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2011-10-31, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
this, I can help with!
Have you ever read Calvin and Hobbes? If so, do you remember how every now and again, the sketches got all serious and realistic and such?
Pick a pony with distinct features who isn't Pinkie Pie (because let's face it- that hair.) and draw that pony in FiM style.
Then draw that pony in Serious Calvin & Hobbes style.
Then draw that pony in SinFest style (SinFest dot net; language, but not as bad as you'd think. It lampshades itself constantly)
Then draw that pony in an amine style (I'd suggest Arcana dot keenspace don't com I think).
Then draw that pony in G1/G2 style.
It's tedious, but it will help you get a feel for what details are important when. And it sounds bunkum, but it's the first step I took to be able to go "line, line, circle, curve, flick- complete human face".
Line work doesn't have to outline everything you see that's distinct; that's coloring's job. Line art should be able to evoke a sense of depth with as few lines as possible. Or as few white spaces as possible, considering standard meme faces. Me gusta!
And Diego, the proportion issues are the head. It's too small; it should be bigger. No necessarily longer, but bigger. The circle you use? Experiment with increasing it's size. Alternately, reducing the barrel-ness of the chest. The pony should be self consistent, and it looks like the head and everything else are on different scales.
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2011-10-31, 10:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
I did some pony-related drawing today, for my Nightmare Night costume.
First, I made an eye. My initial plan for mounting it was to stick it to my face with spirit gum, but I couldn't find any. When I finally got to school and nopony knew who the hell I was (okay, two people did), I decided that the hipster glasses were perfect.
SpoilerI actually really like how it turned out. It's the first thing I've put serious effort into drawing in years, so I found it quite surprising.
Next, I would need a cutie mark. I ended up throwing this together with just a gray marker, but it worked.
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And now, the completed package. I took this one at home, and my camera decided to focus on the edge of my desk.
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That wasn't my only costume for today/night. My buddy Waffles and I went as Andy Samberg and Justin Timberlake.
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IT'S MY...
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This is where the Magic happens.
Finally, my pumpkin.
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Betcha can't guess my favorite pony?I have a band!
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2011-11-01, 01:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Vorpalbob is now best pony.
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2011-11-01, 02:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Last edited by Vorpalbob; 2011-11-01 at 02:05 AM.
I have a band!
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2011-11-01, 02:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-11-01, 06:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
And here's my day 2 pony. This time, I've done Pinkie Pie.
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Looking back at it, I made a few of those lines too light. *Shrugs* I could have done a better job on the head, it does look a little squashed. I like her mane though. Again, advice appreciated. Let's see if I can keep up a pony a day.Thanks to Skeppio for my avatar.
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2011-11-01, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
QFT. That was awesome, Vorpal! You should totally post more stuff!
The mane looks great! It really captures the bounciness present in the show. My advice regarding the head and body would be to pull up a reference and once you've got a rough circle shape to locate your head, use the reference to figure out the relative sizes and shapes of the body and legs by comparison. That may help to keep things from looking squashed.This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
Ponythread Learns to Draw!
SpoilerBleeeeh! Alfalfa Monster!
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2011-11-01, 03:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
You're right. Now that I look at it again, the legs do seem a bit thin. Unfortunately, at this point, it might be more trouble than it's worth to try to fix.
Eeep! But, I'm not any good; I'm not! This digital art thing doesn't even require any skill; it's just fiddling around with the lines and shapes until it looks right.
Also, Thanqol linked to some pony tutorials earlier, and I can't recommend this one enough.
Nothing but the greatest, of course.
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Next time: I'm bringing you something out of Jade and Midnight's secret dossier. (KIDDING!!!!!)Last edited by Vent Reynolt; 2011-11-01 at 03:10 PM.
"Why is it that we receive a penny for our thoughts, but have to put in our 2 cents?"
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Fluttershy in the Playground - third place
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2011-11-01, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
This is how I draw everything! And I don't do any digital work. You just make the first lines light enough that you can go back and erase them. You just draw, erase, redraw and repeat!
Next time: I'm bringing you something out of Jade and Midnight's secret dossier. (KIDDING!!!!!)This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
Ponythread Learns to Draw!
SpoilerBleeeeh! Alfalfa Monster!
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2011-11-01, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
I'm only going to post it here because this section disappears from the OP:
Art Challenges
SpoilerMyLP Challenge:
Do you want to try your hand at something fun? Feeling need to draw fanart? How about trying MyLP Challenge?
What it is? Just click on the linked template.
How does that work? Don't be scared, just complete the template to the best of your ability. Have one two three four examples made by other ponies
Starting thread and more examples can be found here.
