers Naruto's life. That's point enough.

Pffft. Reasons for villains. Back in my dad, Lex Luthor wanted Superman dead for no reason at all. Why I outta'...!

Point well taken, but I'd be a bit surprised if Kishi didn't have Madara aquire it. Then again, that would be awkward for the plot. Bee would have to die (NO!) as would Naruto, and he'd need to be revived somehow.

[Prime32]

Pffft. Reasons for villains. Back in my dad, Lex Luthor wanted Superman dead for no reason at all. Why I outta'...!

Assuming you mean in your day, () Lex wanted to kill Superman for making him bald.

[TSGames]

Pffft. Reasons for villains. Back in my dad, Lex Luthor wanted Superman dead for no reason at all. Why I outta'...!

*nods*

Ah, yes.... villains without reasons. It ends hilariously! Burn for it! BURN FOR IT!

[AtlanteanTroll]

Assuming you mean in your day, () Lex wanted to kill Superman for making him bald.

Just because my dad is bald...

[Fjolnir]

Was your dad bald because a superhero saved his life from an explosion that he was responsible for? (your father was responsible, not the superhero)

It's almost as bad as Dr. Doom being annoyed at Reed Richards for pointing out his equations were wrong in college, and the fiery results of him forging onwards anyhow.
(though since his ridiculous experiment was a magic/science mix, it probably needed a complete lack of doubt in its abilities to work, for which Viktor can blame Reed for placing into him)

[TheEmerged]

RE: Lee/Sakura ship.

"Tell, me, Sakura. After obsessing over Sasuke, and being obsessed over by Naruto, are you at last ready to share a love?"

"Why? Why are you doing this now, after all these years of nothing?"

"Because love, like war, is not only about speed. It is also about perseverance* -- and timing."

[horngeek]

Was your dad bald because a superhero saved his life from an explosion that he was responsible for? (your father was responsible, not the superhero)

It's almost as bad as Dr. Doom being annoyed at Reed Richards for pointing out his equations were wrong in college, and the fiery results of him forging onwards anyhow.
(though since his ridiculous experiment was a magic/science mix, it probably needed a complete lack of doubt in its abilities to work, for which Viktor can blame Reed for placing into him)

RRRRRIIIICHARDS! ()

This is actually a good parallel: Lex and Doom were both egotistical jerks, and therefore, they couldn't POSSIBLY have been at fault for the accidents!

[VanBuren]

Kabuto is a terrible liar. A little too terrible, if you get my drift.

Hell if I know what that means, though.

[AgentofOdd]

So, new chapter is out.

1. Did the white Zetsu's all go "Do'h"?

2. What are these secrets of the Sage of the Six paths. And, why does he need Madara's help when he already has Nagato's body?

[Drolyt]

Good chapter. Glad to see Kabuto has something else up his sleeve. Only one question: do the Japanese have some sort of tradition of cleaning the house before new years? Both Naruto and the Gotei 13 were cleaning for some reason.

[AtlanteanTroll]

OK, so I just read Page 6. Did I, or did I not just see Granny Chiyo?


EDIT: Also, NO! Zabuza and Haku!! DONT DIE AGAIN!!!

[Drolyt]

OK, so I just read Page 6. Did I, or did I not just see Granny Chiyo?

Yes, yes you did.

[AgentofOdd]

Good chapter. Glad to see Kabuto has something else up his sleeve. Only one question: do the Japanese have some sort of tradition of cleaning the house before new years? Both Naruto and the Gotei 13 were cleaning for some reason.

Is this from a special Holiday chapter?

[Drolyt]

Is this from a special Holiday chapter?

The extra page at the end of this week's chapters. It also says something about Shonen Jump getting a new logo.

[Fjolnir]

I think that zabuza pleading for death is a nice touch...

[0Megabyte]

You know, the great thing about this manga is that I still don't know for sure who's going to be the "main villain" of the story. It's one of the unique things about it, really. Even though we still have the normal "new, greater villain" style thing, the potential villains have all been in play now long enough that it's hard to decide.

Madara is an obvious choice, but he's not at all for sure. Kabuto, though, is a great wildcard, and the two are "allies" in the way that the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. were allies during WW2. And I'm not at all certain Madara will win in the battle between the two. Next, of course, is Sasuke, always the underling of whichever bad guy is important at the moment. Granted, he doesn't have good leadership skills, with the way he threw away Hawk, but he's more likely the final battle. He reminds me a little of the protagonist's best friend from Suikoden 2 in that regard. Sure, the "bad guy" is someone else, but Jowy was the true climactic battle.

[KnightDisciple]

0Megabyte: That's a pretty good point.

On this issue: Okay, another subtle weakness of Impure Res: You have to sit down, motionless and vulnerable, to concentrate enough to take more direct control of stubborn minions. When you've got the numbers out there that he does, it makes it tough.

So, it's pretty expensive chakra-wise, can take serious work to dig up the necessary materials (literally!), and takes major concentration at times. Again, even if it doesn't require your right kidney and left nut, it's not perfect.

I do have to wonder what happens if some really major attack, like a souped-up Rasenshuriken, or an Amatseru, or something like that, hits one of the zombies. If you make the pieces small enough, do they stay gone?
Could someone outright disrupt the seals on them like a "jamming signal", potentially breaking the connection and effectively killing the zombie?
One wonders...


Randomly: Am I the only one who's not a big fan of Killer Bee having Samehada instead of his 7 small swords (like when he beat Sasuke like a punk...hehehe)? I liked that 7 sword style better, personally.

[VanBuren]

0Megabyte: That's a pretty good point.

On this issue: Okay, another subtle weakness of Impure Res: You have to sit down, motionless and vulnerable, to concentrate enough to take more direct control of stubborn minions. When you've got the numbers out there that he does, it makes it tough.

So, it's pretty expensive chakra-wise, can take serious work to dig up the necessary materials (literally!), and takes major concentration at times. Again, even if it doesn't require your right kidney and left nut, it's not perfect.

I do have to wonder what happens if some really major attack, like a souped-up Rasenshuriken, or an Amatseru, or something like that, hits one of the zombies. If you make the pieces small enough, do they stay gone?
Could someone outright disrupt the seals on them like a "jamming signal", potentially breaking the connection and effectively killing the zombie?
One wonders...


Randomly: Am I the only one who's not a big fan of Killer Bee having Samehada instead of his 7 small swords (like when he beat Sasuke like a punk...hehehe)? I liked that 7 sword style better, personally.

It was cooler, but Samehada can leech chakra off his opponents and give it back to him, which is a bit of a plus.

Granted, as a Jinchuriki, that's not as useful as it might be for someone else.

[KnightDisciple]

It was cooler, but Samehada can leech chakra off his opponents and give it back to him, which is a bit of a plus.

Granted, as a Jinchuriki, that's not as useful as it might be for someone else.

Yeah, there's that, but on the flip side, it's radically different from his previous style. Notice he's not really used it...though he hasn't had a chance to, I suppose. I'll reserve full judgment for when he uses it and Kisame's not around to mess things up.

But still, I miss the rapping buzz-saw action.

[Silverraptor]

I really hope Kabuto is lying about it having no side effects. Though currently, it seems as if it doesn't.