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Pretty much why I started. I suspect, now that I'm long gone from high school, people wouldn't actually shout open insults at me anymore, but I really don't feel like dealing with the silent scorn either.
Winter clothes are awesome that way
Not sure why someone would want to lick a woman's legs or armpits, thoughSpoiler
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The hair stuck in one's teeth alone is a bit of a damper on festivities.
And if you knew then why did you express consternation?
Well, I don't want to get too explicit or anything, but foreplay comes to mind. The inner and rear thigh are a lot less "out there" than the foot, and foot fetishes are not all that uncommon as far as kinks go as far as I've seen on the subject.
Not so much the armpits though, but, come to think of it, there are some things there that would be mutually pleasant that thick, long hair or coarse stubble would prevent or diminish. More the back, arms, and legs, really.
Especially the back and the back of the neck.
And face, but that's facial hair rather than body hair.
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I will say that shaving or not has never mattered to me much one way. The only bad thing about not shaving is when someone who has been stops, and spends a couple days all scratchy and itchy.
Not sure why someone would want to lick a woman's legs or armpits, though
Edit: Ladies, gentlemen, and others... I am calling for a reverse boycott. A boycott of a boycott. And the awesome thing about this is that you get to eat lots of cookies.
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I don't shave facial hair because I don't like how it feels, but I do trim it short every few days because I don't like it when it starts getting long, especially because I can't grow a full beard yet.
I don't shave other kinds of hair because I don't like how it feels (yes, I have the experience to state that) and the aesthetic value is completely lost when I never wear anything other than cargo pants and a t-shirt.
So I'm gonna buy Girl Scout cookies for the first time this year.Jude P.
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2012-01-11, 07:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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On TV-series and LGBTA:
SpoilerOK, we have discussed that horrible new series, Work It, by the same folks who brought Friends. We have discussed how Community has only one gay character to our knowledge, and sadly that one character is a weirdo.
So lets bring up positive examples!
Murdoch Mysteries is IMHO a brilliant TV-series about the scientific police detective William Murdoch of the Toronto constabulary in the 1890s. While none of the recurring characters is LGBTA (to our knowledge), episodes have dealt with female cross-dressing in secret clubs (the victim being a transman, though not mentioned as such, but as someone who tried to live as a man), prosecution and blackmailing of gay men (and their secret clubs), feminist issues (the medical examiner is a woman, and one episode was about how abortion was a crime back then), eugenics, racism etc. It's interesting how Murdoch while being progressive for his time, is also a devoted Catholic and the show lets that have consequences. (In one episode he's passed on an promotion because of anti-Papist prejudice. As for the abortion episode and his views in it, watch it/google it.) It also doesn't shy away from the consequences of the less-than-enlightened laws back then.
My nephew:
SpoilerDuring the latter part of the Christmas holidays, I heard from my mother, who then had just had a call from my sister. She told our mother that her - three year old - son wanted to try nail tint, as he had seen his mother having it. My sister obliged him. Later when they were outside, my nephew asked for cotton gloves. "Why do you need those?" my sister asked. "I don't want others to get jealous at my painted nails."
Que in "aaaawwwwws" from my parents and I. I was surprised that my dad didn't have issues with it.
I don't mind female body hair.EspeciallyIncluding pubic hair. That just show you are mature, IMHO. I'm frankly annoyed at the sex enlightment/education association here, because they have started their own products for shaving genitals and pubic hair. IMO they should educate people to be more okay with body hair, not make them more influenced by the porn industry. Even if I did mind hair, I'd still think it would be up to the individual (woman or man).
