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Okay, point made.
I thought it'd be fairly cool to have them discover said behemoth in the bowels of a barely-functioning First Age manse; if that won't provide some awesome stunt-fodder for the fight, nothing will. Guess I'll hit up Oadenol's after this...
And don't worry, I won't be polluting this thread here with my game ideas for much longer; I'm likely to start a campaign journal thread for exactly that.
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Back to Alchemicals. There are a lot of references in Alchies to the Engine of Extinction-Autocthon's Neverborn incarnation. Is there any canon on it besides the very basic references in the book? Or is it really going to have to be homebrewed for any sort of campaign setting?
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Sounds more like an option, were Autobot to join his bros and sisses in battle (no idea why he would, but hey, Rule 0). I'm sure CoCD:Autobot will expound. We really don't have a whole lot of info on Alchies right now. If it's not in MoEP:Alchies, either the information isn't out yet or you should Rule 0 it. Alternatively, pick up some of the 1e books.
So yeah, you could homebrew it.... I don't know how that would work for like Abyssals, I guess he could make new Exaltations and bind their ghosts into Deathlords n ladies. He's clever enough to find a way. More smarts than clever, though. If you were to be wanting to make Abyssals for him... As far as Apostates, I would wager that either all Alchies would become them when he suffers fetich death, or that they could try even harder than they were to restore him to Primordial-hood. A beacon in the darkness, etc.
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I was really thinking all Alchies become Apostates, the Class background becomes meaningless (All humans are slaves.) and Abyssals might be able to get some Voidtech. Aside from that, haven't thought much about the Alchies/Abyssals, focusing more on what Autobot actually turns into.
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Which is why we use them. Also, because Autobot is easier and quicker to type than Autochthon....
What he turns into? Well, right now he's a big chunk of sleeping metal floating in Elsewhere.... so I would say in order for him to surrender he would have to come back to Creation, which would open up Alchie-Creation relations... And then the UCS would be like, hey, those Apostates dudes are kind of scary so they're Creatures of Darkness now, except he can't feel fear, or something. So then Autobot would have to surrender and ol' Sol would ceremonially kill the Core... and then he would become a big chunk of EVIL sleeping metal, except even more asleep than before. And he has the smarts to get a few deathlords and then begin Apostate/Abyssal creation and deployment... and then *campaign*Last edited by Jokasti; 2010-12-30 at 05:19 PM.
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Sure, why would Sol need to do anything? He's already deathly sick, and if the Palladium Wyrm's motivation is to be believed... Yeah. He can die on his own. Also, seeing as there's all Gremlin Syndrome everywhere, I imagine chitin and mutated flesh growing alongside human processing plants and massive city-killing weapons. Aimed at everything.
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The Palladium Worm is one artifact... Not exactly threatening, just a nuisance to the whole of Autochthonia. And yes, the sickness is quite worrying, but the UCS might be scared of how it affects Creation, were it to spread out from Autobot. He might take preemptive strides to make sure it doesn't happen, especially if the Maidens were to nudge him.
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You need a Solar shard to make an Abyssal shard. I'm pretty sure he would need access to the Incarnae to make more Celestial Exalted, and I don't know if he's capable of making Terrestials.
Assuming he can remember how to make them, at any rate. From the rest of the Neverborn, it sounds like dying puts a pretty big boot into your hard drive.
As far as Apostates, I would wager that either all Alchies would become them when he suffers fetich death, or that they could try even harder than they were to restore him to Primordial-hood. A beacon in the darkness, etc.
Why would that happen? Solars don't suddenly become powerless or turn into Abyssals when the Unconquered Sun dies. One of the biggest design features of the Exalted is that they aren't dependent on any sort of master or outside power source to function.
Also, fetich death wouldn't kill Autochthon. It would redefine him (if I remember right, this is actually brought up as a really, really drastic measure you could take to cure the robocancer), but Autochthon himself would not die.
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Aside from that, haven't thought much about the Alchies/Abyssals, focusing more on what Autobot actually turns into.
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except he can't feel fear, or something.
So then Autobot would have to surrender
and ol' Sol would ceremonially kill the Core...
And yes, the sickness is quite worrying, but the UCS might be scared of how it affects Creation, were it to spread out from Autobot. He might take preemptive strides to make sure it doesn't happen, especially if the Maidens were to nudge him.
The Palladium Worm is one artifact... Not exactly threatening, just a nuisance to the whole of Autochthonia
I mean obviously you can ignore all of this for the sake of a campaign, but if you're running of canon, the scenario you describe has some holes.
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I forget, who made the Exaltations again? If the Yozis and Deathlords could figure out how to change his creations, I'm sure he could build them from scratch better than the corrupted ones. And he can't make Dragon-Blooded afaik.
