LGBTAitP 26: No Time For Snappy Titles

[Arachu]

Then I has no idea what you actually did. xD

That makes two of us. *Decides it kind of sounded like flirting with everyone or something, Iunno*

So most of you already know this, being friends with me on Facebook and all, but a couple weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me.

D: *Hugs!*


~Bianca

[Lix Lorn]

So most of you already know this, being friends with me on Facebook and all, but a couple weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me.

(HUGS)

That makes two of us. *Decides it kind of sounded like flirting with everyone or something, Iunno*

I'm cool with that.
(attempts huggle)

[Lady Serpentine]

So most of you already know this, being friends with me on Facebook and all, but a couple weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me.

*More hugs*

[KenderWizard]

This is a good point - Kender, there's a way that the threadpub could be even better~

Beanbags and fleece blankets!

That sounds like an amazing idea, mind if I borrow it? I could use some positivity.

Absolutely! I hope it could bring some positivity for you!

Wouldn't it be better if we didn't have to be our avatar? Because I don't think most of my avatars would work too well, considering one of them has two people, and all of them* contain someone of a different gender than I am, which would be not fun at all, from what I've heard.

*Not including the one being eaten by an eldritch abomination which I've never used in my avatar box, or the one I used only on one special occasion.

Well, they wouldn't be mandatory, people could do whatever they like!

So most of you already know this, being friends with me on Facebook and all, but a couple weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me.

Oh no. Hugs?

[Arachu]

I'm cool with that.
(attempts huggle)

*Huggles~* ^_^


EDIT:

Beanbags and fleece blankets!

Yep~!


(Also, *more hugs* for Shiro. :<)


~Bianca

[Absol197]

And in other news my GF and I have prettymuch sorted things out. They're still up in the air in regards to our future as a couple, but we've sorted out things in regards to moving out, telling parents and so on. So even with a degree of uncertainty about some things we're doing ok.

*hugs* I glad things are calming down for you! Hopefully things will work out alright.

So most of you already know this, being friends with me on Facebook and all, but a couple weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me.

I do not use Facebook, so I didn't know. I'm so sorry, that hurts so much, especially when you're in love. I know they don't help much, but I can give you as many *hugs* as you need.

I really wish I could get one of those No-No things... Shaving is so tedious and I can always feel stubble again in hours. >.>

~Bianca

I know! I would love to have one of them! Why couldn't you just order one? I've been considering it. Are they prohibatively expensive or something? Or would your parents notice the package and/or card charge?

I've been feeling kinda down recently. I've been wanting to find someone to date for a while, but now things get even more difficult. It would feel disingenuous to call myself as a man, because there's a high probability that I won't be staying that way for long. And it definitely wouldn't be fair to her, seeing as how hard a time Zorg and his girlfriend are having. Especially since I already know. But because I've barely started any kind of transition, and won't really be able to for at least half a year, I seriously doubt anyone who likes girls would be interested in me at all.

[Heliomance]

Bisexuals exist, Absol. Yes the dating pool for those that don't nicely match the binary is a lot smaller, but it's not nonexistant. There are people out there that honestly don't mind about their SO being trans - and some that actually find it a turn-on.

[Arachu]

I know! I would love to have one of them! Why couldn't you just order one? I've been considering it. Are they prohibatively expensive or something? Or would your parents notice the package and/or card charge?

A bit of both - I'm sure I can save up enough money, but it'll take a bit (longer if I finish converting my XBox to a computer like I'm planning) and I'll have to buy it through my cousin. >.>

I've been feeling kinda down recently. I've been wanting to find someone to date for a while, but now things get even more difficult. It would feel disingenuous to call myself as a man, because there's a high probability that I won't be staying that way for long. And it definitely wouldn't be fair to her, seeing as how hard a time Zorg and his girlfriend are having. Especially since I already know. But because I've barely started any kind of transition, and won't really be able to for at least half a year, I seriously doubt anyone who likes girls would be interested in me at all.

What Helio said~ *Hugs*


~Bianca

[Lix Lorn]

*Huggles~* ^_^

(Attempts more than huggles)

[Arachu]

(Attempts more than huggles)

Is it warm in here? I feel stereotypically warm.


~Bianca

[Lix Lorn]

Is it warm in here? I feel stereotypically warm.

Well, you're certainly pretty hot...

[Lentrax]

*hugs* I glad things are calming down for you! Hopefully things will work out alright.



I do not use Facebook, so I didn't know. I'm so sorry, that hurts so much, especially when you're in love. I know they don't help much, but I can give you as many *hugs* as you need.



I know! I would love to have one of them! Why couldn't you just order one? I've been considering it. Are they prohibatively expensive or something? Or would your parents notice the package and/or card charge?

