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Thread: My Little Pony LI: FE
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2012-08-14, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nuh-uh. LOONA
SpoilerThis is the thief who likes to hoard,
That loves the bard with the puppet Lord
That admires the fighter with the green-hilted sword,
That employs the Wizard, whose bird is ignored,
That has the gender unexplored
That intrigues the Halfling, usually bored,
That slew a mountain of the goblin horde,
That follows the cleric,
That serves the lich,
That seeks the gate,
That guards the snarl,
That lives in the prison the gods built.
guess what I was gone but now I'm back
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2012-08-14, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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There's a second chapter that I put up to meet the criteria of the challenge, but it was, frankly, not very good and ended with me written into a corner, with the girls given 2 days to create a ninth Element of Harmony and no idea how to do so. I didn't have any idea how to do it either, so I'll be sending them after a different MacGuffin this time. Let's just pretend it's a brilliant form of meta-textual irony.
Proof-reading is totally unnecessary in the digital age now that we have spell cheque.
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2012-08-14, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-14, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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the first time it took the most powerful artifacts known to ponydom. tia literally vanished when NMM showed up and she didnt have them.
same with attempt number 2.
what you call humiliation i call a legacy of being the most powerful and terrifying being short of discord.
and your tia looks like a giraffe, so take that!Last edited by thubby; 2012-08-14 at 10:09 AM.
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2012-08-14, 10:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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If brute force isn't working, that just means you're not using enough of it.
When in doubt, set something on fire. If not in doubt, set something on fire anyway.
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2012-08-14, 10:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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LotR is absolutely doable in the pony universe. It has a strong theme of working together through harsh challenges, plus they already have Minias Tirith=Canterlot.
However, looking at LotR, how would you do the death of Boromir in a pony context? Would it be a pony that rejected the rest of the group? Boromir died in the originals because he saw the error of his ways and tried to defend Merry and Pippin, but a pony seeing the error of his ways would presumably have various protections, not to mention friends that could teleport or levitate to stop arrows. Healing magic isn't really called out in the show, but Twilight was able to restore her discorded friends, so that might exist too.
Again, not saying it couldn't be done, simply that "bad things happen" is harder to do in the pony setting than first meets the eye and I think a lot of the so-called "grimdark" authors forget about that.
Geez a best pony princess argument? First, the answer is Rose/Kalina.
Second, getting owned by Pinkie Pie pretty much doesn't count since it's dictated entirely by personality, not power. Plus, Luna got her butt kicked by the elements of harmony both times, and it's hard to even say that was her rather than her crazy evil possessed self getting smacked with a macguffin that it was particularly weak against.
As I've said before, I actually like to think that Luna has just a tiny bit more magical power than Celestia if you just took both of them on a random day with no other interference. However, I think that Celestia is more willing to take on responsibility and act directly, so she might often be more capable than Luna of getting things done.
Personality-wise, I think both of them can come across as pretty scary (e.g. Luna canceling Nightmare Night and Celestia shouting out "Twlight Sparkle, Meet me in the library. Now"). I would say that Celestia seems the more stable of the two, which makes sense given her 1,000 years of ruling Equestria with peace and prosperity compared to Luna's 1,000 year banishment. On the other hand, Luna seems like the most flexible of the two. Celestia comes across as frustrated with her responsibilities from time to time, and that makes me see her as not very inventive for some reason.
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2012-08-14, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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*Crawls out of bed* forgot the goddamn horn, there's always something, always a missing leg or horn or cutie mark or ear, always something missing....
Her wings NEED to be the prettiest. It's her catchphrase.
In a world where Friendship Is Magic, being the kid without the friendship artifacts makes you the weakling. I mean, Luna knew how to use them and if she wasn't terrible at being a pretty pony princess she would have used them.
She does win the wings-are-so-pretty argument by virtue of having four, yes.
Second, getting owned by Pinkie Pie pretty much doesn't count since it's dictated entirely by personality, not power. Plus, Luna got her butt kicked by the elements of harmony both times, and it's hard to even say that was her rather than her crazy evil possessed self getting smacked with a macguffin that it was particularly weak against.
As I've said before, I actually like to think that Luna has just a tiny bit more magical power than Celestia if you just took both of them on a random day with no other interference. However, I think that Celestia is more willing to take on responsibility and act directly, so she might often be more capable than Luna of getting things done.
Personality-wise, I think both of them can come across as pretty scary (e.g. Luna canceling Nightmare Night and Celestia shouting out "Twlight Sparkle, Meet me in the library. Now"). I would say that Celestia seems the more stable of the two, which makes sense given her 1,000 years of ruling Equestria with peace and prosperity compared to Luna's 1,000 year banishment. On the other hand, Luna seems like the most flexible of the two. Celestia comes across as frustrated with her responsibilities from time to time, and that makes me see her as not very inventive for some reason.
Uh.
I'll go for the pretty pony princess with the 1,000 years of peace and prosperity on her resume.
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2012-08-14, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerThis is the thief who likes to hoard,
That loves the bard with the puppet Lord
That admires the fighter with the green-hilted sword,
That employs the Wizard, whose bird is ignored,
That has the gender unexplored
That intrigues the Halfling, usually bored,
That slew a mountain of the goblin horde,
That follows the cleric,
That serves the lich,
That seeks the gate,
That guards the snarl,
That lives in the prison the gods built.
guess what I was gone but now I'm back
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2012-08-14, 10:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-14, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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What!? Dragged through a mirror by shadowy vampire ponies to an ancient space-fortress in golden chains and you call this...
buh....whu...
What are you, some kind of Kidnapping connoisseur now?
Why you infuriating little... I could just... I'll have you...
Uh.