...Maybe it can be worked into OP of this thread in some form, if it's still useful?Come one, come all! GitP MLP Steam Group is open!
Current location of the last MLP Thread OP, too.
Want to ask me something? Use MAIL or message me on Steam!
"Well, the Great and Powerful Trixie can't actually transport you to Equestria... But!
The Great and Powerful Trixie can beat you over the head until you think that's what happened!"
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2011-11-01, 06:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
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2011-11-01, 07:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
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Ponythread Learns to Draw!
SpoilerBleeeeh! Alfalfa Monster!
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2011-11-01, 08:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Woah, a draw thread, that's cool. Nice to see people getting together to get better at stuff (:
I guess I should participate a bit...Mostly giving advice I guess, although I can't draw myself. I guess I can colour fairly well though, so if anyone wants advice specifically on that I can offer it.
Speaking of which, here's my best WIP at the moment, out of the...5 or so I have going :-/
Link because it's very large
I currently have a massive art block stopping me from finishing it...But anywho...
I guess I might occasionally colour stuff from this thread if I want, but I likely won't do requests. If you don't want me to colour your stuff, just say so and I'll steer clear.
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2011-11-01, 08:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
"Why is it that we receive a penny for our thoughts, but have to put in our 2 cents?"
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I got an award!
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Fluttershy in the Playground - third place
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2011-11-01, 08:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Dispo, you are so incredible me giving you advice would seem to veer uncomfortably towards Art of the Dress territory.
However! I am still on the Paint Tool SAI trial, which you recommended to me, and I'm gradually coming to like it more. What tools are you using to colour this? I think I see the acryllic brush for the mane and some of the details, and water for additional shading? Or is that just a more transparent acryllic/blur tool? Also, do you do basic paintfill with additional detail/shading on top or do you colour it all in by hand?
Oh wait, I remember that you linked me to a video of you drawing at some point which I totally forgot to save the link to; could you relink me?
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2011-11-01, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Pfft, advice is always appreciated, or at least mistakes you think you see, or where you think it can be improved. Pretty much anything like that :P
I do multi-method shading these days...Normally building on each other. I normally block shading out with the water tool on simple circle and mostly default settings. Then I'll refine it with the brush, normally on rough vertical to refine lines and show the darkest shading. Then I'll go and do some random brush stuff, normally with bristle or some of the similar painterly brushes to do more detail work. It kind of depends...I'm still experimenting a lot, and I'd advise you do that too, it's one of the better ways to learn.
Oh, and I work completely on one layer for each thing. Or multiple if multiple colours are involved, but then flatten them down when I'm doing the detail shading. So for rarity, her eyes are one layer, glasses another, then mouth, hair, and body being all the layers. So 5 for the image. Sometimes I keep eyes on two layers, but it depends. But that's just me...So yeah, like I said, experiment.
As for my videos, they're on my youtube page. The Twilight one is the only one I did in SAI though. Haven't uploaded the others yet since they're all kinda awful or incomplete :P
Oh, and I do flats with a combination of the pen tool and the bucket. Depending on my mood.
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2011-11-01, 10:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Do. Not. Wanna.
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Here >>
Happy Leo? I drew you >>
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This is my favorite so far. I like the legs: I'm not even gonna bother with faces anymore till I get the body shape down.
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Smaller one, just more body practice.
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2011-11-01, 11:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yay! A wild Brazen Shield has posted!
The legs in the last picture are looking pretty good; you definitely got a lot of the curve in them down. My suggestion if you want to try focusing on ponies without worrying about details is to try sketching the dress forms from Art of the Dress - they don't have manes or tails to worry with (I know I mentioned this in the IRC, but I thought I'd post it in case others might want to try the idea out).This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
Ponythread Learns to Draw!
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2011-11-01, 11:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, enough drawing. Time to go Work on my NaNoWriMo Novel... Muwaha. Oh, I'll come back and look over artwork too, if you guys like. =)
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2011-11-02, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
And now for some Rarity:
Line by Line, Drawing it Together
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Based on this:
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Thoughts:
I went back and forth between loving and hating this as I drew. I think that my big successes were getting the curly bits in the mane down, and capturing some of the dynamic pose of the original.
On the other hand, I wonder if my proportions weren't off in places, and my pace was kind of slow on this one.This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
Ponythread Learns to Draw!
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2011-11-02, 01:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
This is related to my next project:
If Calvin were a pony, what would Hobbes be?
In the meantime, here is my first attempt at drawing a full pony.
I cheated: It's a filly
Please keep in mind, this is the only thing I've drawn in three years that I've actually put serious effort into, other than that eye, but that's just an eye.