I've been feeling kinda down recently. I've been wanting to find someone to date for a while, but now things get even more difficult. It would feel disingenuous to call myself as a man, because there's a high probability that I won't be staying that way for long. And it definitely wouldn't be fair to her, seeing as how hard a time Zorg and his girlfriend are having. Especially since I already know. But because I've barely started any kind of transition, and won't really be able to for at least half a year, I seriously doubt anyone who likes girls would be interested in me at all.

That's not true, absol. I have dated people from all across the spectrum of body/gender/appearance types. I never hated or judged any of them, and I loved them all. It will be hard, but do not lose faith in yourself, and you will find who you are looking for in a partner.

We all believe in you, and will be here to provided many wonderful hugs through the good times and the bad.

*hugs*

[Asta Kask]

I'm sorry to hear that Lil Shiro. Do you want to talk about it?

*hugs*

[Mono Vertigo]

So most of you already know this, being friends with me on Facebook and all, but a couple weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me.

Oh dear.
*hugs*

[SiuiS]

Eh... second guessing myself again. Have been male for the past couple of days, but I went out last night en femme, and the switch over was so easy that I started worrying that maybe I'm pushing myself into being more girly, that it's not real. After all, if I'm making a concious choice to be male or female, then is that really who I am?

Consciously choosing how yor consciousness works actually seems like it is more genuine, not less.

I would also like to point out that you're not forcing femininity per se, since making a choice and then plowing through is supposed to be a masculine trait.

@ Helio - I guess the question would be if much changed about you when you went out femme? I don't mean appearance, but behavior / personality etc. I lack the confidence and appearance to go out femmed up at the moment, but I've noticed on reflection that when I'm with friends who I'm out to that I certainly act more 'girly'. But when I'm not I don't, and I don't think it's anything to do with forcing the issue.
My personal take is that when I'm not out it's not that I'm swapping, it's that I'm keeping something back. Now, I find this very easy to do - I'm quite a reserved person in real life if I don't know you well - and I regularly keep a lid on things so to speak when at work or whatnot.

I still find it incredibly easy to slip into a conversation about hairstyles, clothes (shoes!) and makeup even if a few moments ago I was bro-ing it up with some dudes.
So, yeah, I wouldn't worry about it so long as you're comfortable with yourself

None of my friends seem to have noticed that there's anything off with my discussing dresses and shoes. I'm sure the old friends are unsung it odd, but the newer ones are either too nice or too unsure to mention anything.

Got my first electrolysis appointment on Tuesday, which is good - but I have to let my facial hair* grow out, which is bad. Not liking looking in the mirror at the moment, but at least I'm getting it done now before my hair grows out or I start going femme. I'd hate to have to let it grow for treatment when I would otherwise feel comfortable going female.

I was wondering about that based on someone mentioning getting it done before hormone treatment. Do you have to let it grow out in order for the technician to see it? That introduces a much larger component of human error than I'd like, but then I wouldn't trust any software to get it all either..,

How painful was it? And what was the price range? You're dollar is about five cents more valuable than mine, yes?

And in other news my GF and I have prettymuch sorted things out. They're still up in the air in regards to our future as a couple, but we've sorted out things in regards to moving out, telling parents and so on. So even with a degree of uncertainty about some things we're doing ok.

Envy envy envy

Physically and learned mannerisms(at least some of which aren't even widely considered to be male anymore because feminism as Serpentine and others have mentioned in the past), yeah. The consensus and thought I've always seen on the matter was that transwomen were not male except physically and whatever training from their upbringing they received.

Experiencing emotional anguish from a word for facial hair even when it's not even being discussed in a context that has to do with one's self, like, say, if one went into the You Thread or even went through the backlog of this thread to a couple of my posts... And I may be mistaken that such is the case... But I could hardly call it a good thing, emotional anguish being unpleasant as it is.

If I'm getting something wrong, please explain rather than try to silence me. That's why I'm including all of these qualifications so you've got a chance to say, stop right there, you've misunderstood something here.

He is glad of a sign of positive change, even though in a Vacuum the specific seems weird.

Note to self: put actual thought into the specifics of that creature.

An then share the notes! It's a fascinating critter.

So most of you already know this, being friends with me on Facebook and all, but a couple weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me.

ouch. Ya wanna talk about it, luv? Or just commiserations?

[Heliomance]

Wait - why are we using "he" for Zorg? Isn't "she" more appropriate?

[SiuiS]

I had honestly disconnected my understanding of the situation from any of the component parts. But yes, that is something I should definitely be more mindful of. Especially given my phone's penchant for 'correction'. Thanks.

