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    @SiuiS: It's concave. Trust me on that
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    Thanks for the explain SiuiS! Makes sense when you put it like that.

    Day 140: Exploration

    Charger learns an important lesson about Shapeshifting.

    The dog worked out ace, the cat, not so much.

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    The dog's head is pretty nice. It could kinda work as a cartoony representation of a tiny kitty and a large dog, although the dog is on a more realistic style than the cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trazoi View Post
    The dog's head is pretty nice. It could kinda work as a cartoony representation of a tiny kitty and a large dog, although the dog is on a more realistic style than the cat.
    That was the problem, I took a meander off-model which didn't pay off.

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    The hands seem right, as from the angle of shoulders and barrel of the gun, they weapon is perpendicular to the camera; the hands are both equidistant from the viewer.

    Trouble with the gun is the bullet drum has more perspective applied than the rest. It's visible as if in 3/4 profile, and the rest of the gun looks just straight side-view. But guns are hard.

    Also, some help here if you would please...

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    What the hay am I looking at!?
    I can't tell if the main curve-swell is convex or concave... It's maddening. I have to fight the urge to move my head to see around the building.

    Further review suggests concave, but that's because it makes the shadows slightly less inconsistent. The whole thing still looks like a painting thrown up onto reality.
    It's official. I'm totally hiring a Russian architect to design my house when I get my own. XD

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    Thanks for the explain SiuiS! Makes sense when you put it like that.

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    Cuuute~

    *giggles* She shoulda transformed into a lightning wolf again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkflight View Post
    It's official. I'm totally hiring a Russian architect to design my house when I get my own. XD



    Cuuute~

    *giggles* She shoulda transformed into a lightning wolf again.
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    Day 141: Nostalgia P1

    Elwin was the very first character I ever roleplayed. He was fairly terrible, a half-veiled ripoff off Terry Pratchett vampires. He was for a forum where everyone was playing overpowered self-inserts.

    But, in the end, a vampire fiddler who dressed like a clown, was a sarcastic bastard, and got disintegrated off screen and came back years later as a pair of disembodied eyebrows wasn't the worst start I could have made on this whole writin' thing.

    Picture's quite quick and is terribly flawed, but it had a few interesting challenges that got me thinking and all I wanted to do today.

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    Was almost finished something that was shaping up as legit awesome when Corel crashed. Fffffffffffffffffffff
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    Alright. Redone. From scratch. Goddamn it.

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    On the list!
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    Alright. Redone. From scratch. Goddamn it.

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    Awesome! Wasn't exactly a request, but awesome. XD
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    Day 143: Vanity

    *Shaving*
    *Oh hey, what's that?*
    *Flexes*
    *Ohhh, so that's how that thing attaches*
    *That's like a triangle shape thing. Huh.*
    *Flexes in mirror for ten minutes*
    Aloud: "Looking good, Thanqol, looking real good!"
    *Crud. How do I justify this? Oh! Art practise!*
    *Gets sketchbook and draws self flexing in mirror*
    *Learns a remarkable amount*

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    Day 144: Mr. Biscuit's Forgiveness Emporium.

    MORE PONIES, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT

    I'm glad I decided to do this rather than go to sleep in a bad mood. Seriously, I'm getting to really love drawing.

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    Day 144a: Strength

    Tarot cards are cool. Strength fascinates me in particular.

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    Re: post 520
    That's the spirit!

    Also I can't believe you actually did that, that is awesome

    I draw pictures:


    (haven't been updated in a while and you can read the comic here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    Day 144a: Strength

    Tarot cards are cool. Strength fascinates me in particular.

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    So.... what's the symbolism of using the griffon?

    (My internet handle years and years ago was "Hierophant" ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saeyan View Post
    Re: post 520
    That's the spirit!

    Also I can't believe you actually did that, that is awesome
    Shirtless standing mirror art is best art. I'll do it again when the weather warms up

    It was great practise, too ^^

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    So.... what's the symbolism of using the griffon?

    (My internet handle years and years ago was "Hierophant" ).
    Griffon's half lion, and the Strength card is a chick holding a lion's jaws closed. I coulda used the manticore but griffons are cool.

