Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)

[LaZodiac]

Everything you said is correct. The twins are Loyd Royd and Royd Loyd, by the way.

[Morph Bark]

Everything you said is correct. The twins are Loyd Royd and Royd Loyd, by the way.

That must be utterly confusing in speech for the Japanese.

[LaZodiac]

That must be utterly confusing in speech for the Japanese.

That's basically the entire point. The twins have names so similiar one could just assume they are the same person. So I...GUESS they KIND OF foreshadowed it, a LITTLE BIT. But then you have **** like Nanana Najakoop, and Super Chunky From Hell, so you can never be sure with Bleach.

[Closet_Skeleton]

But then you have **** like Nanana Najakoop, and Super Chunky From Hell, so you can never be sure with Bleach.

Super Chunky From Hell was just a chapter title. Stop throwing it around like it was anything else. Bleach has had some ludicrous chapter titles and some ludicrous character names but they aren't the same thing.

[LaZodiac]

Super Chunky From Hell was just a chapter title. Stop throwing it around like it was anything else. Bleach has had some ludicrous chapter titles and some ludicrous character names but they aren't the same thing.

True, but from my understanding the big old hollow creature was CALLED Super Cunky From Hell, so that's why I said as such.

Nanana Najakoop is still weird though.

[jindra34]

True, but from my understanding the big old hollow creature was CALLED Super Cunky From Hell, so that's why I said as such.

Nope. Its real name is Fura. People just call it that because that was the chapter title for when it first showed up. Though it is very descriptive.

[Fjolnir]

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Damn, he got Worfed and HARD...

[Morph Bark]

Nope. Its real name is Fura. People just call it that because that was the chapter title for when it first showed up. Though it is very descriptive.

And it gets translated as "Holeer". Dafuq.

[Dante & Vergil]

And it gets translated as "Holeer". Dafuq.

Considering what the "Official" translation of Yuha Bach is, I'm not suprised, because both are horrible.

[INoKnowNames]

I can't believe this.

No, really, I can't believe it. I think -this- is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

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Mr "I'm so hot I'm burning down the entire afterlife" just got beaten.

HOW IN THE -HELL- IS ICHIGO SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO WIN!?! No freaking -way- Ichigo's stronger than Yamamoto. And what would make his Bankai any less stealabl than Yamamotos? Hell, now the enemy can use Yamamoto's Bankai... but he probably will conveniently forget about it, or consider it a dishonor to use or some bull like that.

And the flash of Aizen... that just plain seemed disrespectful.

Yeah, I might see if it sticks, but otherwise, I think I'm finally done with Bleach. That's just ridiculous.

[Maugan Ra]

I admit, I'll probably keep reading regardless. But like Zodiac (I think), it's really more out of morbid curiosity by this point. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion... Horrifying, yet strangely entrancing...

[tyckspoon]

I wish I could say I was surprised by this, but.. welp. I suspected there wasn't anything actually special protecting the Captain's bankai, just the two factors that he doesn't *need* to use Bankai for most opponents, and that the nature of the Bankai meant that almost anybody else who would try to steal it and use it would simply incinerate themselves.

Also agreed that this is getting more than ordinarily silly (and that's using the Fullbring arc as the current level for 'ordinary silly' in Bleach!)

[LaZodiac]

I admit, I'll probably keep reading regardless. But like Zodiac (I think), it's really more out of morbid curiosity by this point. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion... Horrifying, yet strangely entrancing...

Yha, that's basically it. I read this series SOLELY to find things to make fun of now. It brings a lot of comedy to our lives.

I wish I could say I was surprised by this, but.. welp. I suspected there wasn't anything actually special protecting the Captain's bankai, just the two factors that he doesn't *need* to use Bankai for most opponents, and that the nature of the Bankai meant that almost anybody else who would try to steal it and use it would simply incinerate themselves.

Also agreed that this is getting more than ordinarily silly (and that's using the Fullbring arc as the current level for 'ordinary silly' in Bleach!)

The only thing I liked about the Fullbring arc was Tsukishima, who, for a moment, turned the manga into Jojo's Bizarre Adventure with his AMAZING power that sounds, on paper, completely useless, bu in practice is utterly fantastic.

