AVB - Ishmael Mk II

[planswalker]

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not sure where you got all that from.

in order to craft a poison, you must have craft(poisonmaking).

it costs 1/3 the market price in raw materials.

if it doesn't have a published dc to craft, you cannot craft it. if it does, you use that dc. if it does have a craft dc, you may add 5 to it to add a +2 save dc, my houserule.

your craft check is the amount of progress you made in making the item. Your total is the total gold value times the dc is the total value you craft for that day. the houserule I'm using doubles the value of the poison for purposes of craft time.

[Monodominant]

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Well part comes from Arms & Equipment guide.

I guess I am unlucky as Drow poison doesnt have a craft DC... all DMG poisons dont actually...

So, going by A&E guide raw material cost for non-rare poisons is 1/6 market value.

I do have craft poisonmaking... remember I asked you when I levelled.

So to keep things simple.

Lets say I am crafting normal Crippling vine poison (DC 13 to resist, does 1d4 Con&Str but no secondary.) and is dc15 to make with a market value of 180gp. So raw materials cost 30gp a pop.

I rolled 15, dc is 15, so how much did I make in one day?

[planswalker]

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no, A&E is 3E, not 3.5. it is wrong.

all crafting in 3.5 is 1/3 the costs, regardless.

[Monodominant]

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Got it. So raw materials are 60.

Are we at least using A&E for craft DCs? Cause its the only source with many poisons. There are few in C.Scoundrel and DotU but those are very special ones. The core DnD ones from the 3.5 DMG dont state their craft DC...

[planswalker]

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yes for craft dc's.

CAdv lists the dc's for the DMG poisons:

http://eberronunlimited.wikidot.com/poisons

[Monodominant]

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Awesome! Thanks!!!

So to finish this (and thanks for bearing with me)

Since Drow Poison is the same DC to craft (15, like I rolled).

Can I have gone for that instead? I rolled 15, dc is 15, cost per dose is 75gp and cost of raw materials is 25gp.

So how many doses do I make?

[Monodominant]

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bump just in case?

Also would you object in me having my investigator meet you partners against crime? He has so far found the library...

[planswalker]

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you can make 1 dose a day.

[Monodominant]

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Okay I was asking cause at normal crafting rules it says that if you do double the value or something you can choose to either make it quicker or make more of something... with the house rule that we use gold instead of silver for base value that should mean being able to make multiple doses (or at least cut down the time by a lot) in a single day.

Anyway, 1 is good :D

Ishmael looks at the vial appraisingly. His first poison. He smiles smugly to himself as he packs away the tools of his new trade, cleans up any traces left on his working area meticulously, washes his hands and packs away the remaining ingredients.

Sooner or later he would have to get some time for himself and build his stock but the next days were packed.

Ishmael changes into a new, clean and unused outfit, checks his equipment and gear and walks outside. Time to free up a nice banker of his burden.

Before walking out he stops by the horse merchant, once again taking the appearance of the Toe, and buys the horse asking the man to have it ready for him.

He doesnt haggle, he doesnt argue he makes it seem as if he is either loaded enough or in alot of hurry not to bother with usual trade procedures.

Once that is done he roams the street to lose any pursuers, hiding and dashing behind areas of low illumination and eventually heads towards the bank making sure he is there a couple of hours before the banker told him he has to meet with the Jacks. Once in an alley near it he pauses, uses his hat to make him appear like the same businessman he had appeared to be last time and even uses the kit to that effect.

He then approaches and enters the bank.

[planswalker]

Inside, the bank looks much as it did last time.

[Monodominant]

He approaches a cashier and smiles at her.

"I am here to see the owner. I have an appointment. " he says calmly

[planswalker]

"Very good. Name, please?"

[Monodominant]

"Marcus, Marcus Ebonfire. We had a meeting setup to talk about business and... heh... angels"

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Page 42 and 43 if you need to refresh your memory : http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...187462&page=42

Essentially I am supposed to come and help him get rid of the Toe who will then appear to have escaped the city. They had an appointment today in the afternoon.

[planswalker]

She looks it up. "Ah, yes indeed. You're early."

[Monodominant]

"The good children cook before they are hungry, they say where I am from. I will wait until he is ready but please do tell him I have arrived." he says and waits patiently.

[planswalker]

"Very well sir."

An hour later, you are called into his private office.

[Monodominant]

Ishmael walks in carefully expecting that the man may have betrayed him or worse.

[planswalker]

"Come have a seat, Mr. Ebonfire. Are things ready?"

