Fairy Tail II: Second Generation Thread Slayers

[lord_khaine]

Rave Master was fantastic because, nine times out of ten, the bad guys were beaten with rather clever stuff.

Anyway, yha, I'm probably just frustrated in another way

Maybe not quite 9/10, but its still something i really miss in the current FT, where passion and plot-armor trump carefull planning every time.

[LaZodiac]

Sounds interesting... Maybe I'll have to have a look.

Yha. It's a really cool series. It does have some of the fanservice problems one could claim Fairy Tail has, but much less. Long story short, the local fanservice machine IS ALSO AS BADASS AS ERZA, and her fanservice scenes are typically related to her just being awesome. Though unlike Erza, she's not a super invincible warrior.

That was a sex joke

[Fiery Diamond]

Yha. It's a really cool series. It does have some of the fanservice problems one could claim Fairy Tail has, but much less. Long story short, the local fanservice machine IS ALSO AS BADASS AS ERZA, and her fanservice scenes are typically related to her just being awesome. Though unlike Erza, she's not a super invincible warrior.

The problem with that is that that's just fetishizing female fighters, rather than presenting the character cool just because she's cool.

[LaZodiac]

The problem with that is that that's just fetishizing female fighters, rather than presenting the character cool just because she's cool.

That is true, but she actually only has the one fanservice fight. All her other fights are REALLY brutal, and if the mangaka wasn't apparently very averse to showing blood, it'd be the type of fight you'd see in a Seinen manga.

[Olinser]

3 new chapters.

So, in the flashback, I obviously recognize Mavis and Hades (eyepatch in the center), along with Cken, but who's the 4th guy on the right? He's way too tall to be Makarov.

[lord_khaine]

That last guy looked a lot like the siluette of one of the remaining top 4 wizard saints.

[Socratov]

hm... it would be rather quaint if 2 of the top 4 and 1 not top four wizardsaint would be FT.

Woudln't surprise me, but it would be rather suspicious...

[Kato]

That was a sex joke

I kind of got that but I think I missed some part f it. Ah, well...

Had a look into Rave. It's not bad so far but the fact that Haru looks like Natsu's lost twin brother is quite irritating.

hm... it would be rather quaint if 2 of the top 4 and 1 not top four wizardsaint would be FT.

Woudln't surprise me, but it would be rather suspicious...

It's Fairy Tail... the odds are about 75% all of them used to be in the guild..

[LaZodiac]

I kind of got that but I think I missed some part f it. Ah, well...

Had a look into Rave. It's not bad so far but the fact that Haru looks like Natsu's lost twin brother is quite irritating.


It's Fairy Tail... the odds are about 75% all of them used to be in the guild..

Spoilers the mangaka isn't the greatest at art. Gerard in Fairy Tail is literally just the same character design as Sieg from Rave Master. At least Sieg is different personality wise.

[lord_khaine]

Yeah, Sieg was also pretty cool.
For that matter Grey also had a long lost brother in that serie

[9mm]

so those three chapters...

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Who want to bet that by the end of the arc Natsu will have eaten the eternal flame?

[Hopeless]

so those three chapters...

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Who want to bet that by the end of the arc Natsu will have eaten the eternal flame?

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That depends on him needing a pick me up...

and the fact if said item knows anything about Natsu we should be seeing it running for the hills!

[Kato]

Yeah, Sieg was also pretty cool.
For that matter Grey also had a long lost brother in that serie

Yeah, it's Lucy/Natsu/Gray all over again... And Happy. Except Happy doesn't talk but is somewhat useful. Okay, I guess Happy can also be.
I'm not that far into it yet but the story seems kind of... I won't say bad but it doesn't really captivate me. I'll have to admit, Fairy Tail did a much better job with that. I can't say who copied whom since both manga started in November 1999 but the bit with the almost extinct family sounds familiar. Then again, it isn't that uncommon a trope.

[Moak]

Yeah, it's Lucy/Natsu/Gray all over again... And Happy. Except Happy doesn't talk but is somewhat useful. Okay, I guess Happy can also be.
I'm not that far into it yet but the story seems kind of... I won't say bad but it doesn't really captivate me. I'll have to admit, Fairy Tail did a much better job with that. I can't say who copied whom since both manga started in November 1999 but the bit with the almost extinct family sounds familiar. Then again, it isn't that uncommon a trope.

Acqtually, FT comes after Rave. Rave run was 1999-2005, and FT started in 2006.

In the beginning of FT, I remember a lot of my friends arguing about the citation/similarity between characters... I've always setted for "nostalgic quotes" from FT to Rave.

[Friv]

Yeah, it's Lucy/Natsu/Gray all over again... And Happy. Except Happy doesn't talk but is somewhat useful. Okay, I guess Happy can also be.
I'm not that far into it yet but the story seems kind of... I won't say bad but it doesn't really captivate me. I'll have to admit, Fairy Tail did a much better job with that. I can't say who copied whom since both manga started in November 1999 but the bit with the almost extinct family sounds familiar. Then again, it isn't that uncommon a trope.

Note that it's not a matter of who copied whom - both manga were written by the same guy, so it's more him transporting some elements from one story to the next because he liked them.

[Kato]

Huh? Nah, I was referring to the fact that the Uchiha's in Naruto were also slaughtered down to the single digits. I'm aware FT followed Rave.
Hiro sticking with his main cast trio kind of is... well, just somewhat between unoriginal and nostalgic, I'll agree.

[LaZodiac]

Huh? Nah, I was referring to the fact that the Uchiha's in Naruto were also slaughtered down to the single digits. I'm aware FT followed Rave.
Hiro sticking with his main cast trio kind of is... well, just somewhat between unoriginal and nostalgic, I'll agree.