I just thought something about how hairy legs signify maleness in comics and cartoons (except for the first Robins -****Richard Grayson and Jason Todd - in Batman), and non-hairy legs signify feminity. Kinda like how eyelashes signify feminity in comics and cartoons (except for Mighty Mouse - many kids were confused, I've read). Most striking example I can think of is when the Beagle Band in Disney comics some times cross-dress in order to hide their identities, they keep "forgetting" to shave their legs so it's obvious to the readers that they're (still) male. (Why they just don't dress in pants instead of skirts is another question, since modern Disney comics do have females who dress in pants. Then again, I suppose it would have been confusing for the kids - who we always have to think of! - if the Beagle Band had been able to pass as femmes. #Immareadingtomuchintothis
I wouldn't mind. Armpits may seem odd, but legs seem quite natural to me, like, I dunno, feet. #ToomuchinformationLast edited by H Birchgrove; 2012-01-11 at 08:43 PM. Reason: Grammar
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So um... for my Global Peace and Justice midterm exam (it's the mandatory tenth grade history course at my Quaker school) part of it was to write an essay about a Non-violent Direct Action Campaign you would like to start, and how you go about it. Mine was about LGBT issues, but instead of dealing with marriage and laws and all that jazz, I did something else.
I argued that there is no such thing as inequality, and that it is just an illusion in the minds of the heteronormative community. My campaign was called the Understand Equality Campaign, and instead of fighting for equality, we would be fighting for the understanding that we always have been equal and that it is the illusion of the heteronormative community that has caused them to create laws and beliefs to back up said illusion.
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I don't have any proof myself (and the forum where I could find it again is rather hostile) but I saw at least minor evidence that at least some of the disparity in pay between men and women is based on what jobs they go in for; more women go in for teaching positions than law enforcement, for example (and totally pulled from my bum) and I'm fairly certain law enforcement pays more.
So I suppose it's a bias of women picking 'women's jobs' because they want them and/or feel they are better suited. Whiiiiiich I just noticed doesn't really add anything new to the discussion at all. Hm.
Let the coffee enter the bloodstream, then pretend I know what I'm talking about. Got it.
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As has been said, selective muscle growth would help. Work the glutes and hips to even out the bottom half, and the legs to make it look natural.
You can also gain a little bit of weight by eating right before you go to sleep, something kinda junky but not too malicious on the body. PB&J sandwich is what I was given as a suggestion.
Also, when I shave, it tends to leave behind a five o' clock shadow. Is this just because it's been a while since I've shaved, and it'll go away so long as I keep my shaving consistent?
Apologies for that being so disjointed; I'm not sure of I even addressed your question or not >.<
Different exercises build different muscle tissue. Fast twitch muscle fibers are shorter, thicker, produce more kick and have less overall endurance. Slow twitch muscle fiber is longer, thinner, contracts slower but has more endurance. If you look at two kinds of runners - marathon runners and sprinters - you'll see the marathon folks are wicked thin, despite such fastidious training, where sprinters have big, thick muscles for more power over shorter distances.
Generally, fewer repetitions with greater resistance will build fast twitch muscle, where slower, longer exercises with less resistance will build slow twitch muscle. Pilates, yoga and a lot of lightweight cardio exercises tend towards the latter, which is why women (who are taught that bulk is bad in all ways) tend towards these exercise styles.
Another way to flatten out the bulges is to also put on fat while gaining muscle. Don't eat healthier, exactly, jus eat more as you exercise, and you'll end up with muscle that's marbleized, instead of that chunky, cut DBZ look.
This is all gleaned from nutrition, anatomy and physiology texts, a lot of net surfing, cross referencing with physical trainers and whatever medical folks I could talk to for free, and around ten years o trying to develop physical proficiency while maintaining my girlish figure. It is not actually medical advice though, so take this with salt. All of the salt.
I just want to point out that to the best of my studying, you can't really target fat loss. A well endowed lady who does hundreds o sit-ups every day will also lose weight from her bust and thighs and gluteus and such, because the body pulls from everywhere to fuel itself.
That being said, more muscle mass tends to cause higher calorie burn, and specifically from the fat attached to that area/muscle. Crunches probably won't help you get rid of cutaneous belly fat specifically, but they will make your and burn more ab-fat specifically.
Hm. And now I wonder if there is a difference in testosterone output between fast- and slow-twitch muscle fiber... I'll have to look into that.
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Also, it's an exercise that doesn't build muscle. That's a bad thing, whether the exercise is itself beneficial or not.
Similarly, exercises that strain the whole of the muscle unit, as well as the tendons, can actually be more beneficial. Because every fiber is engaged and you aren't just glutting the belly of the muscle, the overall output is much higher, with a smaller change in size otherwise. It also builds proprioception, which is a fancy term for coordination.