[Monodominant]

" I would rather stay standing if its all the same to you..." he says as he selects a corner of the room at which he can actually hide.

" Things are arranged. I have appeared as our intended target in some places in the city. I have purchased a horse with his persona and have acted suspiciously. As soon as we are done here I shall -become- him once more and leave the city in a hurry... have you done your part? Opened a couple of accounts in his name here and in the nearby city as we agreed?" he asks quietly.

[planswalker]

"Of course. All is prepared."

[Monodominant]

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Please do an active sense motive for me...

Ishmael nods his approval and leans back against the wall.

"I am very happy to have come to this agreement with you sir. I hate killing innocents but I love taking out Jacks... I would have much preferred to hand him over to the Watch but well... one has to do what one has to do..." he says and grins.

"In any case. I shall hide here, avert your eyes and give me a few seconds. Act terrified when they come and all that or however you ussually act. Do not look at me or towards me. I hope that its not the thugs that will join us this time but the Toe as you said... so lets see how it goes. I shall strike on an opportune moment. Act suprised and all that, we dont want them attacking you or anything... or put your crossbow to good use... Oh and leave the key of your door on it... we dont want them running away..." he says as he coats the spiked chain in the drow poison he had created before withdrawing into the shadows cast by his chosen corner.

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Taking 10 on hide for 39...

Not moving so no MS for now.

[planswalker]

The banker agrees and allows you to hide in your corner.

At the appointed time the Toe walks in with four minions in... tow.

[Monodominant]

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HAHAHA I really loled...

so its 5 of them... ouch...

Ishmael does not move a muscle for now. He breathes softly and slowly and simply waits in his corner and as he focuses and starts -observing- the Toe.

[planswalker]

"Spread out." the Toe tells his nails. "So, Darkmoor, your financial plans made for next week's insurance payments?"

The other four spread out, apparently their jobs are to intimidate the rest of the bank patrons into not interfering.

"You're here yourself. That's odd. Normally you send a flunky to take care of this."

"Two of my friends bit the dust the other day, and things are stretched a little thin. Thought I'd make sure your operation went smoothly."

"How kind."

[Monodominant]

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So I take it we are in the Darkmoors office while the remaining thugs went back to the main room to make sure nothing happens?

If yes I do the following, if not I will have to revise.

Ishmael uses the hat to assume the appearance of the Toe. After he is done observing he approaches the man quietly from behind making sure he is not visible from outside the door.

He counts to three and strikes trying to silence or kill the man in one blow not to alert the Nails.

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Move silently: (1d20+23)[38] just a 5 foot step to get within 10 feet of him from the corner. By the way he is human right?

Attack roll (1d20+13)[26] vs flatfooted - crit confirm (1d20+13)[20]

Save vs Death attack DC 14.
Save vs Drow Poison DC 13 or unconsious for (2d4)[7] rounds...

If he survives/is still up:

Damage (2d4+9)[15] - in case of crit (2d4+9)[16]
Human Bane (2d6)[9]
Sneak attack (4d6)[17]
Caustic Burst (2d6)[6]
Swift using Blade of Blood and taking 5 points of damage (3d6)[11]

Edit: and yet another dc 15 save for massive damage if this wasnt enough to kill him :)

And if this drops him move equivalent to catch him before he falls on the ground and makes sound.

[planswalker]

The Toe dies from your deathly death attack. The Nails are currently unaware.

[Monodominant]

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I am starting to become too lethal! A hold person still ends killing me very neatly but still :D

Ishmael catches the body and eyes the banker as he pulls it to a corner of the room deftly before making his chain appear as whatever weapon the Toe had.

He looks at the Banker winks and then bangs his hand on the table before shoving everything that was on it on the ground.

"You think I am JOKING? If I were you Blackmoor I would cut the attitude and get me my money before I beat you black and blue like last week okay?" he says firmly yet keeping his tone low.

In the moments that pass he points at the body in the corner of the room and mouths -Later I come for him-.

[planswalker]

"Alright, Gorvitch, whatever you say. I'll be sure to have the money on time this time." he nods.

[Monodominant]

The new Toe fakes punching the banker and snorts.

"You better do better than that... I want some spending cash. Give me that sack you have there, it seems to heavy for you and I wouldnt want you to get a back pain" he says motioning to the man towards his own sack and making a sign for the banker to say a high amount.

[planswalker]

"But that's 100,000 gold! That's over half the amount I'm supposed to pay you in three weeks!"