Careless Village WW

[gunnar11]

Nightpenguin appears to be a Wolf Sleeper."

I'm not really sure Count Dingdong likes to use those kind of words...

Even so, I have to admit I've got nothing better...

I'll vote Executioner for now

[Penguinator]

You... don't think he likes to use the word a?

[gunnar11]

You... don't think he likes to use the word a?

he generally avoids the words: The, a, these, this, those

[TBFProgrammer]

he generally avoids the words: The, a, these, this, those

He uses them sporadically. I wouldn't put much stock in anything derived from that pattern.

[usourselves&we]

Yes, it may be too much to base things solely on that.

And it may be likely that a sleeper role is a thing, as there has been other strange things in this game, but we are still hesitant of possible fools and the full validity of the kid.

At this time our vote will be a non-vote until something sparks a flame in us.

[Nightpenguin]

I think that C'Nor is a Fool, because there's nothing about that in my role (should I expect there to be?). No Lynch because I'd rather not die.

[Lady Serpentine]

I think that C'Nor is a Fool, because there's nothing about that in my role (should I expect there to be?). No Lynch because I'd rather not die.

Based on the only other game I've been in which had Sleepers, no, you wouldn't. You'd believe yourself to be a perfectly normal Town Whatever, and show up as one should we lynch you, until the condition kicks in.

[Gray Mage]

If someone could help me refresh my memory, has C'Nor given us a scry result before?

[Lady Serpentine]

If someone could help me refresh my memory, has C'Nor given us a scry result before?

I haven't. My computer has been going off at random, so I've been just as bad about scrying as I have been about voting, and of the ones I've submitted, this is the first time that the target didn't die that night and I didn't get voided.

[Disproportional]

So I am currently a role-less clueless newcomer, correct? In that case, No Lynch

[Count Dingdong]

So I am currently a role-less clueless newcomer, correct? In that case, No Lynch

Yes. Will be given role before start of next day phase. Don't have to vote when Clueless Newcomer as that day won't be counted toward AL.

Also, note difference between No Lynch/Executioner and No Vote. If number voting No Lynch/Executioner outnumber other groups, Executioner decision. No Vote doesn't count toward that but also doesn't lead to AL. In case that makes difference. First day it may.

Current Votes:
Nightpenguin - 5
No Lynch/Executioner - 4
No Vote - 1

Gray Mage & Eternis haven't voted yet. 3 min to lynch. ~27 hours left.

Make sure to send in Executioner decision just in case. If want someone dead, make decision count. Or if really want no death, send in No Lynch. Clueless Newcomers w/o QTs can send me Executioner decision in PM if wish.

Investigation Votes:
Spinstress - 2

[Nightpenguin]

Not that I agree that it weighs in on the current investigation... but Count Dingdong really doesn't like to use little words like "a" or "the".

[planswalker]

he also is human and therefore not 100% consistent. I think your argument is rather specious unless you've got something else to say against the role.

[Count Dingdong]

Less than 6 hours left, no change in anything. Gray Mage, Eternis need to vote. One vote can make all difference. Send in Executioner decisions in QT just in case.

[Nightpenguin]

he also is human and therefore not 100% consistent. I think your argument is rather specious unless you've got something else to say against the role.

No, no, I said that it wasn't part of my argument; just commenting .
Honestly, there's not much to say against a claimed scry, especially as if I'm lynched, C'Nor is protected against any possible backlash: if I show up as town, I was a sleeper as scried. There's literally no possible downside for C'Nor, a very "safe" claim, as it were, with no way to disprove it.

[Count Dingdong]

I have stuff to do. Expect delays. Likely until tomorrow morning.

[Eternis]

Executioner!

[Count Dingdong]

Dangit, should have stopped votes. Now have to change narration, but it's Executioner decision. If didn't send in decision by now in QT, have no say in it. Won't be accepting any more. Day's over writing narration now.

[Count Dingdong]

Day 19

Sun rises, Storyteller at gate. Welcomes someone entering, tired from long journey. Explorer from looks of it, weary from travels. Shows him to inn in town where he rests for night. When night comes, that is. For now, has some exploring to do.

In Mayor's office, talks with Legislator. "You've done well, kept others at bay, minimized unnecessary killing while here. Mind keeping up the good work? We could use someone of your skills and caliber here. At least until our work is done?" Legislator nods, and they shake hands. Mayor heads off to Mob

In crowd, people discussing who to kill. Names tossed around, reasons given, accusations posed, who's right, who's wrong. Mayor speaks up, "Calm down, calm down. Let's not be uncivil with this. Here, we can have a ballot. Each person makes a decision, I'll draw. It will be a fair determination." Mob murmurs but eventually agrees, and basket passed around. Eventually makes way back to Mayor and he pulls out one. "Well, that's interesting. This vote says 'No one' Guess that's what happens. Anyone want to confirm that?" Angry people come up and check, but speaks true. Muttering calms down.