Really, no exercise is bad for you unless you go overboard. Such as marathon runners, some of whine actually end up with muscle cells turned inside out from training, or idiots like me who press a weak point to the point of cardiac distress.
I always thought you weren't supposed to brush or comb your hair too vigorously while it was wet, as it would stretch and become prone to breakage. But I have insanely curly curls, so maybe only my hair reacts that way. *shrug*Last edited by SiuiS; 2012-01-11 at 09:04 PM.
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This seems to be in agreement with the idea of natural law.
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My sister was once threatened with firing for not shaving her legs. In a job that consisted of her sitting behind a desk, and noone seeing her legs.I think Modern Family has to be up there. They have a relatively realistic gay couple, who are genuinely likeable and good people (mostly...). They have "gay problems", "problems that arise because of being gay", and simply "problems".
edit: SMBC does it again.Last edited by Serpentine; 2012-01-11 at 10:22 PM.
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That's adorable.
SpoilerGood point... That makes sense, considering that they have to metabolize before they can fuel anything...
That being said, more muscle mass tends to cause higher calorie burn, and specifically from the fat attached to that area/muscle. Crunches probably won't help you get rid of cutaneous belly fat specifically, but they will make your and burn more ab-fat specifically.
Similarly, exercises that strain the whole of the muscle unit, as well as the tendons, can actually be more beneficial. Because every fiber is engaged and you aren't just glutting the belly of the muscle, the overall output is much higher, with a smaller change in size otherwise. It also builds proprioception, which is a fancy term for coordination.
Really, no exercise is bad for you unless you go overboard. Such as marathon runners, some of whine actually end up with muscle cells turned inside out from training, or idiots like me who press a weak point to the point of cardiac distress.
[I always thought you weren't supposed to brush or comb your hair too vigorously while it was wet, as it would stretch and become prone to breakage. But I have insanely curly curls, so maybe only my hair reacts that way. *shrug*
In all fairness, said lock wouldn't have gotten that knot in it if I hadn't scrubbed the shampoo in like I normally do and the comb itself just glides through the hair almost frictionlessly (it's always lubricated, either by conditioner or running water with conditioner mixed in it).
Also, thanks for mentioning so many things. I learned a lot, and now I have a basic idea of what I should actually be doing to lose more weight (without my legs and forearms looking weird, I mean).
SpoilerI seem to have gained a degree of control over my voice... Sadly, it's only a degree.
To me, my voice is starting to sound like a fairly-high-pitched male voice, but after recording and listening to it on my phone... I sound like a normal male of my age. Stupid harmonics.
At least I made progress - a month ago my voice was locked into the 'deepest' setting, and it was low enough to sound indistinct at the volume I speak at. Now I just sound slightly annoyed.
It'll be neat if I can keep the old voice in reserve, though - when I finally gain access to reasonably-high octaves, I could drop to deep for the dramatic effect.
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Cookies! I want!
But I don't think I have ever seen girl scouts selling cookies, despite the apparent existence of both Danish and American ones in this very city.
I must solve this mystery!
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Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
I've had it creeping up on me for days now. The mood swings, the increasing libido, what have you. And all of a sudden, I realize it's my time of the month again and I desperately want a cute guy with infinite stamina right here RIGHT NOW!
This is getting out of hand. Apart from my current strategy (gay erotica and motorized implements of various sizes and shapes) does anyone have a suggestion for how to deal with this without risking venereal disease?
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Hair:
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I don't know what that means!
I wouldn't go so far as "outraged". And, well, maybe I'm wrong here, but I don't personally know anyone who actually likes women to be 100% hairless. I'm not saying someone who does like little pubic hair has those tendencies. I'm just saying society, as a whole, pushes women to be hairless and pushes people who are attracted to women to like hairlessness or see it as the norm. And I think that's weird and a bit icky because it results in women removing evidence that they are mature adults. Everything about this is pretty complex, and I don't blame anyone, whether ciswoman or transwoman, or gynosexuals of any stripe, for buying into it, and I know I certainly buy into a lot of it. I'm just saying I think that removing a sign of adulthood and sexual maturity being seen, intentionally or not, as not only attractive and sexy but positively the norm, but only for one gender? That doesn't sit right with me.
