[Rail] Academy City OOC II : ONEESAMA!!!!

[Crafty Cultist]

I agree with the chains thing. Frank knows its in his head, so he can imagine himself breaking through them. He expects the chains were just a distraction while you altered some other aspect of his perception.

Hypnotising yourself to ignore pain was something I didn't even consider. Way to think outside the box.

[Anyr]

Ah but you forget, he may in reality be moving, but he still believes he's still in the same place, all it takes to do that is to makes it so he doesn't percieve he's moving and presto, you have a person who believes they are trapped, while in reality, they aren't

Hmm, isn't that taking the potential of this power a little too far? Creating incredibly realistic illusions is one thing, but completely altering almost every aspect of a target's sensations is quite another. If someone suspects that the chains are false and persists in trying to move even when they feel unyielding, I think that Carver's illusion should simply be 'disbelieved' and fade away. There has to be some way for a target to break out, or Eye Charmer becomes basically becomes an instant win button.

[Cole10000]

Not really in my opinion, considering the fact that someone could do something like crafty just did and say "F you illusions, I know your fake so I'm gonna ignore you." kinda thing.

and Crafty why thank you, I'm a GM for D&D I have to be ready to think outside of the box, and I as well didn't expect you to pull off a move like that with the pepper spray so props to you too.

[Anyr]

Not really in my opinion, considering the fact that someone could do something like crafty just did and say "F you illusions, I know your fake so I'm gonna ignore you." kinda thing.

Then what's to stop Carver from effortlessly winning any fight where he can make eye contact? There has to be some way for a target to counter his illusions.

[Crafty Cultist]

Frank is ingoning any stimulus recieved because he knows it cant be trusted. He's telling his body what to do based on what he remembers from before you made eye contact rather than what his senses tell him.

Frank has been in anti-skill for several years, and he's learnt that sometimes the best way to win is to do something so crazy and/or stupid that no one would expect it.

[Cole10000]

Yeah, there is, override your nervous system to flush out his control over you, admittedly not any sane or normal person could do something like this, but it's an option, as well as the fact that whenever someone knows what carver is doing, they can try and use things carver probobly didnt think to change, like say maybe the movement of air when he moves or something, or maybe he forgot about covering up his footprints in sand or something.

edit: sorry about my poor gramar at the moment, I'm hopped up on halloween candy at the moment.

[Lady Serpentine]

Quick question: Would telekinesis that only affects silicon dioxide be a reasonable power for Alia?

[Crafty Cultist]

There have been espers in cannon with the ability to control certain forms of matter, so it would probably be possible. The general rule is the more specialised the telekenesis the capacity for fine manipulation.

[Anyr]

Yeah, there is, override your nervous system to flush out his control over you, admittedly not any sane or normal person could do something like this, but it's an option, as well as the fact thatwhenever someone knows what carver is doing, they can try and use things carver probobly didnt think to change, like say maybe the movement of air when he moves or something, or maybe he forgot about covering up his footprints in sand or something.

So the options are 'Use a technique that almost nobody is capable of using' or 'Hope that Carver made a mistake'? Sorry, but that's unacceptable. If Eye Charmer is really this impregnable, then it needs some revisions to bring it down to a reasonable level.

[Cole10000]

Hmmm, I see your point there, alright how about this, if carver's Concentration is weakened sufficently then the illusion disipates, so that if you have a buddy he doesnt have control over he can get you free. How's that sound?

[Anyr]

Hmmm, I see your point there, alright how about this, if carver's Concentration is weakened sufficently then the illusion disipates, so that if you have a buddy he doesnt have control over he can get you free. How's that sound?

That's hardly much of a limitation, considering that that should already be true.

[Cole10000]

Well the thing is, you don't need your buddy to rescue you, considering that if you can get in a lucky hit with say a gun or something by shooting wildly, then you're good then too.

[Crafty Cultist]

at the very least, I'd limit eye charm so that it can't alter a person's perception of their own body. A feeling of resistance when touching an illusion is acceptable, but making them feel completely real is clearly within the realm of a level 5. if it could do that, you could just overwhelm a person's nervous system with pain and make them pass out, and an ability that means that eye contact = win is clearly overpowered.

[Cole10000]

alright I can see what you mean there, that makes sense. Alright that is the limitation, Eye charmer cannot currently cause soemone to feel a change on their own body. (except for that Carver can use it on himself)

[AnimeKid]

Hello all. Before I join a game I like to introduce myself. I'm AnimeKid and I'm know Callos, Frozen_Feet and Terry. I would like to join and if you will let me I will have my character up soon. Just so nothing happens I would like to reserve the power of Umbrakinesis(the ability to create and control darkness) for one of my characters (the wiki didn't have it on the taken power list).

[Anyr]

Hello all. Before I join a game I like to introduce myself. I'm AnimeKid and I'm know Callos, Frozen_Feet and Terry. I would like to join and if you will let me I will have my character up soon. Just so nothing happens I would like to reserve the power of Umbrakinesis(the ability to create and control darkness) for one of my characters (the wiki didn't have it on the taken power list).

Greetings and welcome. That power is actually already on the list (albeit as a subset of another power); Powers which 'control darkness' are actually just controlling light, so they're listed that way on the wiki. However, the player who claimed it isn't likely to return, so you're welcome to have it.