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    Day 143: Vanity

    *Shaving*
    *Oh hey, what's that?*
    *Flexes*
    *Ohhh, so that's how that thing attaches*
    *That's like a triangle shape thing. Huh.*
    *Flexes in mirror for ten minutes*
    Aloud: "Looking good, Thanqol, looking real good!"
    *Crud. How do I justify this? Oh! Art practise!*
    *Gets sketchbook and draws self flexing in mirror*
    *Learns a remarkable amount*

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    Eyup. It gets worse if you ever take to palpating an area to discern it's properties.

    And they said vanity was a bad thing! But then one day, they drew the sternocleidomastoid as a single cord. WHO WAS LAUGHING THEN HYPOTHETICAL JUDGING PEOPLE?! WAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Related, anatomy practice is really just learning the basics, and then seeing how they differ person to person.
    An example; Mookie, artist for Dominic Deegan, always draws his ladies with the dame but shape, despite them all being differently built. Mookie seems to have memorized one way the flutes lay together, and stuck to it- all of his characters have unfortunate white girl butts.

    Try to hit up different sources to see how things differ. For arms and torsos, look at body builders, wrestlers, farmers, shirtless geeks, porn adds, etc. Compare them to tutorials. You'll see all sorts of interesting differences in the overlay, the space between belly of the muscle and it's connection points... IRS fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    griffons are cool.
    Preach it, brudda!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiuiS View Post
    Try to hit up different sources to see how things differ. For arms and torsos, look at body builders, wrestlers, farmers, shirtless geeks, porn adds, etc. Compare them to tutorials. You'll see all sorts of interesting differences in the overlay, the space between belly of the muscle and it's connection points... IRS fun.
    Will do! IRS fun is best fun.

    Day 145: A hop-skip and jump!

    Whoops! Left this too long so I defaulted to something not super challenging. And 'cause I'm me, I found a way to make it challenging. The sword isn't good, per se, but it definitely has some perspective going for it, and the picture feels like it has motion. Mask looks good, you can tell I've practised that. Net win.

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    Day 146: GODDAMN OWLS

    Forgot to take my notepad and I'm exhausted to the point of collapse so I had to do a really fast sketch on an indecipherable topic about an injoke no one will get.

    OWLS.

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    Day 147: The first problem...

    Is still the hardest. I need to schedule, like, 100 days of drawing girls' faces in a row until I've got the hang of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    OWLS.
    That's Athena/Minerva's owl, isn't it?

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    Day 147: The first problem...

    Is still the hardest. I need to schedule, like, 100 days of drawing girls' faces in a row until I've got the hang of it.

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    Yeah, the faces always seem to need more practice, don't they?

    The main thing I notice from your image is that the eyes are different sizes. I think I read in a (cartooning?) book that the eyes are the thing people take in first. You can get away with a bit of wobbliness with the rest of the image, but the eyes are really noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trazoi View Post
    That's Athena/Minerva's owl, isn't it?
    Yes; but it's a reference to the Crete LP on the Something Awful forums. Which was, aha... insane.

    Yeah, the faces always seem to need more practice, don't they?

    The main thing I notice from your image is that the eyes are different sizes. I think I read in a (cartooning?) book that the eyes are the thing people take in first. You can get away with a bit of wobbliness with the rest of the image, but the eyes are really noticeable.
    I actually feel like I've got a decent handle on eyes; they're sketchy in that picture but I feel like I could easily fix them up. It's the shape of the face which I'm really struggling with.

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    Alright, gentlemen... i'm posing this challenge to all three of you!

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    Hey, check out my site. (It has interactive comics, stories and coding efforts.)

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    Day 145: A hop-skip and jump!
    Good sense of motion there, though his right arm seems to have been the victim of some sort of industrial accident... the glove on the right hand needs more perspective applied to it as it currently looks as if it is going straight back from the viewer's POV.
    If the cuff of the glove was concave and had some shading under it there would be more sense of the hand pointing away from the viewer. The same could be said of the elbow joint, as it currently looks to me like the lower arm is going straight up, not pointing towards the background.

    And is that his thumb on the outside?


    For the legs as a personal thing I'd put the right leg up or down a fraction so the the right thigh is visable behind the left. This isn't necessary by any means, but it would give more solidity to the picture. If you did it below you may need to adjust the waist and hips slightly.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thanqol View Post
    Day 147: The first problem...