[INoKnowNames]

The only thing I liked about the Fullbring arc was Tsukishima, who, for a moment, turned the manga into Jojo's Bizarre Adventure with his AMAZING power that sounds, on paper, completely useless, bu in practice is utterly fantastic.

... I ACTUALLY WATCHED THE 13 EPISODE ANIME OF THAT DURING THE BREAK! It was... Glorious.

Though, doesn't your summary describe almost every single ability that doesn't dirrectly make the enemies fall down?

Also, about Aizen... looking back on his final -war- with everyone... is it just me, or does he give off a "Frieza" like vibe?

[LaZodiac]

... I ACTUALLY WATCHED THE 13 EPISODE ANIME OF THAT DURING THE BREAK! It was... Glorious.

Though, doesn't your summary describe almost every single ability that doesn't dirrectly make the enemies fall down?

Also, about Aizen... looking back on his final -war- with everyone... is it just me, or does he give off a "Frieza" like vibe?

Not true. Some powers in Jojo are quite obvious in how powerful they are (like say, The Grateful Dead, which ages people to death) while some powers, which ARE really, really strong, sound utterly useless (Sticky Finger's power, punching zippers into things).

Also, if you liked that, you'll love how they're making a new anime series for it, starting from Part 1 and going all the way to the end.

But yes, on topic, I DO see a sort of Frieza vibe from Aizen. An ultimate being who constantly undergoes form changes. However, unlike Frieza, Aizen quickly grew very...unthreatening. With Frieza, the heroes strait up managed to kick his ass a few times, but each time he'd pop back up. With Aizen, it was much less exciting, because the only real time someone who wasn't Ichigo inflicted damage on him, it was just an illusion.

[INoKnowNames]

Not true. Some powers in Jojo are quite obvious in how powerful they are (like say, The Grateful Dead, which ages people to death) while some powers, which ARE really, really strong, sound utterly useless (Sticky Finger's power, punching zippers into things).

Oh, no, I was refering to Bleach. Even the combat focused powers are usually boring or essoteric. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure had wicked awesome powers.

Also, if you liked that, you'll love how they're making a new anime series for it, starting from Part 1 and going all the way to the end.

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

But yes, on topic, I DO see a sort of Frieza vibe from Aizen. An ultimate being who constantly undergoes form changes. However, unlike Frieza, Aizen quickly grew very...unthreatening. With Frieza, the heroes strait up managed to kick his ass a few times, but each time he'd pop back up. With Aizen, it was much less exciting, because the only real time someone who wasn't Ichigo inflicted damage on him, it was just an illusion.

Half the time, it was because Frieza wasn't really trying. But it was -properly- established far ahead of time that the Galactic Ruler of Most of the Known Universe with a Power Level of at least a Million (in comparison to the heroes rocking somewhere in the ten thousands, with even Goku at like 200,000ish) was going to be hard to beat, releasing more energy when actually pressed.

There wasn't much reason for Aizen to have been so tough, beyond his hax illusions he didn't even really use beyond occasional mind rape. The Hogkyoku just invented random bull for him to use over time...

[LaZodiac]

The thing I like to point out the most in regards to Aizen, and infact a lot of Bleach, is that the simpler your power is, the stronger it is shown to be.

Look at the former captain, the Vizard guy that attacked Aizen. His power makes it so that whatever you see him doing, he's actually doing that same action backwards, upside down, and reversed. He succeded in doing JACK AND ALL.

Ichigo's power is that HE HITS YOU REALLY HARD. He defeated Aizen completely.

[INoKnowNames]

The thing I like to point out the most in regards to Aizen, and infact a lot of Bleach, is that the simpler your power is, the stronger it is shown to be.

Look at the former captain, the Vizard guy that attacked Aizen. His power makes it so that whatever you see him doing, he's actually doing that same action backwards, upside down, and reversed. He succeded in doing JACK AND ALL.

Ichigo's power is that HE HITS YOU REALLY HARD. He defeated Aizen completely.

What about Miss "I reject reality"? Though I shouldn't give her such a negative sounding nick name, since she's one of the few characters I love in Bleach with a burning passion.