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Yeah, okay, I guess I didn't think this through at all, did I?
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Apparently, it turns out I really like her mane.
It's surprisingly fun to paint.Last edited by Tiki Snakes; 2012-08-14 at 11:07 AM.
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2012-08-14, 10:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Are you deliberately trying to annoy me, Thanqol?
All I'll say is that NMM (as opposed to Luna) apparently had no clue how the Elements worked. Why this is so is a good question which suggests that the two are not entirely the same mind, and it does make it impossible to say how Luna (as opposed to NMM) would have acted. We can speculate, but that's all it'll be.
I suspect Boromir would not be a unicorn, nor would Merry and Pippin, thus no magic. Also whatever they would face instead of orcs might have had wings and/or magic too. If the ponies have access to these things then you can use the same argument for their enemies.
Also, it's possible (even in LotR) that the wounds could have been cured and Boromir saved, but it would require the right person with the right skills and right tools/herbs/magic available at the spot because you won't have much time to get him elsewhere or find the right person and bring them there.
All in all, yes, magic can make things more complicated, but it doesn't make every problem just disappear, and can also be used to make the problem even worse.
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2012-08-14, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Based on what we've seen on the show I would rank the Princesses and other superbeings thusly:
Celestia+Luna+Elements > Discord > Celestia+Elements > Cadence +Shining Armor > Chrysalis > Luna > Celestia
So without the Elements, the most powerful Princess is obviously Cadence *flees*Proof-reading is totally unnecessary in the digital age now that we have spell cheque.
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2012-08-14, 11:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-14, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-14, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Because it supports the troll-tastic conclusion I had already decided I wanted to reach.
Really just stick "Elements" at the top of the heap, they're an "I WIN" button for whoever can activate them
Or even scarier: "You're in love with me, now stop attacking and help me murder your friends"Last edited by Eakin; 2012-08-14 at 11:32 AM.
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I'd try to pull you into my game, but it's a terrible game to introduce someone. xD
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2012-08-14, 11:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Which is cuter?
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SpoilerThis is the thief who likes to hoard,
That loves the bard with the puppet Lord
That admires the fighter with the green-hilted sword,
That employs the Wizard, whose bird is ignored,
That has the gender unexplored
That intrigues the Halfling, usually bored,
That slew a mountain of the goblin horde,
That follows the cleric,
That serves the lich,
That seeks the gate,
That guards the snarl,
That lives in the prison the gods built.
guess what I was gone but now I'm back
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2012-08-14, 11:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-14, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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It really is self-evident that the Elements of Harmony combine are not so much a power in and of themselves but rather a way to channel the fundamental conceptual and infinite levels of power that underlie the reality of Equestria.
Thus ranking them is rather an unstoppable force meets immovable object question....
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2012-08-14, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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My headcanon is that Cadance's love magic doesn't create love out of nowhere, it just strengthens love that's already there and/or brings love to the forefront of a pony's mind.
Of course, we have exactly two data points concerning Cadance's magic, and one of those was a flashback to a childhood memory. So I could be totally wrong.
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SpoilerSpoilerThis is the thief who likes to hoard,
That loves the bard with the puppet Lord
That admires the fighter with the green-hilted sword,
That employs the Wizard, whose bird is ignored,
That has the gender unexplored
That intrigues the Halfling, usually bored,
That slew a mountain of the goblin horde,
That follows the cleric,
That serves the lich,
That seeks the gate,
That guards the snarl,
That lives in the prison the gods built.
guess what I was gone but now I'm back
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2012-08-14, 01:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-08-14, 01:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'll try to explain the OOC comment.
All settings have a certain flavour. This flavour is not determined by the story being told at any given time, but by the common narrative elements and conceits that underpin the stories told. A setting is like a character, in that it's locales, players and events are it's appearance, the flavour is the setting's personality. A story that doesn't have the setting's flavour is thus "acting" out of character. Equestria without the rosy tint is like a Philip Marlowe story without the noir, Eberron without the pulpy dungeonpunk or the Cthulhu Mythos without the loss of sanity. It looks like the metaphorical duck, but it doesn't walk and quack like it.
That's the rub. We've seen conflict. Racial tensions exploding into violent conflict in Over a Barrel, slavery in A Dog and Pony Show, assault on a civilian population in A Canterlot Wedding. And it's never dark or mature (in the sense being used here). I don't think this is because the show presents a biased sample (so to speak) of Equestria, but rather because that's the way Equestria actually is. Harmony and Friendship are all but physical laws, like much like how Discworld runs on Narrative Causality or Gurren Lagann runs on Rule of Cool, Rule of Funny and Spiral Power.Last edited by SlyGuyMcFly; 2012-08-14 at 01:14 PM.
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2012-08-14, 01:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Here's the problem I have with your analysis: going by the standards FimFiction puts forth for the Dark tag, at minimum the S2 opener and S2 finale would have been considered "Dark", along with several other episodes such as Party of One. I can't imagine that you would consider these episodes to be lacking in the setting's flavor.
The problem I have is that, as it stands, the "Dark" tag encompasses too wide a spectrum of story elements for anypony to make broad statements about it.If brute force isn't working, that just means you're not using enough of it.
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2012-08-14, 01:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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there is an army equipped and ready to use lethal force. the wonderbolts attempted to kill a rampaging spike.
tartarus is a place in equestria.
clearly we're not seeing very bad things that are there.
the obvious solution to the label problem is to add a "grimdark" tagLast edited by thubby; 2012-08-14 at 01:25 PM.
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Isn't there already a grimdark tag? Or is that just on Equestria Daily or something?
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If brute force isn't working, that just means you're not using enough of it.
When in doubt, set something on fire. If not in doubt, set something on fire anyway.
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