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[Androgeus]

Speaking of Stuffy Doll related combos, I've always wanted to make a deck with Stuffy Doll + Pariah. Just because it would be silly.

If you make sure you have some Repercussions with Pariah you end up in a game winning loop.

[Zocelot]

Oh yeah, before someone else says it:

Nin, the Pain Artist + Swans of Bryn Argoll/Stuffy Doll = Owww...

Nin is best as a general, I think. No Swans, but Stuffy Doll and Psychosis Crawler are both a ton of pain. Treachery lets you kill their guy while still drawing the cards, and Dominus of Fealty gives does the same thing every turn.

What combos are available in UR EDH? I've got Slaverlock and Tidespout Tyrant infinite mana, and I'm sure there are tons more, but I'm rather unfamiliar with the format. I don't care if the combos are unfair, cruel, or will get everyone to gang up on you. I just want to try making a very combo-ish Nin deck as a thought exercise.

[Silviya]

It's official: Izzet colors are Johnnyriffic.

I agree. I also find those colors really fun becuase of the whole "mad scientist" thing. I've always found enemy colors much more interesting then allied colors, and UR takes the cake for being the most fun and interesting.

If you make sure you have some Repercussions with Pariah you end up in a game winning loop.

I had actually never seen that card. Now I think I need to make a R/W casual deck around that combo, with lots of enchantment tutors and ways to stall the game until I get the combo off. It might not win much, but it'll be fun.

[Suedars]

There's the classic Niv-Mizzet+Curiosity/Ophidian Eye to deal a ton of damage (limited by the number of cards in your deck) and draw most of your deck. Add Kozilek/Ulamog somewhere in your list and a Mind Over Matter out on the table and it goes infinite and produces infinite mana to go with drawing your entire deck.

[Penguinizer]

So, the order of Commander decks for my LGS is currently MIA. sort of annoyed.

[Androgeus]

I had actually never seen that card. Now I think I need to make a R/W casual deck around that combo, with lots of enchantment tutors and ways to stall the game until I get the combo off. It might not win much, but it'll be fun.

you can do it mono-red with Pariah's Shield, but that's probably not the best idea for a combo deck.

Also just found Coalhauler Swine, the multi-player version of stuffy doll with out the indestructibility.

[tgva8889]

If you wanted to abuse Nin, you could also play Indestructible creatures, since you can Fireball them with Nin and just draw a ton of cards. There's also Mogg Maniac. Also, Psychic Possession.

[Suedars]

It looks like some Innistrad cards accidentally got leaked in the hidden files of Duels12: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showp...6&postcount=21

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Looks like those of us predicting a graveyard block were right. I wonder if this confirms that it'll be the Victorian flavored one previewed in Future Sight. The Cultists, Crows, and Geists sure seem to predict that.

[BladeofOblivion]

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Angelic Destiny and Bloodgift Demon are very cool.

The former can turn a Germ Token into a Serra Angel, for less than Serra Angel actually costs! The latter is Phyrexian Arena on a boltproof body. Heck yeah!

[Androgeus]

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The former can turn a Germ Token into a Serra Angel, for less than Serra Angel actually costs!

Don't forget that you still have to pay for the germ token, so the cheapest you can get(flayer husk) it is the same as Serra Angel

[BladeofOblivion]

Don't forget that you still have to pay for the germ token, so the cheapest you can get(flayer husk) it is the same as Serra Angel

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Yeah, but that also leaves you with an extra artifact on the field. Or a 5/5 version of Serra Angel, if you leave it attached. In any case, my point is that it's cool.

[Gauntlet]

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It's not quite Serra Angel. The thing gets First Strike rather than Vigilance. However, at some point someone is going to put this on a Hexproof creature, and bad things will happen. It also happens to synergise perfectly with Batterskull.

[memnarch]

Think you could spoiler those posts? The set isn't even out yet!

[Fable Wright]

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Minus the vigilance. It's closer to a Baneslayer on a stick than a Serra Angel.