Also, Ichigo didn't beat Aizen. He had to have 3 months of training after losing to him and being threatened with being eaten, then went and lost all his powers for Hat & Clogs to take Aizen down the way he should have like 20 chapters prior.

[LaZodiac]

What about Miss "I reject reality"? Though I shouldn't give her such a negative sounding nick name, since she's one of the few characters I love in Bleach with a burning passion.

Also, Ichigo didn't beat Aizen. He had to have 3 months of training after losing to him and being threatened with being eaten, then went and lost all his powers for Hat & Clogs to take Aizen down the way he should have like 20 chapters prior.

Orohime SHOULD be unendingly powerful, but she just...doesn't do anything with her power.

I'm pretty sure Ichigo beat Aizen himself. Didn't he get in that whole bandaged up form and what have you, and beat him with the final attack that totally made him lose his spirit power forever, it was that powerful of an attack?

[INoKnowNames]

Orohime SHOULD be unendingly powerful, but she just...doesn't do anything with her power.

At least she has a justification for it; being far too gentle to reject everyone's limbs from them, if not their own realities.

I'm pretty sure Ichigo beat Aizen himself. Didn't he get in that whole bandaged up form and what have you, and beat him with the final attack that totally made him lose his spirit power forever, it was that powerful of an attack?

Oh no, if it had actually ended like that, I wouldn't hate Bleach so badly. Aizen regenerated himself after Ichigo wasted his new strength that would have let him win and was letting him dominate the fight by using the dangerously forbidden technique that seems to have little justifiation behind it and doesn't even finish the job.

[LaZodiac]

At least she has a justification for it; being far too gentle to reject everyone's limbs from them, if not their own realities.

Oh no, if it had actually ended like that, I wouldn't hate Bleach so badly. Aizen regenerated himself after Ichigo wasted his new strength that would have let him win and was letting him dominate the fight by using the dangerously forbidden technique that seems to have little justifiation behind it and doesn't even finish the job.

Ah, must of forgotten that. Can't imagine why, it's clearly such an important plot point.

True, but she doesn't HAVE to attack. Just reject all harm. At the very least HEAL GENRYUSAI'S ARM. It doesn't matter if "his reitsu messes with the healing" as someone in the thread theorized, because she literally rewrites reality with her power. If Genryusai's reistu is so powerful he can resist a REALY REWRITE, that means he's MUCH, MUCH stronger then he appears. And considering he just recently got punked by his own sword...yha.

[INoKnowNames]

Ah, must of forgotten that. Can't imagine why, it's clearly such an important plot point.

Speaking of unmentioned plot points, where's that Spirit King who Aizen was trying to go after? He seems like he should have a say in what's going on in this war between the group that is known as the quincies and the soul reapers.

True, but she doesn't HAVE to attack. Just reject all harm. At the very least HEAL GENRYUSAI'S ARM. It doesn't matter if "his reitsu messes with the healing" as someone in the thread theorized, because she literally rewrites reality with her power. If Genryusai's reistu is so powerful he can resist a REALY REWRITE, that means he's MUCH, MUCH stronger then he appears. And considering he just recently got punked by his own sword...yha.

.... she could probably reject people's Bankai having been stolen at all, actually. Where is Orihime right now? We need her to fix... well, everything! Orihime can fix Bleach!

[tyckspoon]

True, but she doesn't HAVE to attack. Just reject all harm. At the very least HEAL GENRYUSAI'S ARM. It doesn't matter if "his reitsu messes with the healing" as someone in the thread theorized, because she literally rewrites reality with her power. If Genryusai's reistu is so powerful he can resist a REALY REWRITE, that means he's MUCH, MUCH stronger then he appears. And considering he just recently got punked by his own sword...yha.

I can't guarantee that it would still work this way if Orihime actually ever did anything again, but it was my understanding that Orihime's powers function in a way that is basically limited by her own hangups; it's not that anything truly does prevent her from healing something or destroying whatever the heck she wants, but that she is convinced that things *could* and that she is not strong enough to overcome them.. so she's not, not until what she needs to do is so important to her that it blows past all the insecurity and 'I don't want to fight!' stuff. If she were a Determinator-type, she'd be nigh-omnipotent.