    Is still the hardest. I need to schedule, like, 100 days of drawing girls' faces in a row until I've got the hang of it.
    First thing I must say is don't just draw girls. That's what I did, and while I can certainly draw women easily, I cannot draw dudes - it's somewhat bizzare really, but just learn to draw faces

    Bald people are a great resource to study as you can get the full head shape and just add hair on yourself


    As for your pic, the construction lines are a bit distracting, but the two things (aside from the crazy eye) that stand out are her jawline and nose. She has a very wide face, but a very thin jaw, but as it's only sketchy it's a bit hard to say for certain.
    With her nose the nostrils are too low and the perspecitve is off on them. Here's a good link to pics of women's faces from the same perspective and roughly the same expression, so you will hopefully be able to see what I mean.

    Vertically proportionally the pic is prettymuch spot on, but the horizontal is odd. I think the nose and mouth drift off centre, but again, sketchyness here so not a huge issue.

    Though I'm sure you've got some already, here is one resource for facial proportions, and here is another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domochevsky View Post
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    Good sense of motion there, though his right arm seems to have been the victim of some sort of industrial accident... the glove on the right hand needs more perspective applied to it as it currently looks as if it is going straight back from the viewer's POV.
    If the cuff of the glove was concave and had some shading under it there would be more sense of the hand pointing away from the viewer. The same could be said of the elbow joint, as it currently looks to me like the lower arm is going straight up, not pointing towards the background.

    And is that his thumb on the outside?
    I was rushed and exhausted, and I got to the hands, and I was like 'yeah, nah'. Otherwise, these are all good points and I'll remember 'em.

    For the legs as a personal thing I'd put the right leg up or down a fraction so the the right thigh is visable behind the left. This isn't necessary by any means, but it would give more solidity to the picture. If you did it below you may need to adjust the waist and hips slightly.
    *Nod nod* Ahh, righto.

    First thing I must say is don't just draw girls. That's what I did, and while I can certainly draw women easily, I cannot draw dudes - it's somewhat bizzare really, but just learn to draw faces

    Bald people are a great resource to study as you can get the full head shape and just add hair on yourself
    But guys are easy! You just have to make them look kinda ugly!


    As for your pic, the construction lines are a bit distracting, but the two things (aside from the crazy eye) that stand out are her jawline and nose. She has a very wide face, but a very thin jaw, but as it's only sketchy it's a bit hard to say for certain.
    With her nose the nostrils are too low and the perspecitve is off on them. Here's a good link to pics of women's faces from the same perspective and roughly the same expression, so you will hopefully be able to see what I mean.

    Vertically proportionally the pic is prettymuch spot on, but the horizontal is odd. I think the nose and mouth drift off centre, but again, sketchyness here so not a huge issue.

    Though I'm sure you've got some already, here is one resource for facial proportions, and here is another.
    Thanks for the links and advice; I certainly don't have enough tutorial pictures I'll schedule a big pile of face drawings in the hopes that practise can get me past the block

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    Day 148: Director

    Aebi don't take yo' shizzle.

    Incomplete, limited time. Will finish over next few days

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    Day 149: Government In Action

    This was great fun. Thanks for the challenge, Domo.

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    Day 149a: Nostalgia p2: Athi

    Athi was another old character, and part of my first foray into science fiction. She's an Azura'goldir, the pilot caste of the Kobold race. The Kobolds have a special place in my heart; they're my idea of an utopian society, and funnily enough everyone else sees them as a kind of creepy dystopia. This just proves that everyone but me has stupid ideas about politics.

    Anyway, Athi. Shot down, crash landed, stranded on a human planet and cut off from her Clutch - closer than her family - Athi had a hard life and, because the game petered out before it went anywhere, she never got a happy ending. I always felt sorry for her, stranded on that alien world, staring at the stars and wanting to go home.

    This picture was an experiment in drawing a female body, and I learned a lot. I also had to stare at a set of breasts for so long that they stopped being sexy, which is an unfortunate side effect of art.

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    Kobolds? I love lizardfolk! Let's take a look wait that's a woman with a beak. Where's the lizards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trazoi View Post
    Kobolds? I love lizardfolk! Let's take a look wait that's a woman with a beak. Where's the lizards?
    You're obviously not familiar with science fiction (though you did remind me I forgot the tail)

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    I know what you mean. You know they're trying to create meat without the animal? Just growing muscle by itself? Everyone but me thinks that's creepy.

    So what's Kobold society like?

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