Why would he forget? Primordials think much differently than mortals, if you can call it thinking. I doubt he didn't back up that information, or some sort of equivalent. I'm pretty sure Yozi's remember how it was before they were Yozi's, hence the not wanting to be Yozi's anymore thing.
Yes, but do Solars live inside of the UCS? Are they influenced by his Essence at every point in their lives, completely and utterly?
I know... he would also have to surrender, I think, in order to become a Yozi, or slain to become a Neverborn. But fetich death is a large step in the process. I think the Ebon Dragon actually didn't suffer fetich death, although iirc his fetich is left up to Rule 0.
Yes, but again, the Alchemicals live and exist inside of him. They would be influenced by his change greatly, and what he becomes influences what they become. It could not change them at all, and they could try to restore him to a sickness free Primordial again, or they could all turn to Apostates, or something. This is all conjecture.
Yes... but you would need to be a Divine Minister, and none of them want their master to die or become Yozi-fied.
I need to reread the blurb in GotMH:UCS about his emotions and how they're affected by his virtues, but he wouldn't be afraid for himself, but for Creation is what I was going for.
Because he's tired of his sickness and Creation? Autochthon seems pretty depressed to me. Maybe he wants it to end. Or maybe he just wants to be accepted by his kind. There was something about that in MoEP:Alchies about how one of the reasons Autochthon exiled himself to Elsewhere was because he was worried the Gods might try something, and he was lonely as one of the last of his kind. Also, Gaia doesn't really like to look at his ugly mug, and he knows it.
Yes, but I'm pretty sure at the Surrender there were more than a few ceremonial executions that aided the process of becoming Yozis. I think Autobot is far along enough in his sickness that the death of the Core would lead to him becoming a Neverborn.
What about the Apostates? They could go out and spread destruction in Creation very easily, methinks. I could see UCS entering Autochthon and trying to cleanse him, maybe, but if that didn't work he may have to put him to sleep, permanently.
Or everything else in Elsewhere, or anything close to him, I suppose. I don't know how things interact in Elsewhere.
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Alright, so my friends and I are planning on starting up our first game of Exalted.
Woo!
Medium-sized group, probably 5 of us, all told. We all want to play, though, so it looks like we're basically going to take turns Storytelling, sort of a... one person runs it for a while, then change-off. We're working on the details of that, but from my experience, the players in this group are all pretty good at not using meta-game knowledge in-character.
Looks like we'll probably be playing Vanilla Exalted, with a circle of fledgling Solars.
Anyways, this is going to be my first game of Exalted, and I haven't put together an Exalted character before, so I thought I'd run my concept past you guys here and see what input you might contribute to help me put together an interesting (and hopefully playable) character.
So, the character I wanted to play has a bit of a rocky past.
Basically, when she was mortal, she was a very pretty girl, who grew up to be a very pretty lady (What do you think is the highest appearance score a normal mortal should be able to obtain? Is 3 dots too much?). She was pretty shortly enslaved, and sold off. From this point, she was basically a pleasure slave.. I'm thinking something like the Consorts from Firefly, only without all the freedom. However, she became sought-after enough for her beauty and intelligence that she carried a high price, and became something of a commodity, so that when her current owners fell on hard times, she was sold off again (She would frequently nudge her current owners along in this decision).
Now, the nature of her, ah, occupation, being what it was, meant she was frequently left alone in her owners bedrooms or studies, which meant that she had time to read interesting private documents and books from time to time.
Anyways, as I understand it, mortals can Exalt for a variety of things, not just straight-up combat or courage or whatever (correct me if I'm wrong), and this girl's beauty along with her growing skills of manipulation and the knowledge she was building led to her eventually Exalting into the Zenith Caste. As with all Zenith Caste Solars, she was granted a vision of the Unconquered Sun, in which he appeared to her and said simply, "Be free." (As of Exalting, her appearance will probably move up to 5 dots.)
Now, having spent her life thus far in slavery, she may have interpreted this somewhat differently than others might have. The way she reasoned it out, if she were to be free, this meant that she owed no loyalty to anyone who had not earned it, including the Unconquered Sun Himself (may change this point.)
As such, she has spent the first few months of her time as a Solar (prior to the beginning of the game) moving from place to place, gathering up resources and knowledge to increase her own power. As a side effect, her now supernatural beauty has gained her a following of mortals who view her as some sort of fertility goddess, gaining her 2 dots in the cult background.
I was thinking about possibly having her use Sorcery, though I'm not set on that, and she will be pretty heavy into social-fu.
As far as personality goes, she is going to have high Temperance and Conviction, and low Compassion and Valor. She is adept at manipulating people to her own benefit.
