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Thread: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
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2011-10-26, 07:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
A75
Other than the Fighter class feature of retraining his feats (gained from extra feats, he can't retrain feats gained from leveling), I don't think there is any rule.
However, it is mentioned in every new book, iirc, that since new feats, spells, classes, archetypes, etc are released and that they sometimes will fit a PC's concept better than anything else that existed up to that point, upon DM's approval they can be all retrained and retconned.
A simple example is the Magus, which is the Pathfinder gish-in-a-can, I can only imagine how many Eldritch Knights (or people on the road to get there) begged their DMs so they could be Magi instead because the class fit the "someone trained since day one to be a gish" as opposed to a "Wizard who learns to wave a pointy stick/Fighter who learns to cast spells".
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2011-10-26, 08:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Q77 (I think)
One of the Alchemist bomb-additive powers states that the intended target catches fire and burns until it puts itself out. Silly question, but if the target can't put itself out, does it burn for eternity? is this time to step outside RAW?
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2011-10-26, 08:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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A77 (I also think)
You mean Explosive Bomb, right?
And yes, by RAW the flames keep burning the target forever if they aren't extinguished. But I don't think the omission of the duration is an accident, I do believe that it was the designers' intent to mimic the effects of a massive explosion, which burns and destroys everything in time if not contained.
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2011-10-26, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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A77b
Here's the full rules about catching on fire. By RAW, the fire does not end until a successful reflex save is made or it is put out by smothering, etc.
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2011-10-26, 10:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Q78.
When one becomes an Outsider (for example via the Monk capstone) does that retroactively affect his BaB, HD, skills, etc? Or only from that point on? Or even at all?Last edited by JKTrickster; 2011-10-26 at 10:01 AM.
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2011-10-26, 10:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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A78
It depends mostly on by what means the creature is changing type. As per the monk example:
Perfect Self: At 20th level, a monk becomes a magical creature. He is forevermore treated as an outsider rather than as a humanoid (or whatever the monk's creature type was) for the purpose of spells and magical effects.
Most templates that change a creature's type specify what statistics to change. Compare with Vampire.
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2011-10-26, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Q 79: The Witch's Misfortune Hex + Cackle:
I have a question about how much the Misfortune hex actually covers....
Anytime the creature makes an ability check, attack roll, saving throw, or skill check
Also, it appears by the RAW that the witch can, as long as he has a move action available and uses the Cackle ability, render a mob who fails his will save unable to do anything that requires a d20 (or at least have a severely limited likelihood of succeeding). Is this off, are there d20 rolls NOT effected by this ability?
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2011-10-26, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
A79: Technically, Concentration is neither a skill check, nor an ability check. A caster level check would be the closest thing, but that one isn't listed under the misfortune Hex.
So as written, Concentration checks are not affected by misfortune.
Cackle can continue indefinately as long as you spend move actions. It is considered a very good ability.We are not standing on the shoulders of giants, but on very tall tower of other dwarves.
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2011-10-26, 11:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Q80
Can the spell Abundant Ammunition (Ultimate Combat) be cast upon the bolt case of a Repeating Crossbow to forestall the need to reload until after the end of the spell?
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2011-10-26, 06:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Q81: Does Rapid Shot work with thrown weapons?
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2011-10-26, 06:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
A81 Yes. The feat description does not stipulate that you must use a certain type of ranged weapon.
When making a full-attack action with a ranged weapon, you can fire one additional time this round
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2011-10-27, 10:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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A80
Concurring opinion:
I actually went out to disprove that this would work and instead found this in the description of crossbow ammunition:
Benefit: Bolts come in a case or quiver that holds 10 bolts (or 5 for a repeating crossbow).
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2011-10-27, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
Q82
What ways are there in 1st party Pathfinder of changing the type of elemental damage of spells?
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2011-10-27, 02:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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There is only one way I can think of, and that is a wizard specializing in the admixture subschool of evocation.
(I'm assuming you meant "first level")Last edited by Blisstake; 2011-10-27 at 02:46 PM.
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2011-10-27, 03:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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A82 Addendum:
Actually, I don't, though that could maybe work. A level dip in wizard would put me even further behind on spells, but it technically would apply to spells gotten from other classes, right?
To clarify, no, it doesn't have to be first level. It doesn't even have to be all four elements, though elemental bloodline sorcerer is out.
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A82
Oh, hold on. By first party did you mean not 3rd party (which I believe is assumed in most requests)?
In that case, I know that Elemental Spell works as well, including rods of Elemental Spell. It's not the most efficient way, however.
One can also dip into sorcerer for the bloodline arcana of the Djinni/Efreeti/Marid/Shaitan bloodlines. (Also available at level 1)Last edited by Blisstake; 2011-10-27 at 03:55 PM.
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2011-10-27, 07:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
A82
Sorcerer bloodlines don't work as this is for a build that uses two different sorcerer bloodlines.
But thanks for the heads up on Elemental Spell. That works as well I could expect.
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A82 Clarification: You should not expect the benefits of the Admixture Evocation School powers to apply to spells received from other classes. I will admit that the wording does not explicitly state this, but as a DM I certainly would not allow it.
