D&D Demotivators Episode VI: Return of the JPEG

[Hiro Protagonest]

Except in Twilight Princess, where he's a Full Moon Lunar. Possibly also a kind of Lunar in Majora's Mask.

Shintai Charms.

[Morph Bark]

Shintai Charms.

I'm sorry, what? I only know the basics on Solars and Lunars, as I haven't read through any of the other books. (Aside from the Infernal one, very briefly, but it made my head spin.)

[golentan]

I'd peg Zelda as more of a Zenith, because I can't actually think of examples of her going to town with magic and magitech so much, but she has on several occasions been more of an inspirational leader and "soul" of her people in a way much more core to her character than the fact she occasionally fights by throwing bolts of light.

[Geostationary]

I'm sorry, what? I only know the basics on Solars and Lunars, as I haven't read through any of the other books. (Aside from the Infernal one, very briefly, but it made my head spin.)

Shintai Charms are the charms that let Primordials appear as infinitely large deserts, brass colossi, and the like. They let you transform into these forms and use the perks that come with being a hundred foot tall brass rage monster and the like.

[nyarlathotep]

(Aside from the Infernal one, very briefly, but it made my head spin.)

I'm sorry as someone who doesn't even really like exalted too much that you read the worst book in the line first. Okay maybe not worst but certainly most offensive and least well thought out.

[Beowulf DW]

...What have I unleashed?

I'm sorry Tygre! I didn't mean to!

[Vortling]

I've posted this here before and yet it becomes relevant again and again and again...

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[Drascin]

Shintai Charms.

Pretty sure that the methods by which Link acquires his masks are far more reminiscent of the "take a person's identity up after death" thing of Heart's Blood than of letting the power of cthulhoid inhuman monsters from beyond spacetime mutate him. Amusingly, Link's Wolf form is more Shintai-ish than his transformations in Majora's Mask.

Though really, Zelda works on completely different premises from Exalted in many ways (any game where the Master Sword exists and is what it is in Zelda is clearly not Exalted), so, you know, just do whatever, really .

Anyway, let's put some tax here:

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And one that only those who have played Dark Souls will get

[Admiral Harkov]

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This is an automated message. The user has fled in an emergency capsule aimed outside the Milky Way. Requesting clean up of ugly brown matter from the room. Also request source of the image.

Tax:

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[The Tygre]

...What have I unleashed?

I'm sorry Tygre! I didn't mean to!

Only the dead can know peace from this evil.

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[Vknight]

Hey Tygre can we get the Inevitables posters original image.

Also soon they shall come

[Cerlis]

to lazy to make it into a motivator. But my sis made this commission and I thought yall would enjoy it.

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[Cosmic Traveler]

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think about that one for a moment

[Hyena]

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[Leliel]

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[Mordokai]

Leave Johnny alone.

Ok, seriously, nobody gives a crap about Johnny, but leave his mother unrealistic armor as it is

[Dienekes]

Ehh, I must admit I greatly prefer realistic armor and weaponry. Female armor has a habit of looking so stupid and useless otherwise.

[Mordokai]

That is kinda the point of it, by the way I see it. If I want to see realistic armor, I got historic shows, books, museums, the like. But for fanservicey armor? I go to my RPG and don't you dare take that away from me on the pain of... something painful

[Dienekes]

Ahh, you see I play rpgs in part to play as those old cool historical things, and when I GM I take far more inspiration from real world cultures and wars than I do from fantasy books.

Also fanservice has always been a thing that I've never really understood. You want titillation... we're on the bloody internet, if you can't find any you're not looking hard enough. Why does it have to be tied to armor? Armor serves a purpose, it's useful, it keeps you alive. I can't help looking at female armor and just thinking 'Why?' Why would a blacksmith make something so useless? Why would a supposedly battle hardened warrior buy something so dumb? And dear God isn't that uncomfortable?

[NikitaDarkstar]

Ahh, you see I play rpgs in part to play as those old cool historical things, and when I GM I take far more inspiration from real world cultures and wars than I do from fantasy books.

Also fanservice has always been a thing that I've never really understood. You want titillation... we're on the bloody internet, if you can't find any you're not looking hard enough. Why does it have to be tied to armor? Armor serves a purpose, it's useful, it keeps you alive. I can't help looking at female armor and just thinking 'Why?' Why would a blacksmith make something so useless? Why would a supposedly battle hardened warrior buy something so dumb? And dear God isn't that uncomfortable?

Useless.. it's fantasy, if magic bracers can keep you safe you can probably apply the same thing to the plate-mail bikini. But the chafing.... ouch...

[Admiral Harkov]

I don't mind either, though at times if a film of series goes for the fanservice too often or too far I may get tired of that kind.

What really gets to my nerves is not one or the other; but those who argue in a way it's clear they're wanting to impose their liking to everyone else.

I don't see your reply poster, bighugelabs doesn't host them.