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And now, my feeble efforts.
SpoilerThe picture just felt lacking, so I added the amp for fun, and did some shading on the mane and tail.
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I have a band!
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2011-11-02, 02:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Smartypants!
In the meantime, here is my first attempt at drawing a full pony.
I cheated: It's a filly
Please keep in mind, this is the only thing I've drawn in three years that I've actually put serious effort into, other than that eye, but that's just an eye.
Reference picture
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And now, my feeble efforts.
SpoilerThe picture just felt lacking, so I added the amp for fun, and did some shading on the mane and tail.
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2011-11-02, 02:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
I have a band!
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2011-11-02, 05:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
You're using lingo I don't understand about a particular branch of art I really want to get into and I hate you both for making it sound so easy.
I hate you with the fury of a half-eaten slice of french
Toast.
Seriously though! Dispo does good work, and Thanq's skin tone is getting there. The performed gulf between us is insane... I need to start throwing money in a jar and harassing Jade so I can get a desktop and catch up.
Fabulous.
The dynamism excels,
Here. I love this Rarity. For proportions, he legs are too long; too much up and down. Since her legs are splayed, she should be closer to the ground. It took me a minute of looking at pic and reference at the same time though, to pin down what I thought was wrong.
Oh my goodness that pose... That pose! That pose.
Yes Rarity, yes. Yes you are awesome.
*k-sleep*
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2011-11-02, 05:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Athaniar; 2011-11-02 at 05:33 AM.
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2011-11-02, 06:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Thanks to Skeppio for my avatar.
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2011-11-02, 06:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
It may be accurate to your avatar, but the design gives the impression that his forelegs and wings are attached to the same joint, i.e. the human equivalent of arms growing out of the abdomen. Otherwise, fairly decent. Good job on the armor details, and nicely done facial expression, too.
And here's what I've been (and still am) working on:
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It's (going to be) a title page for a fanfic, this one, to be precise. (FiMFiction link) It's a Dwarf Fortress/MLP crossover collaborative fic-in-the-making, with my part of the collaboration being the art assets and the occasional editing remark.
As a sort of an experiment, I tried using a non-smoothed 1px brush to do the final lines, and.. well, it's not my tool. (the current character guidelines are the result) I'm redoing the lines with my usual smoothed 1px brush, and in the meantime I'd like some kind of suggestions for improving the background/scenery. There's no helping the perspective at this point, but I'd like to get as much of what can still be fixed as possible done right.
Some things I can point out myself - such as that the house designs are atrocious (even disregarding the sketchiness) and are channeling rural Russia instead of whatever it is Ponyville homes are supposed to be. I'll be fixing that shortly. I'm fairly sure the scenery is also wrong for the specific place the view is supposed to represent, the grass is extraneous, etc.
So, any suggestions?Bearer of the Psionic Flame
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2011-11-02, 08:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Hm, yes, I see how it could give that impression (even though it was not intended to look that way). I'll have to think about clarifying that in further works. Thank you both, though. For the pattern on the armor I was going for something "aerial".
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2011-11-02, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
Well, it's swirly, so works as "aerial", I guess. I think the last time I tried to draw engraved armor it was this lil' thing:
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Aand since I'm pulling up old pencilled robots, here, have a few more:
SpoilerLaser-headed robot dinosaur motorcycle!
Two iterations of a character from my first RTD:
The player team from the aforementioned RTD game doing something they didn't quite get around to doing after all.
Bonus points if you can identify the BattleMech.Last edited by Sean Mirrsen; 2011-11-02 at 08:53 AM.
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2011-11-02, 11:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ponythread Learns to Draw! Together!
I'm with Thanqol on this, the picture is excellent, first attempt or no, and there's not really anything wrong with the line work.
We will be watching your career with great interest!
Yeah, I'm not a fan of how the legs turned out overall. I think I made them too skinny and not splayed out enough vs. the original pose. Your suggestion about length is also helpful. I'm going to try and focus on hoof proportions and height more in my next one.
This looks pretty accurately like your avatar. I might suggest adding more swoop to the tail, but nothing else really stands out.
The hair again is very well done! The legs seem small though, especially in comparison to the body. Notice how compact AJ's body is in the reference, and how curvy the lines are that define her pose; if you can capture that, you're 90% there with the expression.
I'm afraid I don't have enough landscape experience to suggest anything you haven't already pointed out, but I really like the way it's shaping up!
I'm really curious: how did you come up with the details on all those robot pictures? I love them, but I have no idea how I'd draw something similar; it seems so complicated...This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
Ponythread Learns to Draw!
SpoilerBleeeeh! Alfalfa Monster!
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