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2011-05-13, 02:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-13, 08:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
No, two opposing forces of one pound. Provided you can cast it a large number of times, like with a ring of prestidigitation, you can get the amount of compressed substance to fuse (nuclear fusion). Not quite a black hole, but if you can have hundreds of thousands of solars casting one epic spell, I'm pretty sure you can get a bunch of sorcerers/wizards/UMD abusers to cast it with you.
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2011-05-13, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
Yeah, still not gonna do anything, unless you're stacking them. Since they last 1 hour, you can get a maximum of 600 pounds of force per person this way which is far, far, far away from what you need to get anything interesting. That's like claiming black holes are gonna form by stacking a pair of cars on top of each other. To give you an idea of the numbers involved in making black holes:
As a first order approximation, let us suppose that the coulombic force is the dominant force supporting up a pair of electrons from falling inside their schwarzchild radius and forming a black hole. You'd need about 10^107 prestidigitations to make a pair of electrons collapse. Good luck with that.
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2011-05-13, 09:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-13, 09:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-13, 09:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
Technically speaking, planeshift can get you to the Endless Plane of People Who have prestidigitation at-will and are willing to help strangers. 10^107 people is easy to achieve.
I also said it's possible, not probable.
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2011-05-13, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-13, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
Permissive readings of Grapple.
That is, you grapple four people. Each of those grapples you and three others. And so on. You don't need to get them there in an hour, just have them all be there for an hour.
Everybody voluntarily fails the grapple check to oppose other castings of prestidigitation.ze/zir | she/her
Omnia Vincit Amor
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2011-05-13, 09:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
O_o ... Catgirls ... all gone ...
EDIT: Hey, with all the mass of the people in a five foot square, that could possibly create a black hole, because volume almost doesn't exist in D&D.
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2011-05-13, 10:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-14, 05:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
Wouldn't they all be dead if it is an endless plane of people who have Presti at-will and are willing to help strangers? After all, you can'y have been the first person to think of making a black hole with them.
Also, food?
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2011-05-14, 03:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
Game systems I play: DnD 3.5, Pathfinder, Star Wars Saga, Vampire: The Masquerade, Dungeons: The Dragoning, AFBME, Atomic Highway, Dark Heresy, Legend of the 5 Rings 4E, MAID and... EQRPG... Does anyone actually play that?
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2011-05-14, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-14, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
Game systems I play: DnD 3.5, Pathfinder, Star Wars Saga, Vampire: The Masquerade, Dungeons: The Dragoning, AFBME, Atomic Highway, Dark Heresy, Legend of the 5 Rings 4E, MAID and... EQRPG... Does anyone actually play that?
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2011-05-14, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-14, 11:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
*steals the Fell Animate Sonic Snap*
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2011-05-15, 06:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-15, 02:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-15, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
Mission accomplised.
Actually, that one depends on which infinity is bigger. Either way, you still end up with an infinity, even if it isn't the same one.
But what you should be looking at is (mass)/(volume), and L'Hôpital tells me that would approach 0 as you near infinite quantities of both, if only because mass is one variable and volume is three (each length).Last edited by Siosilvar; 2011-05-15 at 02:46 PM.
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Omnia Vincit Amor
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2011-05-15, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
Well, there's always the good old Hotel Paradox...
(Set theory is rather rigorous, even if it often appears to defy common sense.)Last edited by NNescio; 2011-05-15 at 03:16 PM.
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2011-05-15, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-15, 03:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-15, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-15, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
GitP: The only place where D&D and Cantorian Set Theory combine. Also a place of madness, and small fairy cakes.
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2011-05-15, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-15, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Using Cantrips to break the game more
Yeah. Also, he was trying to use L'Hopital's rule for a multivariable function... (m/ℓ3 instead of x/x3) which doesn't really apply without first jumping through a lot of hoops.
Blame the fluff authors for throwing around the word "infinite" nilly-willy.
Mind if I sig this though?Last edited by NNescio; 2011-05-15 at 04:25 PM.
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2011-05-15, 04:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-15, 09:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-16, 12:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-05-16, 01:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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