A few related (now, mind you, I don't meant that I believe everything said):

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Crunchy armor by teniacosl, on Flickr


Sonja armor by teniacosl, on Flickr


Nightdress armor by teniacosl, on Flickr

[demigodus]

A few related (now, mind you, I don't meant that I believe everything said):

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Nightdress armor by teniacosl, on Flickr

Not hypocrisy, just double standards. Would also require the person arguing for gender equality for it to be hypocrisy. And would still depend on why the person is opposed to chain mail bikinis. For example, they might argue just as hard against men going to fight in chain mail speedos...

[Tavar]

It's not a double standard: it's different situations meriting different response(in melee combat you're likely to get hit, thus you need protection, nevermind the problem of tumbling on rough ground without clothes or the like. Wizards do not have those issues as primary ones.). The arguments he made were very, very, very, very large strawmen, though.

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Big Huge Labs does not store images. Seriously, I suggest that this is made the title of the next thread and every one after that.

[RandomNPC]

Big Huge Labs does not store images. Seriously, I suggest that this is made the title of the next thread and every one after that.

There was even a poster about it a page or two ago...........

[Mordokai]

Ahh, you see I play rpgs in part to play as those old cool historical things, and when I GM I take far more inspiration from real world cultures and wars than I do from fantasy books.

Also fanservice has always been a thing that I've never really understood. You want titillation... we're on the bloody internet, if you can't find any you're not looking hard enough. Why does it have to be tied to armor? Armor serves a purpose, it's useful, it keeps you alive. I can't help looking at female armor and just thinking 'Why?' Why would a blacksmith make something so useless? Why would a supposedly battle hardened warrior buy something so dumb? And dear God isn't that uncomfortable?

Don't really know. It's just that I do. Maybe it has something to do with women in sexy armor being such a niche it's hard to find anywhere else Besides, I've always found half dressed women more sexy, in a way, than fully undressed. Imagination works that way for me. And look at those armor and tell it doesn't look like sexy lingerie, only made of steel or some other metal. You probably can't. Can't help myself but find it alluring.

And then there's that demotivator of attractive lady in real life chainmail bikini(which I won't post, since it's mildly NSFW) with a caption of something along the lines of, What if lacks in deflection, it makes up in distraction. I can easily see it working like that

[Morph Bark]

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Prolly because wizards don't have to get into melee, or they are expected to be able to protect themselves with magic, or because in some settings/systems wearing metal impedes magic use.

What if lacks in deflection, it makes up in distraction. I can easily see it working like that

Only if the attacker would be sexually attracted to them or if they'd get confused about why she isn't wearing proper armor.

[Mordokai]

This is DnD we're talking about. Everybody and everything is sexually attracted to humans

[Admiral Harkov]

Not hypocrisy, just double standards. Would also require the person arguing for gender equality for it to be hypocrisy. And would still depend on why the person is opposed to chain mail bikinis. For example, they might argue just as hard against men going to fight in chain mail speedos...

More often than not, those who argue in the shape of trying to impose are also bringing gender equality into the argument. At least in the cases I've seen, which may not actually reflect the general tendencies.

Prolly because wizards don't have to get into melee, or they are expected to be able to protect themselves with magic, or because in some settings/systems wearing metal impedes magic use.

Exactly as the fighters are expected to be protecting themselves with items enchanted with their same spells. After the starting levels, at least. I don't have P&P experience, but some NWN PWs, I've never seen any char beyond level 1 without items with pluses to armor and others; I imagine P&P isn't any different (except how much bonus can be found at each level).

We remember magic if he's a mage, let's not forget when it's a fighter with a necklace of armor +3, boots of dodge +4, the mage armor given by his or her wizard companion etc, when it's that point, everyone can go into battle naked. As long they keep the bracers, necklaces and rings and the wizard's magic just like the wizard. Adding the training to evade melee attacks which the wizard lacks.

But what?. Each one dress up his character whatever the hell he or she wants.

You like skimpy? Make your chars skimpy. Want realistic armor? Use realistic armor.

When I design the armors for my PCs in NWN I do both. When my char lacks strong equipment, the armor is realistic, thick looking plates and such; as my char gets stronger items and sets of armor with more and more enchantments, I start making designs that look less heavy and with time even somewhat skimpy to reflect the power of the enchantments has become the main source of protection over the plain material defenses.

[Science Officer]

A discussion on fantasy armour? I'm afraid I can't resist further de-railing this thread by linking the best article I've read on the subject.

[Admiral Harkov]

A discussion on fantasy armour? I'm afraid I can't resist further de-railing this thread by linking the best article I've read on the subject.

Saw it linked in another place

It doesn't feel imposing and it gives the right treatment to the Conan riposte vs Red Sonja, which isn't "oh, but if it's men with skimpy outfits it's not the same" but "no armor technology vs armor technology poorly used, were Sonja wearing fur then it'd be as fine as Conan". 10 to that article.