Anyways, that's basically the concept that has been floating around in my head, and I was hoping you guys could help me along the path of turning this into a playable character. Advice, criticism, changes you would make, how you would go about actually building this, all is welcome!
Thanks!
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If it's your first time with Exalted, don't use sorcery. It's a tricky little system and difficult to make work well with a starting character.
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Autochthon designed them. He then gave the templates to the gods, who put their own Essence into them, making the Exalted. He also told Gaia how to split up her lesser souls in order to make the Dragon-Blooded. Autochthon never made an actual Exalted with his own hands.
Why would he forget? Primordials think much differently than mortals, if you can call it thinking. I doubt he didn't back up that information, or some sort of equivalent. I'm pretty sure Yozi's remember how it was before they were Yozi's, hence the not wanting to be Yozi's anymore thing.
Yes, but do Solars live inside of the UCS? Are they influenced by his Essence at every point in their lives, completely and utterly?
I know... he would also have to surrender, I think, in order to become a Yozi, or slain to become a Neverborn. But fetich death is a large step in the process. I think the Ebon Dragon actually didn't suffer fetich death, although iirc his fetich is left up to Rule 0.
Yes, but again, the Alchemicals live and exist inside of him.
They would be influenced by his change greatly, and what he becomes influences what they become.
It could not change them at all, and they could try to restore him to a sickness free Primordial again, or they could all turn to Apostates, or something. This is all conjecture.
Yes... but you would need to be a Divine Minister, and none of them want their master to die or become Yozi-fied.
It's an Essence 8 Municipal Charm. It's pretty much invincible from the outside (First Age Twilights couldn't break the thing), but from the inside, there's literally dozens of Exalted who could do it. I don't think the Divine Ministers are even capable of doing it, actually, besides by proxy with the Adamants.
And why would Autochthon die or become Yozi-fied if he established portals into Creation? He fled Creation because he was afraid of the Solars and their growing dickishness (see: Great Geas), not because he thought they were going to stuff him into Malfeas.
Similarly, opening a portal would do nothing to the robocancer. The Eight Nations would most likely open it to get materials (which was the premise of the Locust Crusade back in 1e, ignoring how bad that was). Getting outside help wouldn't be a bad idea to try to treat his disease, either. And it's not like anyone is going to stomp on the people of Autochthon. All Eight Nations together are one of the single most powerful military forces currently around, anywhere. Even a single one of the Nations is an incredibly powerful force, and they, at bare minimum, have to hold a single portal into Creation.
I need to reread the blurb in GotMH:UCS about his emotions and how they're affected by his virtues, but he wouldn't be afraid for himself, but for Creation is what I was going for.
Because he's tired of his sickness and Creation? Autochthon seems pretty depressed to me.
Maybe he wants it to end. Or maybe he just wants to be accepted by his kind. There was something about that in MoEP:Alchies about how one of the reasons Autochthon exiled himself to Elsewhere was because he was worried the Gods might try something, and he was lonely as one of the last of his kind. Also, Gaia doesn't really like to look at his ugly mug, and he knows it.
Yes, but I'm pretty sure at the Surrender there were more than a few ceremonial executions that aided the process of becoming Yozis. I think Autobot is far along enough in his sickness that the death of the Core would lead to him becoming a Neverborn.
What about the Apostates? They could go out and spread destruction in Creation very easily, methinks. I could see UCS entering Autochthon and trying to cleanse him, maybe, but if that didn't work he may have to put him to sleep, permanently.
Or everything else in Elsewhere, or anything close to him, I suppose. I don't know how things interact in Elsewhere.
Exalted canon isn't exactly a flawless tapetry in and of itself.
EDITBasically, when she was mortal, she was a very pretty girl, who grew up to be a very pretty lady (What do you think is the highest appearance score a normal mortal should be able to obtain? Is 3 dots too much?).
Anyways, as I understand it, mortals can Exalt for a variety of things, not just straight-up combat or courage or whatever (correct me if I'm wrong)
and this girl's beauty along with her growing skills of manipulation and the knowledge she was building led to her eventually Exalting into the Zenith Caste.
As with all Zenith Caste Solars, she was granted a vision of the Unconquered Sun, in which he appeared to her and said simply, "Be free." (As of Exalting, her appearance will probably move up to 5 dots.)
You don't build a heroic mortal and then add Solar stuff, normally. You just follow the character guidelines in the book. You get 8 dots in your primary Attribute category, 6 in your secondary, and 4 in your tertiary. You would presumably put 8 dots into your Social attributes, 6 into your Mental, and 4 into your Physical.