Then someone speaks out. "Hey! Who's that Spinstress girl up on the town gates? She's strange!" Mayor starts and speaks, "A Spinstress, you say? On the town gate? Are you sure you're right, not just a Fool? Wait, do you speak of the Storyteller? Or Gatekeeper, for that matter? Don't tell me you're hallucinating, mad like a Hatter. What, you say? He's not here yet? I'm sorry. As Mayor I don't know everyone. And I certainly don't have power over their actions..."

Mayor leaves briskly to murmuring crowd and hisses under his breath. "You are not to do that again, hear me? I can handle these fools..." Far up on gates, loom weaves, pen writes verse, Gatekeeper bursts out laughing. As night falls and Explorer rests...

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No one was lynched. Some of you had a say, though!
AL deadline has passed. Newcomer Role #22 was the Coward.
Matthias2207 assumes his role.
Two Clueless Newcomers remain in town.
TigerFang, Caprice, and Lex-kat can choose spots as Clueless Newcomers Day 20
Tom the Mime can choose a spot as Clueless Newcomer Night 20
Only 3 spots remain. If you die, there's no guarantee you'll come back!

Publicly revealed wins:

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Player Name	Wins
Zar Peter	3
bladescape	3
TigerFang	2
Devmaar	2
planswalker	2
Caprice	2
usourselves&we	2
Grue Bait	2
Nightpenguin	2
Gray Mage	1
Ramsus	1
Matthias2207	1
Eternis	1
Chromasia	1
gunnar11	1
Tom the Mime	1
Lex-Kat	1
Kalrany	1
C'nor	1

Player List:

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Living Roles:

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##	Player Name
18	planswalker
21	C'nor
23	Matthias2207
24	TBFProgrammer
29	Zar Peter
32	Nightpenguin
34	gunnar11
37	Gray Mage
38	Eternis
45	usourselves&we
48	Penguinator
50	bladescape
--	Clueless Newcomer
44	Disproportional
47	Grue Bait

Night 19 begins
...and will end in 24 hours

Call for any onlookers to be Clueless Newcomers!

New Mayor rules have been instated! Send in 2 things: (1) public decision of title to investigate. Write in blue. (2) private decision of person to lynch. Doesn't have to be who you vote to lynch in red. Send in QTs please. These will be used as Executioner replacement if no executioner exists. Mayor wants democracy in play: each person has say in who's investigated and who's lynched, even if don't come to public decision.

Executioner decision: if no executioner role exists, choose randomly from names sent in QTs. Weighted according to number of times. E.g. 5 votes for Count Dingdong, 1 vote for Rules Lawyer. Each vote for CD = 5 times as likely as RL. So imagine putting them in as lots in a ballot. Each vote for CD = 5 votes -> 25 votes; Each vote for RL = 1 vote -> 1 vote. CD has 25/26 chance of being chosen. RL has 1/26 chance. Think squares. Person chosen is lynched. Can choose your decision as No Lynch if want and same rules apply. Also, each time, random 10% chance to get no lynch regardless.

Missed 1 Day
Gray Mage

*Sorry for extra delay. Thought I had time then didn't.*

[Lady Serpentine]

To quell the doubts about my scry result:

Calm, cool night, a peaceful village.

[Disproportional]

Yes. Will be given role before start of next day phase. Don't have to vote when Clueless Newcomer as that day won't be counted toward AL.

Also, note difference between No Lynch/Executioner and No Vote. If number voting No Lynch/Executioner outnumber other groups, Executioner decision. No Vote doesn't count toward that but also doesn't lead to AL. In case that makes difference. First day it may.

Current Votes:
Nightpenguin - 5
No Lynch/Executioner - 4
No Vote - 1

Gray Mage & Eternis haven't voted yet. 3 min to lynch. ~27 hours left.

Make sure to send in Executioner decision just in case. If want someone dead, make decision count. Or if really want no death, send in No Lynch. Clueless Newcomers w/o QTs can send me Executioner decision in PM if wish.

Investigation Votes:
Spinstress - 2

I've gotten a bit confused in the past few pages. Who is confirmed town ATM?

[Penguinator]

I've gotten a bit confused in the past few pages. Who is confirmed town ATM?

bladescape is a confirmed harmless neutral, I'm not sure past that.

[planswalker]

As far as I know, that's it, although there are a few who are likely town, I won't mention who while it's night phase in order to avoid giving the wolves a chance to target them tonight.

[Count Dingdong]

12 hours left, still missing actions. Just heads up.

[Gray Mage]

As far as I know, that's it, although there are a few who are likely town, I won't mention who while it's night phase in order to avoid giving the wolves a chance to target them tonight.