Stick one on Serra Ascendant for added hilarity...

[Suedars]

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It certainly points toward Scars Block White Weenie/Tempered Steel decks being one of the better decks post rotation. Instant speed removal is going to be an absolute necessity.

[BladeofOblivion]

Think you could spoiler those posts? The set isn't even out yet!

Sorry, fixed.

[IthilanorStPete]

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I approve of graveyard focus, the return of flashback, and Gothic horror themes. Very interested to see what knd of graveyard-related mechanics they've made since Odyssey block.

[Suedars]

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Well there's the possibility of Delve, though that'll probably only show up at Rare and Mythic since having half a dozen cards in your Draft deck that want you to exile cards from your graveyard probably wouldn't work too well in a gy set.

[Fable Wright]

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Well there's the possibility of Delve, though that'll probably only show up at Rare and Mythic since having half a dozen cards in your Draft deck that want you to exile cards from your graveyard probably wouldn't work too well in a gy set.

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I don't really think so; it's going to wind up forcing you to allocate resources in your graveyard, though. Your graveyard is now as much a zone as your hand. Also, Nihil Spellbomb is going to get much better.

[Zocelot]

There's the classic Niv-Mizzet+Curiosity/Ophidian Eye to deal a ton of damage (limited by the number of cards in your deck) and draw most of your deck. Add Kozilek/Ulamog somewhere in your list and a Mind Over Matter out on the table and it goes infinite and produces infinite mana to go with drawing your entire deck.

That's pretty good. Mind's Eye and Temple Bell also combo nicely. Teferi and either Omen Machine or Knowledge Pool also provides a lock (I don't fully understand the Knowledge Pool one, but I hear it's true). Vesuvan Shapeshifter and Brine Elemental is a pretty serious soft lock.

[Fable Wright]

That's pretty good. Mind's Eye and Temple Bell also combo nicely. Teferi and either Omen Machine or Knowledge Pool also provides a lock (I don't fully understand the Knowledge Pool one, but I hear it's true). Vesuvan Shapeshifter and Brine Elemental is a pretty serious soft lock.

Knowledge pool is a pseudo-lock in itself: After everyone's done casting small spells to get big ones, there's the problem of instants: After you try casting a big spell, someone else is going to steal it with their instants, and you don't really want to give them that... it's a decent lock on the game by itself IMO. Teferi makes it so that you always get the better spells; you cast everything as an instant, while the opponent can only cast as a sorcery. You always steal their big spells, and they can do nothing about it.

[IthilanorStPete]

That's pretty good. Mind's Eye and Temple Bell also combo nicely. Teferi and either Omen Machine or Knowledge Pool also provides a lock (I don't fully understand the Knowledge Pool one, but I hear it's true). Vesuvan Shapeshifter and Brine Elemental is a pretty serious soft lock.

Both Omen Machine and Knowledge Pool have people playing spells in the middle of the Machine's/Pool's abilities resolution. As this is not a time when you could normally play a sorcery, and can't overrides can, Teferi prevents your opponents from playing spells this way. Thus, it's a lock.

[Maho-Tsukai]

While still planing on my wrath deck, looking through my collection has revealed to me that I also have a lot of spare cards to upgrade the B/G/W commander precon and thus came up with a very quick deck list which I would like you to all fix. Most likely it's meh, but I was looking for it to expand on the token theme of the base theme deck, as well as add a stronger mana-fixing element, some more support for the sacrificial theme as well as a few other things...