[AnimeKid]

Okay then thanks. Wow, so my character could technically control light and darkness. Also I wanted to be able to make darkness constructs. You know shields and bolts and all that. Would that be okay or would that be classified under magic?

[Anyr]

Okay then thanks. Wow, so my character could technically control light and darkness. Also I wanted to be able to make darkness constructs. You know shields and bolts and all that. Would that be okay or would that be classified under magic?

Even the Magic side might have trouble with something like that. The idea of actually controlling darkness is a logical impossibility, since 'darkness' is just shorthand for 'absence of light'. Any Esper who appears to have such an ability is actually just manipulating light in a specialised way. So no, such things are definitely beyond the purview of the Science side (and possibly the Magic side as well).

[AnimeKid]

Huh, well I looked at the powers again and since Ican't use darkness like I planned and Vael has a light manipulation character already can I go with cyrokinesis? (P.S I was looking on Psiwiki for power ideas.)

[Anyr]

Huh, well I looked at the powers again and since Ican't use darkness like I planned and Vael has a light manipulation character already can I go with cyrokinesis? (P.S I was looking on Psiwiki for power ideas.)

Again, you're perfectly free to use 'darkness' as a concept. Rin's power relates only to emitting light, rather than removing it; Your power would thus be almost the opposite of hers.

[AnimeKid]

True, and since I'm guessing we can have multiple characters I can have an ESPer with cryokinesis as well or maybe asreokinesis! http://psi.wikia.com/wiki/Asterokinesis

[Lady Serpentine]

Indeed we can. For example, I have Johnathan and Alia Hunter, both powered.

[Cole10000]

Really you don't even have to use a "real" ability, by that I mean you can simply make one up and construct it's efects and limitations based on your character's level. As long as there is at least some reasoning and explination as to how.

Take mine for example, while I am still currently doing some fine tuneing, my character's ability is Eye charmer, It allows him to affect the sensory portion of the brain, via a visual pathway. Meaning is that if he can make eye contact he can effectively control your nervous system, within reason of course.

One of the most enjoyable things, in my opinion, is how you use your character's power in unconventional situations, in ways you hadn't even thought of before it happened.

That being said, you could always go the Level 0 route, and have no ability whatsoever, there are plenty of interesting and effective characters like that.

[Anyr]

True, and since I'm guessing we can have multiple characters I can have an ESPer with cryokinesis as well or maybe asreokinesis! http://psi.wikia.com/wiki/Asterokinesis

Yes, you can have multiple characters. Cryokinesis follows the same logic as Umbrakinesis; It's not actually the manipulation of cold, but the removal of heat. As for Asterokinesis...Well, that's not actually a power at all. It's more of a vague and inconsistent combination of many different powers. In order to qualify as an Esper ability, its focus would need to be pared down considerably.

[AnimeKid]

Hmmmm, so with cryokinesis I couldn't say make ice needles in the from the hydrogen and oxygen atoms and send them at enemies or freeze the floor . Hmmm, well I'll just have get creative then.

[Cole10000]

well technically you could, you would simply have to work within the bounds of that you're taking the heat away, so say you first splashed the floor with water then drastically lowered the temperature that would freze it,. It's all about how you utilise your power.

[AnimeKid]

Okay then, I'll get started on my characters tommorow. Only cuz I'm using playstation 3 internet right now and even typing out messages like these is a pain. For what my characters ate going to be like, Daisuke (the Umbramancer) is goin to be rather laid back and a cool person. I was thinking about making a level 5 or gemstone with a huge drawback, he has Nyctophobia a fear of darkness, dude has a nightlight and everything. My cryomancer, Tobio, was going to be shy and easily flustered, especially around girls. He would gain confidence when doing something he was very good at though.

[Terry576]

Being a Level 5 really means nothing right now, considering all the crazy crap our level 4s can pull. Souji has, so far:

• Shot a bullet out of the air
• Blown up a wall
• Repaired a PA System with electricity.

Sure, his background means all of this is totally reasonable (Raised by scientists for the sole purpose of being a clone,) but still.

Also, the villain has his power finetuned.

He can manipulating things on an atomic level. Yes, everything. I'll probably introduce him post infiltration arc.

[Anyr]

Being a Level 5 really means nothing right now, considering all the crazy crap our level 4s can pull. Souji has, so far:

• Shot a bullet out of the air
• Blown up a wall
• Repaired a PA System with electricity.

None of which even comes close to matching what his Level 5 equivalent could do. Shooting a bullet out of the air is impressive, but the canon #7 (that is to say, the officially weakest Level 5) can catch a railgun with his teeth. If any Level 4s have delusions of grandeur that cause them to think they're ready to challenge one of these monsters, they'll likely be disabused of that notion faster than you can say 'curbstomp'.

[AnimeKid]

None of which even comes close to matching what his Level 5 equivalent could do. Shooting a bullet out of the air is impressive, but the canon #7 (that is to say, the officially weakest Level 5) can catch a railgun with his teeth. If any Level 4s have delusions of grandeur that cause them to think they're ready to challenge one of these monsters, they'll likely be disabused of that notion faster than you can say 'curbstomp'.

So basically it would take a team of level 4's to take on a level 5? Also could you give some advice on 'the abcence of light' can do on the upper levels? Cause at the moment the best I can come up with is cause extreme fear in others and thats a strech.