[Zorg]

*hugs* I glad things are calming down for you! Hopefully things will work out alright.

Thanks I hope so too, but even if it doesn't we've done everything we possibly can to try, so there will be minimal regrets.

I've been feeling kinda down recently. I've been wanting to find someone to date for a while, but now things get even more difficult. It would feel disingenuous to call myself as a man, because there's a high probability that I won't be staying that way for long. And it definitely wouldn't be fair to her, seeing as how hard a time Zorg and his girlfriend are having. Especially since I already know. But because I've barely started any kind of transition, and won't really be able to for at least half a year, I seriously doubt anyone who likes girls would be interested in me at all.

This isn't very helpful, but since the potential for singleness is something I've been thinking of I understand your situation. My conclusion was that I would have to stay single

None of my friends seem to have noticed that there's anything off with my discussing dresses and shoes. I'm sure the old friends are unsung it odd, but the newer ones are either too nice or too unsure to mention anything.

This is discussing in terms of "I want that dress" or "do you think I could make those shoes worK?", so more obvious there

I was wondering about that based on someone mentioning getting it done before hormone treatment. Do you have to let it grow out in order for the technician to see it? That introduces a much larger component of human error than I'd like, but then I wouldn't trust any software to get it all either..,

How painful was it? And what was the price range? You're dollar is about five cents more valuable than mine, yes?

I'm not sure the exact reasoning - I believe it improves conductivity during treatment from what was briefly said (as well as establishing how much will be needed by seeing growth patterns), but I'll be sure to ask more detailed questions tomorrow.

They gave me some price info and the people I'm seeing charge on a sliding scale the more you get. You can have up to 6 hours at once (3 hours treatment with two rigs) and that works out quite a bit cheaper than just a single hour. Again, I'll get more specifics tomorrow and it'll probably vary with some shopping around.

Envy envy envy

That's why I love her

Wait - why are we using "he" for Zorg? Isn't "she" more appropriate?

Thankyou, yes, it would be appreciated.

[Taliesin]

So most of you already know this, being friends with me on Facebook and all, but a couple weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me.

*Hugs*




As for the QUILTBAG Kantian death squad here, I am thinking whether I am a bit paranoid about seeing homophobia where none exists. I was at a concert of a band recently, where there was a fellow with his arm around another guy that could be perfectly fine be read as them just being friends, but just could maybe also be interpreted differently (I know I did). The place was rather metal in nature but the band was one that had played when my mother was in university and is popular to this day so the audience was not so hardcore as would be usual there. Most of the people in the room where young though.

Anyway, so the fellow mentioned is rather energetic in front of the stage, when a rather strong looking man, clad in metal attire and wearing a kilt, grabs the back of his neck and I overhear him threatening him with rather serious violence if he doesn't stop (doing something?). The said fellow then leaves.

A friend who seemed to know the guy in a kilt talked to him and said some time later that the energetic fellow had been really drunk and that had been what had caused the problem. Nevertheless, I was feeling rather uncomfortable the whole evening. Think that I might be slightly too paranoid about stuff like that.

TL,DR: A guy at a concert that could be read as both gay or not-gay was told to behave himself under the threat of violence, later it turned out that this had nothing to do with his possible orientation but with him being too drunk and too energetic. Me still felt uncomfortable. Too paranoid?

[The Succubus]

*hugs Shiro* - Sorry it didn't work out for you. You're a really sweet guy.

[Absol197]

Bisexuals exist, Absol. Yes the dating pool for those that don't nicely match the binary is a lot smaller, but it's not nonexistant. There are people out there that honestly don't mind about their SO being trans - and some that actually find it a turn-on.

What Helio said~ *Hugs*

I know, but even when I thought I was a part of the binary, I was having lots of trouble finding anyone, even for just a one-time coffee date (I think a grand total of two in the entire six years since college started). And now that my dating pool has shrunk so considerably, compounded with the fact that I have no idea how to go about finding people outside the binary, I'm quite lost.

That's not true, absol. I have dated people from all across the spectrum of body/gender/appearance types. I never hated or judged any of them, and I loved them all. It will be hard, but do not lose faith in yourself, and you will find who you are looking for in a partner.

We all believe in you, and will be here to provided many wonderful hugs through the good times and the bad.

*hugs*

Thanks, but as I'm sure everybody knows, not everyone is as accepting and loving as you are.

This isn't very helpful, but since the potential for singleness is something I've been thinking of I understand your situation. My conclusion was that I would have to stay single.