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Commander:
1x Ghave, Guru of Spores

Creatures (26):
1x Teneb the Harvaster
1x Karador, Ghost Cheiftan
1x Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter
1x Chorus of the Conclave
1x Verdeloth the Ancient
1x Nemata, Grove Gurdian
1x Feral Hydra
1x Living Hive
1x Elsh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1x Juniper Order Ranger
1x Thelonate Hermate
1x Sigil Captian
1x Forgotten Ancient
1x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Knight of the Requlery
1x Orzhov Pontif
1x Necroplasm
1x Phyrexian Broodlings
1x Spike Feeder
1x Spawnwrithe
1x Yavymaya Elder
1x Skullbriar, the Walking Grave
1x Scavagening Ooze
1x Sakura Tribe Elfer
1x Selensia Evangelical
1x Selensia Guildmage

Planeswalkers (3):
1x Lillina Ves
1x Garuk Wildspeaker
1x Eleispeth, Knight Errant

Enchantments (10):
1x Debtor's Knell
1x Infernal Genesis
1x Doubling Season
1x Mirari's Wake
1x Grave Pact
1x Beastmaster Ascension
1x Fecundity
1x Phyrexian Arena
1x Awakening Zone
1x Sylivan Library

Sorceries/Instants (15):
1x Plague Wind
1x Phyrexian Rebirth
1x Saporling Symbiosis
1x Wrath of God
1x Damnation
1x Diabolic Tutor
1x Harrow
1x Growth Spasam
1x Journy of Discovery
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Cultivate
1x Martial Coup
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Rampent Growth
1x Alliance of Arms

Artifacts (6):
1x Oblivion Stone
1x Golgari Signant
1x Orzhov Signan
1x Selensia Signant
1x Sensei's Diving Top
1x Sol Ring

Lands (39):
1x Miren, the Moaning Well
1x Pendlehaven
1x Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
1x Vesuva
1x Command Tower
1x Temple of the False God
1x Vitu Ghazi, the City Tree
1x City of Brass
1x Forbidden Orchard
1x Rupture Spire
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Evolving Wilds
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Lanowar Waste
1x Godless Shrine
1x Caves of Korolis
1x Sunpetal Grove
1x Razorverge Thicket
1x Golgari Rot Farm
1x Orzhov Bassilca
1x Selensia Sanctuary
1x Vivid Marsh
1x Vivid Meadow
1x Vivid Grove
1x Khalni Garden
4x Planes
4x Swamp
5x Forest

So, anybody have advice on how to make this better before I try and build it in real life?

[tgva8889]

Immediate suggestion: Sort better. Check my post earlier in this thread where I resorted someone's list of cards for their EDH deck. It's totally useless to sort by card type, because cards of the same type all do different things. That'll really help you look at your deck and see if you need more cards in a certain section.

[Volos]

Immediate suggestion: Sort better. Check my post earlier in this thread where I resorted someone's list of cards for their EDH deck. It's totally useless to sort by card type, because cards of the same type all do different things. That'll really help you look at your deck and see if you need more cards in a certain section.

Not Quite As Immediate Suggestion: Link each card to... well, the card. It would make it easier for your reviewers. The less effort we need to take to review your deck, the more likely we are to review it. This doesn't have a 100% success rate, but it works more often then not.

[Frankelshtein]

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It also happens to synergise perfectly with Batterskull.

I can see it now, the grotesque, semi-living battering ram soaring through the air on angelic wings, a heavenly glow emanating from its halo, even as its hundreds of tiny legs scrabble beneath it

[Androgeus]

talking of new cards, I didn't know so many m12 cards were already about.
Seems mostly awesome.

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Blue gets grizzly bears! for U!... ok it does implode if targeted, but still.
I would say that I can so see people making illusion tribal decks, but it already happened in Duels.

[Bucky]

Seems mostly awesome.

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Blue gets grizzly bears! for U!... ok it does implode if targeted, but still.
I would say that I can so see people making illusion tribal decks, but it already happened in Duels.

That is a pretty bad deck idea, because there are a lot of cards it just can't beat.

[Narkis]

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That bear will be an excellent replacement for Kraken Hatchling in my Mono-U Architect deck.

[The-Mage-King]

So... I was going to go to the Commander release today, at my FLGS.


However, I called ahead, and they were down to two of the aforementioned decks, both of which were Political Puppets.

Obviously, I decided to skip it, even though I've missed the last 5 release/prereleases due to... Well, the last one being held on Mother's Day.

I am slightly annoyed.

At least the other store I went to had the deck I wanted to get.