The wolf suggestion happens during the day, though, so unless the particular wolf has a kill power, they can't change targets.

[Count Dingdong]

Night 19

Monk goes up once again to bell tower to complete ritual. Things are set up, completed, lit, bell is rung. "Sleep, city, sleep. Let's not make a peep. Later on's when killing comes, tonight still safe in homes, sleep, city, sleep..." and packs up.

In city, many fall asleep, only focusing on few. Witch finishes preparations right before, casts spell and sleeps. Child murmurs in sleep, restless from nightmares. "Eternis? Eternal? Killer? Friend? Don't know... Don't know! DON'T KNOW!!! don't know... Mommy... Waah..." Twins fall down with clatter to streets, to wake up in morning none the worse. But not everyone's asleep.

Mayor cringes at white light and speaks to Gatekeeper. "It's ghastly, unnatural. Why would someone make it as bright as day here? People need there sleep. Don't mess with my city..." Gatekeeper chuckles as Storyteller records new verses and Spinstress adds white to the loom. Explorer watches outside sky, white from power, in amazement and wonder. Hasn't seen anything like it in his travels so far. Meanwhile, all else sleep in city, to wake from peaceful slumber following day. And so day dawns, little killing happening.

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No one was killed. Once again, a peaceful night...
Disproportional and Grue Bait assumes their roles.
TigerFang, Caprice, and Lex-kat can choose spots as Clueless Newcomers Today!
Tom the Mime can choose a spot as Clueless Newcomer Night 20
Only 3 spots remain. If you die, there's no guarantee you'll come back!

For lasting so long, Zar Peter, Penguinator, and planswalker gain wins

Publicly revealed wins:

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Player Name	Wins
Zar Peter	4
bladescape	3
planswalker	3
TigerFang	2
Devmaar	2
Caprice	2
usourselves&we	2
Grue Bait	2
Nightpenguin	2
Gray Mage	1
Ramsus	1
Matthias2207	1
Eternis	1
Chromasia	1
gunnar11	1
Tom the Mime	1
Lex-Kat	1
Kalrany	1
C'nor	1
Penguinator	1

Player List:

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Living Roles:

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##	Player Name
18	planswalker
21	C'nor
23	Matthias2207
24	TBFProgrammer
29	Zar Peter
32	Nightpenguin
34	gunnar11
37	Gray Mage
38	Eternis
44	Disproportional
45	usourselves&we
47	Grue Bait
48	Penguinator
50	bladescape

Day 20 begins
...and will end in 48 hours

Call for any onlookers to be Clueless Newcomers!

New Mayor rules have been instated! Send in 2 things: (1) public decision of title to investigate. Write in blue. (2) private decision of person to lynch. Doesn't have to be who you vote to lynch in red. Send in QTs please. These will be used as Executioner replacement if no executioner exists. Mayor wants democracy in play: each person has say in who's investigated and who's lynched, even if don't come to public decision.

Executioner decision: if no executioner role exists, choose randomly from names sent in QTs. Weighted according to number of times. E.g. 5 votes for Count Dingdong, 1 vote for Rules Lawyer. Each vote for CD = 5 times as likely as RL. So imagine putting them in as lots in a ballot. Each vote for CD = 5 votes -> 25 votes; Each vote for RL = 1 vote -> 1 vote. CD has 25/26 chance of being chosen. RL has 1/26 chance. Think squares. Person chosen is lynched. Can choose your decision as No Lynch if want and same rules apply. Also, each time, random 10% chance to get no lynch regardless.

14 players -> 4 min to lynch

Missed 1 Day
Gray Mage

[planswalker]

Suggestions:
Each night, wolves give suggestions for who to night kill in their QT. As the suggestions go around, other wolves try to take their own names out of the equation. While not a perfect system, a few wolf names get taken out when suggestions passed finally to night killer(s). And sometimes non-Wolf names get taken out as well. While pretty good measure, some wolves get left, some village gets taken out. Also, not every newcomer wolf gives suggestions. Those players don't get this benefit.

That was my understanding of how suggestions worked.

anyways, I'm voting Executioner's Pick for now.

[Lady Serpentine]

Nightpenguin again, for the same reasons as yesterday.

[TBFProgrammer]

Alright, Gunnar11 to start with, and I'm going to go through the entire list of people voting executioner if we don't start doing real lynches. Secret ballots can only hurt town.

[Gray Mage]

I agree with TBF, leaving it to the executioner with every vote being a lynch possibility is asking for bad luck to strike. Better do your best to avoid it.

Now, it's probably best to deal with the Nightpenguin/C'Nor situation now instead of postponing it. Now, Nightpenguin, for the seer test. It's possible the sleeper role will be revealed upon death and it's only hidden from the player until X happens. No reason why it should follow other games' rules in that it doesn't get revealed. Hoping on that.