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    Default rapier on bright background

    Have you noticed how Elan's rapier looks on a bright background? I'd say it really needs a border.

    It's hard to notice -- on a glance, you see a drawing error in the walls behind, and only upon a closer look you see that the rapier is there.

    Everything else in the comic that's not an effect (smoke, etc) or a texture of an existing surface (like hair), has a black rim. Rich, could you please add one, even if very thin?
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    It doesn't really bother me, I noticed it just fine.

    One thing you have to rmember is that Rich draws these panels out on a much larger scale so they can be printed for the books. In the books it is easier to notice the small details and it's one of the reasons I buy them.

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    I see that the presence or lack of ambient light makes quite a difference -- so if you're viewing it in a dark room, both the background and the rapier get relatively brighter and so meld together.

    I quite fail to see what difference would paper vs screen make (except the inability to read a book in the dark)... it's not about the size of individual pixels, but about low contrast between regions.
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    It's look noticeable to me.
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    Default Re: rapier on bright background

    Quote Originally Posted by Castamir View Post
    Have you noticed how Elan's rapier looks on a bright background? I'd say it really needs a border.

    It's hard to notice -- on a glance, you see a drawing error in the walls behind, and only upon a closer look you see that the rapier is there.

    Everything else in the comic that's not an effect (smoke, etc) or a texture of an existing surface (like hair), has a black rim. Rich, could you please add one, even if very thin?
    I can see it just fine, maybe your computer is set at a different contrast to other people?

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    It's not possible to add a border to such a small object. The line is only 2 pixels wide. If Rich added a 1 pixel thick border, it would double the size of the object.
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    Default Re: rapier on bright background

    Easy solution: Colour it green - it'll also look cooler in the final fight.

    Seriously: No problem here with how it's done.

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    I too have to say I don't have any problems seeing it.

    My problem lies in how it's drawn. I know it's stick figure art, but I would still like a... I don't know, a pointy end to it. It's just a line. But this is seriously not that big a deal to me. It looks okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castamir View Post
    Have you noticed how Elan's rapier looks on a bright background? I'd say it really needs a border.
    I'm pretty sure a border would be really distracting or so thin it'd be pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castamir View Post
    I quite fail to see what difference would paper vs screen make (except the inability to read a book in the dark)... it's not about the size of individual pixels, but about low contrast between regions.

    Simply put, computer screens use additive(RGB) color while the book would be using print(CMYK) color. This can have a substantial impact on color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castamir View Post
    Have you noticed how Elan's rapier looks on a bright background? I'd say it really needs a border.
    A rapier with a border becomes a sword.

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    I can see the rapier just fine. It is supposed to be thin.
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    It's just a line.
    If two-dimensional lines physically existed and could be created from a difficult-to-break material, it would be the sharpest object on the planet.
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    Either that or they'd just glide through any 3D material as they had a cross section of 0 to interact with that matter.
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    Default Re: rapier on bright background

    well, i imagine if you made it in the right way and used it right you would still be able to do some harm, disrupt vital organs, etc... If it existed, it's still physically there, if you stabbed someone in the heart or neck or head it could cause trouble since it would be very much solid.


    With that said, it could also just be like dividing by zero and cause a hole to be ripped in the fabric of reality, but technically that would still fulfill it's purpose of ruining someones day...
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    This is the best argument ever.
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    Yeah or you could just go back to the this type of rapier

    Just the black line if it means that much to you.
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    Yeah or you could just go back to the this type of rapier

    Just the black line if it means that much to you.
    But gray is this seasons black.

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    What if there's a BLACK BACKGROUND!
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    Yeah or you could just go back to the this type of rapier

    Just the black line if it means that much to you.
    But then Sabine would notice it, and it would be iron.

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    What if there's a BLACK BACKGROUND!
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    The only way to solve this is to create a new color, never seen before in the history of the world! Paint the sword that, then make sure it never comes back into existence anywhere else!
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    Maybe if it alternated between gray and black?

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    Quote Originally Posted by npc revolution View Post
    Maybe if it alternated between gray and black?
    It's a quantum rapier. It is simultaneously both gray and black.
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    Yeah maybe we could just put it in a box where it is simultaneously either black or gray in it's box after any given time.
    But only chooses one color as a result of the background when it's opened.

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    Just, like... just saying you guys...

    We uh, we have had a rapier with a border before.

    But yeah I also think it's probably fine and it doesn't need to change. But like, y'know, just saying.
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    Since it's a magic rapier, shouldn't it be.... THE COLOR OF MAGIC?!
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    So... luminous greenish purple?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castamir View Post
    Everything else in the comic that's not an effect (smoke, etc) or a texture of an existing surface (like hair), has a black rim.
    That's not even accurate. Just off the top of my head, there is V's belt, Malack's amulet, Durkon's amulet, Xykon's phylactery, and Dorukan's headband. Not to mention the recent sandal straps and victory string. Also, the term you are looking for is outline, not "rim".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goosefarble View Post
    Just, like... just saying you guys...

    We uh, we have had a rapier with a border before.

    But yeah I also think it's probably fine and it doesn't need to change. But like, y'know, just saying.
    That actually looks closer to a Sabre to me...

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    Default Re: rapier on bright background

    Sabres aren't in the core rules though- and the 3.5 PHB Rapier artwork shows a similar hilt, and a fairly wide blade.
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