I kind of feel sorry for the girl who wants to boycott the cookies. Apparently she's terrified that sneaky teenage boys are compromising her safety by pretending to want to be girls. Also, I bet she'd be pretty upset if GSUSA did demand "proof" that she was a girl.
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Is it weird of me that I just imagined Steve Irwin sneaking through a rainforest saying something like, "Oh, look at that beauty. That's a rare Striped Gynosexual."
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Hair:
SpoilerAn interesting perspective. But it's not just body hair, is it? Big eyes, small hips, baby smooth skin, and for Hollywood at least, rather small boobs.
I'm not sure if it's an anti-fat movement or the infantilization (we could call it "idealization of youth"), but I realized some day that the everyday women who most often resemble the beauty ideal in body type are around 14 years old. That's pretty messed up.
There's a long way to actual pedophilia, and the "youthful beauty" ideal is by no means a new one. But it's still a little weird.
Also, part of the reason I really don't understand the aversion to hair is because my boyfriend is pretty fuzzy, and I like that. It's fun to play with, and there's nothing icky about it. He's just my big teddy bear *
But then again, I don't go into an "ewwwww" frenzy if I find hair in my food, either (seriously, is it that much grosser than hands?). So maybe I'm just weird.
* Wait, "bear" may be a wrong word to use in this crowd... XDSpoiler
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... isn't all this about a 7-year-old? And yeah, my first thought on hearing the demand for proof of gender was, "What? Mandatory genital checks for all prospective girl scouts? Regardless of age?" Though in retrospect a needle-stick and a lab fee for a chromosone-check might be an alternative... still ridonkulous.
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Hair of hairness
SpoilerI am not an expert at all, being a Kobold, but it might not be as odd if you look into human evolution.
I forgot the term, was busy being QueerKitty, but humans are among the animals who have evolved to keep traits that would otherwise only appear before maturity. In this case, less hair, the general facial structure and being silly. :3
Interestingly, cats and dogs have a similar thing going due to human preferences. Which mean that cats look adorable to manipulate you to get worshipped.
MWAHAHAHAHA!
I think she is associating the experience of finding people who understand you with groups limited to one gender and concluding that mixing them will ruin it.
Which sounds upside down to QueerKitty, ergo it is so. Meow. :3
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I don't get it.
I think the word is neoteny. Like those salamanders that keep their gills into adulthood (but which can, I believe, in some conditions, develop into adults without keeping their external gills (ew bad commas)). There was some story by someone about how if humans lived longer they'd eventually "mature" into apes. Huxley, maybe? I also feel like this has come up in these threads before a few iterations back.Jude P.
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I think she is associating the experience of finding people who understand you with groups limited to one gender and concluding that mixing them will ruin it.
Which sounds upside down to QueerKitty, ergo it is so. Meow. :3
I'm going to be optimistic about human nature here, and assume that it's 95% baseless paranoia and 5% cynical fearmongering. There's a world of difference between one Y chromosome haver who claims "I feel like a girl now" to get into the girls' shower, and another has been living as a girl since the beginning of the year. It's slippery slope nonsense at its unreasonable best.
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Unrelated to all current topics:
Boyfriend's arrived at the hospital today for his mammectomy+hysterectomy tomorrow. He didn't want me - or anyone else - visiting him (he thinks he'll be cranky and a lot more asocial than usual, which I can't blame him for). I'd have liked to see him after the surgery, but well. He's also likely to be too tired/drugged to give me reassuring news right away.
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Clearly the solution to everything is to binge on Girlscout cookies.
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Musashi: Leave flowers, a card, a book, and/or snacks. (GSCs would be a lovely touch.) He's going to be grouchy and dazed from the whole ordeal, but hospitals are also lonely. A little something to brighten up the place when he wakes up would be very handy.
Otherwise, I hope you're on good terms with his family. (This being a subset of "I hope he's on good terms with his family".) It's ridiculous for him to have to support you through this, but it is stressful for you and everyone else close to him. That's when his extended support group annoys the snot out of each other to leave a zero-pressure ring around him.