That's kinda what I'm afraid of. I've been okay, if a bit saddened by remaining single for now, but I'm worried that something similar to what happened when I realized I was trans** will: one day, unexpectedly, I just couldn't take dreaming and imagining it anymore, and I wanted somthing more. That hasn't happened yet with regards to dating, but it might, and I'll have no idea when until it happens. And then what am I going to do?

A bit of both - I'm sure I can save up enough money, but it'll take a bit (longer if I finish converting my XBox to a computer like I'm planning) and I'll have to buy it through my cousin. >.>


~Bianca

How much do they cost? I haven't looked it up, but I can't imagine they can be too outrageous, right?

EDIT: I just looked it up, and assuming my weak Google-fu found the correct site, $250 is definitely not an easy amount of funds to pull together.

Thanks I hope so too, but even if it doesn't we've done everything we possibly can to try, so there will be minimal regrets.

Those two outcomes are about the best one can hope for. You've really gotten lucky to have someone who's willing to try so hard for you. I'm jealous .

* I've been wondering: why the asterisk after the word trans? I've seen that most everyone else does it, so I've been doing it, but I don't understand why.

[Absol197]

Mystic Muse, I must say: I love your Ravenpony avatar!

[Mono Vertigo]

* I've been wondering: why the asterisk after the word trans? I've seen that most everyone else does it, so I've been doing it, but I don't understand why.[/SIZE]

It's a sort of placeholder, a short way of including transwomen/transmen/trans[non-binary identity].

[Taliesin]

I think that the asterisk in trans* comes from its use as a wildcard character in computing - i.e. * stands for any string of characters possible. So * could mean man, woman, gender, person, noneofyourbusiness, batman, aminase, hippopotamus, jsogja409a248t2a or anything at all.

[Mono Vertigo]

So * could mean (...) batman, (...) hippopotamus, jsogja409a248t2a or anything at all.

*giggles like an idiot*

[Absol197]

It's a sort of placeholder, a short way of including transwomen/transmen/trans[non-binary identity].

I think that the asterisk in trans* comes from its use as a wildcard character in computing - i.e. * stands for any string of characters possible. So * could mean man, woman, gender, person, noneofyourbusiness, batman, aminase, hippopotamus, jsogja409a248t2a or anything at all.

Okay, got it!

Also;

trans* [...] batman

Who hasn't felt that they were secretly a silent nighttime protector of the innocent, but were unfortunately born without ultra-rich parents, lots of gizmos, and an awesome butler ?

[The Succubus]

That's actually a good point - has Marvel or DC ever done a trans superhero at all? Brings back fond memories of the time when we tried that ourselves with Queerkitty, Kenderwoman (and her mighty hammer) and I think Birchgrove did one as well.

[Lentrax]

Thanks, but as I'm sure everybody knows, not everyone is as accepting and loving as you are.

Maybe not, but we are out there! Just find someone who can accept you for you, and it'll all work out fine.

Also;


Who hasn't felt that they were secretly a silent nighttime protector of the innocent, but were unfortunately born without ultra-rich parents, lots of gizmos, and an awesome butler ?

I know I did, but that was until I helped form the Less Useful Than Aquaman Squad.

You know, for those of us who want to be heroes, but fall just a little short of being super.

[Absol197]

That's actually a good point - has Marvel or DC ever done a trans superhero at all? Brings back fond memories of the time when we tried that ourselves with Queerkitty, Kenderwoman (and her mighty hammer) and I think Birchgrove did one as well.

I've actually had an idea for a trans character for Werewolf: the Forsaken. She's a transwoman who, before her change, went entirely through transition, including several surgeries. But, because of her newfound werewolf healing, very soon after the Change, she reverted to her original body. Hormones don't work anymore, etc. One of her personal goals is to find some kind of Gift, Ritual, or spirit-magic of some kind to permanently transform her to her proper body. Now I just need to find a ST who's willing to have a character like that in his/her game...No, there's ABSOLUTELY no Mary-Sue, wish-fulfillment-ness going on in the construction of this character. Move along, nothing to see here <_< >_>

As for actual superheroes, no, I can't think of any off the top of my head. But then, I don't read many comics - all I know about most superheroes is what I see in the movies, which I know is not a very good place to catch up on canon .

EDIT: Lentrax - The one problem with that, for the moment, is that I still haven't full accepted me for me. I'm working on it, but not quite there, yet. Thanks again for your encouragement, though!

[Lentrax]

Its what I am here for.

And I cannot recall any hero being trans, but I do know there was/are a couple of same-gender relationships in both DC and Marvel, although the only DC one I can think of right now is Green Lantern from one of the Alternate Earths.

edit: Arrgh! Been working all night, and now I can't type! I keep misspelling or leaving out words. And I don't even know how many ='s I've deleted in the last half hour.