Starting money???

[Godrednu]

I swear one time I saw a formula for how much starting money adventures get. Why can't I find it now?? Please help.

[NecroRebel]

At level 1, it's 100gp. At above that, you get 3 magic items, one each of your level, your level+1, and your level-1, and an amount of gold equal to the value of an item of your level-1.

[Katana_Geldar]

And it's in the Players Handbook under "Starting above level 1".

[Jokes]

And it's in the Players Handbook under "Starting above level 1".

I believe it's in the DMG, page 143.

[Raimun]

Also, when starting above level one, you get any non-magical gear you want. Choose wisely.

Ie. take a few everburning torches, all "+2 to skill" kits, as much silk rope as you need, a sane amount of spell and ritual books (so you can sell them) and a wheelbarrow full of local Lembas.

[Musco]

Plus the wheelbarrow. And mounts. Try to get a cart, to store loot in it (depending on your starting level, it might come up), since it also means you can probably get 2 mounts instead of one. Like Belkar would say, "Sky is the limit", as long as you can justify it. Oh, and DO get some clothes, I mean, wearing the same rags throughout the whole campaing is just... eh...

[Snowbody]

If a PC pulled that cheese in my campaign I'd have him robbed by overlevelled bandits first thing.

[Kurald Galain]

Oh, if you want shenanigans, I can do you one better: residuum is not a magical item. So you can start with an arbitrarily high amount of residuum and the Enchant Item ritual...

And yeah, if you do that you deserve a PHB to the forehead

[tcrudisi]

If a PC pulled that cheese in my campaign I'd have him robbed by overlevelled bandits first thing.

What cheese? Starting with free normal gear? It's not as if it's anywhere close to game-breaking. Most players will start with an adventurer's kit, a couple of everburning torches, enough sunrods to melt the polar ice caps, the +2 to various skills items, maybe a few changes of clothes, and that's about it.

I believe mounts are considered magical items, so they can't be picked up for free. (Hence the fact they have levels and are the same price as their magical counterparts.)

When you add all that up, it only amounts to:

15 (Adventurer's Kit)
100 (2x Everburning Torches)
100 (50x Sunrods)
2 (Climber's Kit)
20 (Disguise Kit)
50 (Hunter's Kit)
40 (Inquisitive's Kit)
5 (Snares)
50 (Sun Balm)
15 (Surveyor's Gear)
20 (Thieve's Tools)

= 417gp and 121 pounds.

For each Sunrod you think I over/under estimated by, add/subtract 2 gp and 1 pound.

So many characters have weight considerations (or will have to buy a mount to carry their stuff around).

So, really, is that game-breaking? Nah. It only gets silly if you are doing something involving the water, as then the players will pick up a sailing ship each for 10,000gp and which weighs 300,000 pounds.

[Kurald Galain]

When you add all that up, it only amounts to:

Well, there's a few more than that. But the important part here is enforcing the rule that mundane gear cannot ever be sold (because otherwise, the players may use the money to buy magical gear).

[tcrudisi]

Well, there's a few more than that. But the important part here is enforcing the rule that mundane gear cannot ever be sold (because otherwise, the players may use the money to buy magical gear).

What did I miss? (Note: I used my offline character builder and went through each non-magical item one by one, so if I missed something, I want to go in and edit it.)

But - you are absolutely correct. I have to tell all my new players that, "Yes, you can loot the mundane gear but you won't be able to sell it to anyone. They don't like used gear. It's worthless."

When you do that, I really don't see a problem with the system. Although obviously the residuum you pointed out is a loophole. But since the books give the price for how to sell residuum, I think an argument could be made that it's not truly a mundane item.

[Palegreenpants]

Some classes REALLY need more starting cash than others.
Like this Assassin I'm playing. I need, at first level:

Poisoners Kit.
Bola.
Blowgun.
Hand crossbow
Dagger.
Standard Adventuring kit.
Leather Armor.

And I would like to start with more.

[Tegu8788]

Waait, where does it say starting mundane equipment is free? If so, I've always wasted money on my paladins, heavy shield, plate armor, longsword, holy symbol, adventures pack.

[NecroRebel]

Waait, where does it say starting mundane equipment is free? If so, I've always wasted money on my paladins, heavy shield, plate armor, longsword, holy symbol, adventures pack.

In DMG1, on page 143, in the left-hand column, on the 8th line from the bottom, where it say, "Choose whatever standard adventuring gear you want from the tables in the Player's Handbook." Non-magical weapons, shields, armor, and such are standard adventuring gear in tables in PHB1, so if you're starting at above level 1, you can take whatever you want. Note that this line is before it lays out your starting gold, and after mentioning your starting gold it lists what you can spend it on, and mundane gear isn't among those things.

[Musco]

Just remember, as long as your Paladins STARTED ABOVE FIRST LEVEL you have wasted your money. Otherwise, the rules still apply, and yes, you have to buy mundane equipment with your paltry 100 starting gp.

[Ignatius]

Also, when starting above level one, you get any non-magical gear you want. Choose wisely.

Ie. take a few everburning torches, all "+2 to skill" kits, as much silk rope as you need, a sane amount of spell and ritual books (so you can sell them) and a wheelbarrow full of local Lembas.

Which book covers this rule?

EDIT: Hahah... Never Mind.. that will teach me for replying before finishing a thread!