[LaZodiac]

Speaking of unmentioned plot points, where's that Spirit King who Aizen was trying to go after? He seems like he should have a say in what's going on in this war between the group that is known as the quincies and the soul reapers.



.... she could probably reject people's Bankai having been stolen at all, actually. Where is Orihime right now? We need her to fix... well, everything! Orihime can fix Bleach!

She's lying unconcious next to Chad, who somehow manages to be even more useless then her : D

That's the most sarcastic smile I've ever done.

As for the Spirit King, I THINK he MAY show up in this arc. He won't, though. This would require Kubo to remember a plot point he did.

[INoKnowNames]

I can't guarantee that it would still work this way if Orihime actually ever did anything again, but it was my understanding that Orihime's powers function in a way that is basically limited by her own hangups; it's not that anything truly does prevent her from healing something or destroying whatever the heck she wants, but that she is convinced that things *could* and that she is not strong enough to overcome them.. so she's not, not until what she needs to do is so important to her that it blows past all the insecurity and 'I don't want to fight!' stuff. If she were a Determinator-type, she'd be nigh-omnipotent.

There's got to be a Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann joke in here somewhere.

She's lying unconcious next to Chad, who somehow manages to be even more useless then her : D

That's the most sarcastic smile I've ever done.

As for the Spirit King, I THINK he MAY show up in this arc. He won't, though. This would require Kubo to remember a plot point he did.

This post was particularly amusing. You're full of the funny today.

[Morph Bark]

I'm pretty sure Ichigo beat Aizen himself. Didn't he get in that whole bandaged up form and what have you, and beat him with the final attack that totally made him lose his spirit power forever, it was that powerful of an attack?

Oh no, if it had actually ended like that, I wouldn't hate Bleach so badly. Aizen regenerated himself after Ichigo wasted his new strength that would have let him win and was letting him dominate the fight by using the dangerously forbidden technique that seems to have little justifiation behind it and doesn't even finish the job.

Didn't he "beat" him by showing the Hogyoku that Aizen wasn't the strongest/didn't think of everything/whatever hax, that made it think "hm, yeah, you're not worthy of my fabulosity" or something and made it reject Aizen?

As for the Spirit King, I THINK he MAY show up in this arc. He won't, though. This would require Kubo to remember a plot point he did.

A lot of mangakas' plots are like blocks of cheese. Most don't have a lot of holes in them. Some even have no holes at all. There are some mangakas whose cheeses resemble a kind of Super Swiss that is more hole than cheese, though. Then there's Kubo, who seems to be more of a fan of a kind of brie that's practically a liquid, just barely hanging together before it'd fall apart and flow away in different directions.

[LaZodiac]

Kubo is the male, real life equivilent of that girl who designs Sakura's costumes in Cardcaptor Sakura. He's only in this for the cool costume designs.

[Starwulf]

Taking things off topic here, I had a question for you all: The anime(on Adult Swim) recently got done the fight with Ichigo and Ulquiorra, and I was wondering: Is Ulquirra actually a higher rank then 4, it's just that no-one realized it? Because of his "second release" that no other espada has and all that jazz? Just curious and all.

[darksolitaire]

Now I get it. Yamamoto getting clubbed sets the stage for development which explains are questions which have thus far remained unanswered! Spirit King and Squad 0 will both appear! We will learn all about Kurosaki Isshin and Ishida ryuuken! What is the history of Quincy? All will be revealed. Right?!

Taking things off topic here, I had a question for you all: The anime(on Adult Swim) recently got done the fight with Ichigo and Ulquiorra, and I was wondering: Is Ulquirra actually a higher rank then 4, it's just that no-one realized it? Because of his "second release" that no other espada has and all that jazz? Just curious and all.

I can with all certainty say...maybe. Ulquirra says that even Aizen didn't know about his second release, but I bet it was still all part of Aizen's plan anyway.

[Xondoure]

Taking things off topic here, I had a question for you all: The anime(on Adult Swim) recently got done the fight with Ichigo and Ulquiorra, and I was wondering: Is Ulquirra actually a higher rank then 4, it's just that no-one realized it? Because of his "second release" that no other espada has and all that jazz? Just curious and all.

I'm pretty sure we're supposed to believe that that is the implication yes.