Now, having spent her life thus far in slavery, she may have interpreted this somewhat differently than others might have. The way she reasoned it out, if she were to be free, this meant that she owed no loyalty to anyone who had not earned it, including the Unconquered Sun Himself (may change this point.)
I was thinking about possibly having her use Sorcery, though I'm not set on that, and she will be pretty heavy into social-fu.
As far as personality goes, she is going to have high Temperance and Conviction, and low Compassion and Valor. She is adept at manipulating people to her own benefit.Last edited by Mr.Bookworm; 2010-12-30 at 09:48 PM. Reason: Oh gods, more words
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Another problem with doing sorcery is that the core book doesn't have all that much in it. You really need another book(the White/Black Treaties) to get a decent collection of spells.
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Okay, what's people's deal with Lillun? In the linked thread I've seen her name brought up several times, but there's no explanation, just a name.Last edited by Tavar; 2010-12-31 at 12:05 AM.
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To put it bluntly, she's a 12 year old girl who has been raped on pretty much every single level imaginable.
Lillun is the host of the 50 Infernal Exaltations when they're not in use.
Having that much tainted Essence flowing through her has rendered her an insane, twisted, constantly shifting blob of flesh that would make a Lovecraftian horror run screaming for Azazoth. On a good day, she's catatonic. On a bad day...
*shudder*
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I know about her history, I wonder what the contention is; what was done to her is among the most vile acts possible. What pet peeve are you going to draw from that?
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Lillun is the Scarlet Empress' youngest daughter, now used as a vessel to hold unused Infernal Exaltations. She unbirths and rebirths some random demon she manages to grab, and plants an exaltation inside it to carry to Creation to give to a mortal. In the Infernal manual, she's the bloated fat girl the demons bring into that arena, the "phylactery-womb".
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Putting that girl out of her misery is probably the single act with the highest chance of bringing peace to Creation, as it would release 50 Exaltations with no Great Curse, no Torment (no demon host = no Unwoven Coadjutor = no Urge and noone to inflict Torment), and access to the Charms of five of the most powerful beings in existance to do what they would in Creation.
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Well, not quite. The tainted exaltations do seek out demons first as part of their life cycle even when severed from Lillun and the Yozis, and torment is evidently intrinsic, so that remains the same. But it does take the infernals off the leash, and as has been pointed out A) some first circle demons are rather sweet, and B) the Ultimate Act of Villainy™ involves sparing the lives of people trying to kill you so you can invite them to your wedding. Everyone say it with me: Awww....
I.E. they're probably not likely to be much worse than solars at that point.
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@TheCountAlucard - Ah, I see. I suppose that makes sense.
@Mr.Bookworm - Thank you for the feedback. I wasn't really trying to stat her out as a heroic mortal first, just a couple of points of what she was like before Exaltation to give me a better feel for the character, what her personality would be like after Exaltation, and how to play her.
I haven't really thought of a specific moment that would have brought about her Exaltation yet. If I do decide to go ahead with Sorcery, maybe it will be when she attempted her first attempt at casting a spell, without having had anyone train her previously?
If not, then I'm not certain, and will have to put some more thought into it.
@Tavar - I have access to The White & Black Treaties, and have taken a bit of a glance through the White side, so that's not an issue, at least.
One thing I am a bit concerned with is, as this is my first character and all, I'm not certain how well she'll hold up in the party if someone else decides to roll up, say, some burly Dawn Caste warrior type. I was sort of thinking of her not really lugging around a sword or anything, and I'm not entirely certain on how the Exalted Martial arts work yet, either, not to mention I don't know if I'll have points to spare to spend on Martial arts or whatever, so I'm not really sure what to do with her for when Combat rears it's oh-so-pretty head.
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Remember, Autochton is a world unto himself. People live on him. Campaigns take place on him. Stuff happens on him. I wouldn't assume he automatically floats into the Labrynth to join his siblings. I think he would basically become his own version of the Underworld. Also, do we know if Neverborn still work through a soul hierachy system?
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This isn't true. Torment is a function of the Exaltation itself, and the Exaltations don't work without a first-circle demon. You need high-level Heretical charms to get rid of the Unwoven Coadjutor and even when you ascend to Titanhood you still have Torment.
Also, Green Sun Princes have access to more than five charm sets, and can learn the charms of any Yozi or Primordial willing to teach them.
All Primordials are worlds unto themselves - Autochthon isn't anything special in this regard. He'd become a Neverborn just like his siblings.
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This oddly contradicts the fluff, which says the Exaltation's host-seeking mechanism is still intact (it's what guides the host demon to the prospective Infernal) and that the Urge and Torment is managed by the Unwoven Coadjutor.
Also, Green Sun Princes have access to more than five charm sets, and can learn the charms of any Yozi or Primordial willing to teach them.
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