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2011-10-28, 05:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
Q. 83
For the Craft Alchemy skill.... when it says 'convert the gp value to the value in sp' (i.e. x10), is that the market gp value? or the 1/3 gp value of raw materials that you need to craft?Last edited by von Tortrix; 2011-10-28 at 05:23 AM.
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
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(a) Can you make a conscious (friendly) creature drink a potion? Let's say an ally is getting dangerously low on hp but they don't have any actions left to drink a potion, can you "feed" them a potion on your turn if you're adjacent to them? My gut says no, since all turns in a round basically happen at the same time and if the character is doing something else, it can't also drink a potion but the question frequently pops up and I can't find any rules for it.
(b) What kind of action is handing an item to an ally? I'd like to say it's a free action (it seems kinda like switching a weapon from one hand to the other, which is a free action) but is there an actual rule for it?Last edited by Keneth; 2011-10-28 at 05:47 AM.
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A83: The SRD says "Find the items price in silver pieces", so that would be the market price, not any other "cost".
"Pay 1/3 of the items price for the raw materials cost" is a step that comes later.Last edited by Yora; 2011-10-28 at 06:27 AM.
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2011-10-28, 07:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
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a. No. By the rules, you can only drink a potion yourself, or administer it to an unconscious creature as a full-round action. See: here under "activation."
b. To my knowledge, there are no rules for this. The closest thing I can find is "moving or maniuplating an object is usually a move action," under the combat rules.Last edited by Blisstake; 2011-10-28 at 07:42 AM.
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
A83+
Either way, it's a calculation with only multiplication and division, so it makes no difference what comes first.
Example: Item costs 20gp
Apply before the 1/3: 20 x 10 = 200 /3 = 66.666... -> 66.7
Apply after the 1/3: 20 /3 = 6.6666... -> 6.67 x 10 = 66.7
A84
(a) Yes you can, making someone friendly and conscious drink a potion is a standard action on your part (same as activating a potion normally, or if you prefer to think this way, "applying an oil" on your fallen comrade). While someone unconscious (in this case he doesn't have to be friendly, unconscious = willing) is a full action.
It's under the potions entry.
SpoilerActivation: Drinking a potion or applying an oil requires no special skill. The user merely removes the stopper and swallows the potion or smears on the oil. The following rules govern potion and oil use.
Drinking a potion or using an oil is a standard action. The potion or oil takes effect immediately. Using a potion or oil provokes attacks of opportunity. An enemy may direct an attack of opportunity against the potion or oil container rather than against the character. A successful attack of this sort can destroy the container, preventing the character from drinking the potion or applying the oil.
A creature must be able to swallow a potion or smear on an oil. Because of this, incorporeal creatures cannot use potions or oils. Any corporeal creature can imbibe a potion or use an oil.
A character can carefully administer a potion to an unconscious creature as a full-round action, trickling the liquid down the creature's throat. Likewise, it takes a full-round action to apply an oil to an unconscious creature.
(b) I don't think there's any specific rule about that, but I believe it's about the same as retrieving a stored item, so I'd say it's a move action that provokes AoO.
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Actually this isn't covered by that section. Applying an oil on someone else still doesn't make much sense in a combat situation unless the subject is unconscious or not moving. And the oil and potion are not interchangeable anyway (you can't make an oil of cure light wounds afaik). It's evident from the fact that there's no mention of who triggers an AoO, in the case of oils, it would be the one applying it but in the case of potions it would have to be both since you have to take your focus off to drink something.
Actually, unless you have the potions stashed in a backpack, it might be more akin to drawing a weapon, so a move action with no AoO on your part and a free (or maybe immediate) action for the the receiver. This seems like a really basic action though, it's gotta be defined somewhere, maybe in one of the 3e splatbooks.Last edited by Keneth; 2011-10-28 at 10:10 AM.
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A 84 additional
I can see both sides of the argument. However, in the tradition of the 3.5 Q&A thread, I'm going to suggest that this clearly isn't a simple question, and we should move the discussion to a new thread so that this one doesn't get off track.John Ling
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Re: Simple Q&A Pathfinder (By RAW) I
A83(b)+
I agree that it's weird it's not covered anywhere.
Anyway, regarding whether or not it provokes an AoO or not, I'd say it depends on how you pass the item. Passing it carefully to someone else's hand provokes, since it's quite similar to sheathing a weapon.
Simply throwing to them or similar doesn't, but the DM might require some sort of Dex check for the other person to grab the item.
In the end, unless some specific rule is found, it's a DM call.
EDIT: Some wording.Last edited by Larpus; 2011-10-28 at 10:15 AM.
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But it does make a difference in this situation because the length of time it takes it determined by this value so either
a) item costs 20gp x10 =200sp and i'd make a craft check x the DC of that particular item = Y divide 200 by Y and that is the percentage of completion for a week. and this would cost my character 6.666gp (20/3)
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b) item costs (20gp x10)/3 =66.6sp and i'd make a craft check x the DC of that particular item = Y divide 66.6 by Y and that is the percentage of completion for a week. and this would also cost me 6.666gp
i havn't drank my coffee quota for this time of the day so excuse me if this was poorly articulated.