The difference is that Musica uses silver and is awesome and Grey uses ice and strips a lot and is awesome but in his own, unique, stripping way. Basically, Musica is rather serious a guy, while Grey is not.

And really, that's the thing Rave Master has over Fairy Tail, I think. Things are more serious feeling. The good guys lost some times. Hell, sometimes the good guys lost even when they won.

[lord_khaine]

Huh? Nah, I was referring to the fact that the Uchiha's in Naruto were also slaughtered down to the single digits. I'm aware FT followed Rave.
Hiro sticking with his main cast trio kind of is... well, just somewhat between unoriginal and nostalgic, I'll agree.

Yeah, i dont really mind that he is going with comfort picks in the main cast to get the group dynamic going, since there is a big enough difference to make them seem like different people, with Erza along to shake things up.

And i do like the Rave Master easter eggs that are spread thoughout FT, like Grey's amulet for one of the more obvious ones.

And really, that's the thing Rave Master has over Fairy Tail, I think. Things are more serious feeling. The good guys lost some times. Hell, sometimes the good guys lost even when they won.

Yeah, now that i think about it thats really what im missing in FT, it has improved in a lot of ways from RM(like in the supporting cast), but that is something im missing.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Ehh I think I'll keep avoiding Rave Master, doesn't seem like it would improve my FT experience.

And that's the one still being published and all that.

[LaZodiac]

And i do like the Rave Master easter eggs that are spread thoughout FT, like Grey's amulet for one of the more obvious ones.

Wait, Grey's amulet is a reference?

Ehh I think I'll keep avoiding Rave Master, doesn't seem like it would improve my FT experience.

And that's the one still being published and all that.

Well, we're not suggesting you read it to improve your reading of Fairy Tail, we're asking you to read it because it's good XP

IT's also finished, so you wouldn't have to worry about there being so much to read.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Yeah but I'm not really hearing anything that's a terribly good selling point for me. I passed over the series in its own time, I tend to think there's a reason I did. I basically remember it seeming both awkward and generic, if that makes any sense.

Unless its going to improve FT I don't feel the need to dig it up.

[LaZodiac]

Yeah but I'm not really hearing anything that's a terribly good selling point for me. I passed over the series in its own time, I tend to think there's a reason I did. I basically remember it seeming both awkward and generic, if that makes any sense.

Unless its going to improve FT I don't feel the need to dig it up.

Well, it'll explain where the weird Dog summon Lucy has, if that helps.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Oh but I knew that. I remembered that actually.

More because Plue is weird then anything I liked.

[lord_khaine]

Wait, Grey's amulet is a reference?

Try take a close look at it (im sure you can find tons Grey pictures on the internet ), doesnt that object look a lot like something central from Rave Master

[LaZodiac]

Try take a close look at it (im sure you can find tons Grey pictures on the internet ), doesnt that object look a lot like something central from Rave Master

...ooooh, I see.

[Friv]

Huh? Nah, I was referring to the fact that the Uchiha's in Naruto were also slaughtered down to the single digits. I'm aware FT followed Rave.
Hiro sticking with his main cast trio kind of is... well, just somewhat between unoriginal and nostalgic, I'll agree.

Oh, sorry. I connected two discussions together by mistake. Ignore me.

IGNORE ME!

[Kato]

...ooooh, I see.

I didn't realize it right away but when khaine mentioned it and I recalled what it looked like I got it

I'm catching up not too fast but it is decent enough, so far. The battles being fought with some kind of thought behind it reminds me of the earlier days of Fairy Tail
Though, I'm slightly irritated about that weird comic relief thing in chapter 19 which happenes to be called Kato And I guess that's the frst instance in the manga we got something like fanservice.


anyway, new chapter for the manga this thread is actually named after

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The thiefs treasure hunters are actually formidable enemies. Which seems somewhat inconsistent to me... And I feel like stabbing people in the face and shooting at them is quite dangerous. But then so is throwing fireballs.

Erza uses deduction. It is... somewhat effective? I wonder if she is right. But I have no clue, what has happened to her. Rejuvanating flame? Deus Ex Machina to help Ultear????????

[Olinser]

New chapter, all I can say is,

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LOL LOLI ERZA

[Olinser]

I didn't realize it right away but when khaine mentioned it and I recalled what it looked like I got it

I'm catching up not too fast but it is decent enough, so far. The battles being fought with some kind of thought behind it reminds me of the earlier days of Fairy Tail
Though, I'm slightly irritated about that weird comic relief thing in chapter 19 which happenes to be called Kato And I guess that's the frst instance in the manga we got something like fanservice.


anyway, new chapter for the manga this thread is actually named after

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The thiefs treasure hunters are actually formidable enemies. Which seems somewhat inconsistent to me... And I feel like stabbing people in the face and shooting at them is quite dangerous. But then so is throwing fireballs.

Erza uses deduction. It is... somewhat effective? I wonder if she is right. But I have no clue, what has happened to her. Rejuvanating flame? Deus Ex Machina to help Ultear????????

Actually it looks much more like

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The treasure hunters are only 'formidable' because of the items they're carrying. Except instead of S-class item mages like Erza, that have dozens, if not hundreds, of different specialized items, they look like they only have 1 each.

1 spell/jutsu/attack wonder characters eat dirt extremely quickly as soon as somebody figures out how their 1 technique/item works.

As for Erza.... I dunno, I guess we'll have to see. I definitely don't think it's a vision/hallucination, because her equipment fell off her. She's definitely de-aged somehow.

[LaZodiac]

So...

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I was expecting the flame to be like...a volcano. Not randomly the fountain of (cursed) youth.

Ah well, at least we're gonna get to see everyone has kids. That might be cool.