Fairy Tail II: Second Generation Thread Slayers

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Also, I'm excited. Jellal is going to fight. Seriously. Finally. Curbstomp them. Please. Curbstomp the Oracion Five and then let's go to a big climatic battle between GoodGellal and EvilEzra.

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I'm 95% sure that Doranbolt released Oracion Ses so that they could join Jellal in destroying Face. They're all traditional wizards; none of them want a world where Tartaros won. It would fit Jellal's "gray guild" idea to recruit former dark wizards to serve him, and Cobra said that they already had a first job just as Jellal arrived.

(Also, isn't Hoteye still a good guy? Did he ever turn evil again after getting Nirvana'd? I don't think he'd be up for murdering most of the world.)

[lord_khaine]

I think its pretty clear that Jellal is recruiting the rest of Oracion 5. They are all extremely powerfull, and might even die from the explosion.

[Soras Teva Gee]

You know putting aside Oracion Cinco and Jellal... I wanna know what's up with Doranbolt.

My interest in the guy is just skyrocketing.

[LaZodiac]

You know putting aside Oracion Cinco and Jellal... I wanna know what's up with Doranbolt.

My interest in the guy is just skyrocketing.

Doranbolt's actually a really fascinating character. I wonder what he's up too.

[Soras Teva Gee]

I know I'm angling for a guy with at least half a brain leading whatever replaces the Council.

[Cen]

Yay 2 new chapters this week! It's really christmas!

X-mas special is kind of meh and bland (although talking pig is cute)

while the proper chapter....

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Well, it's good. Jellal fighting Oracion 5 - wow, good thing Hiro remembered that Hoteyes is good guy now.
Sooooo much Erza fanservice! I don't like it and turning Minerva into slave through some tentacles? Damn we're getting dangerously close to hentai zone in this chapter. Also, what happened to Elfman?
Natsu tracking Ex-President by his herbal smell - logical and established in continuity.

Still, decent chapter.

[Kato]

Unless I'm missing something I wouldn't call the two pages a "christmas chapter"(?)

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I do have to agree on the fanservice bit though... Hiro really went... a bit more than a bit too far. "Increasing one's sensations" is also a magic that... is basically made for R rated fanfiction, really. Gosh, the whole scene is.. What IS the point of stripping Erza, anyway? Well, I guess it's not entirely unreasonable but then again we know why Hiro did it..

Regarding other things, Jellal fighting Oracion ??? is neat and apparently they got to keep their filler upgrades (Well, Angel did). Thinking Hiro would forget Hoteye's change of character seems a bit low, he's not bad when it comes to remembering his own continuity (most of the time) and I'd say it wouldn't be unexpected for the magic to have worn off or anything...Still, we'll see how well Jellal keeps up and who will save him. (As if he'd die there...)

Natsu tracking the traitor was in fact neat (him levelling the building to do so a bit over the top, maybe. Even if he had his reason to do so.) Also... did he punch out the guy's teeth there?

[Cen]

Unless I'm missing something I wouldn't call the two pages a "christmas chapter"(?)

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Also... did he punch out the guy's teeth there?

He totally did!

[Olinser]

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Naked Erza in magic-sealing shackles being whipped.

I feel like this author is crossing genres.....

[LaZodiac]

Doing my thoughts on the chapter first, then reacting to what you guys said.

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Manga Panda has some interesting translators. I SENSE THEIR SMELL! I...I think you mean you smell them, Natsu.

Oh dear, turning Mira into a full on demon. Also...it DOES make sense to strip Erza since her magic is all equipment based, but still this feels a touch...gratoitous(sic).

I've literally forgotten what everyone of the Oracion can do so this fight was really confusing.

Ah, so this lady's curse inflicts emotions. And...she has a whip. And now she's whipping Erza. Well then.

...of course it's ****ing Jerard.

That last scene's pretty awesome, but would be more so without the teeth.

I feel like someone should look into Hiro's past, see if he's secretly a mangaka like Oh Great! and the like. The way he does his fanservice, it really feels like he might have some bleached underpants in his background, as it where.

[Kato]

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Ah, thank you. Totally missed that. Yeah, not that amazing... FT (especially Happy) drawn by the other mangaka looks pretty weird though. But the idea behind the second story is better than the first.

That last scene's pretty awesome, but would be more so without the teeth.

More awesome, but less funny.

I feel like someone should look into Hiro's past, see if he's secretly a mangaka like Oh Great! and the like. The way he does his fanservice, it really feels like he might have some bleached underpants in his background, as it where.

I.. don't think I've ever heard that expression but maybe? Then again, would he make a secret about it? Though, maybe he's secretly drawing doujin in his spare time... Then again, then he wouldn't need to vent his fantasies in FT.

[LaZodiac]

More awesome, but less funny.

I.. don't think I've ever heard that expression but maybe? Then again, would he make a secret about it? Though, maybe he's secretly drawing doujin in his spare time... Then again, then he wouldn't need to vent his fantasies in FT.

True, and we need the light jump in mood given the rest of the chapter.

The expression is a TVTropes thing. It wouldn't be surprising if it was a secret, since a lot of mangaka who started in the buisness doing that try to keep it a secret. Just look at Haruhi's creator, and the guy who made Hellsing. Although Angel Dust Anderson is a direct reference to one of the things he made/games based on it so I'm not sure how "secret" that is.

And then we have Oh Great! who doesn't even try to be subtle.

[Olinser]

Doing my thoughts on the chapter first, then reacting to what you guys said.

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Manga Panda has some interesting translators. I SENSE THEIR SMELL! I...I think you mean you smell them, Natsu.

Oh dear, turning Mira into a full on demon. Also...it DOES make sense to strip Erza since her magic is all equipment based, but still this feels a touch...gratoitous(sic).

I've literally forgotten what everyone of the Oracion can do so this fight was really confusing.

Ah, so this lady's curse inflicts emotions. And...she has a whip. And now she's whipping Erza. Well then.

...of course it's ****ing Jerard.

That last scene's pretty awesome, but would be more so without the teeth.

I feel like someone should look into Hiro's past, see if he's secretly a mangaka like Oh Great! and the like. The way he does his fanservice, it really feels like he might have some bleached underpants in his background, as it where.

It doesn't inflict emotions.

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It heightens sensations.

As in, Erza is feeling SIGNIFICANTLY more pain than normal.

Think of it like pins-and-needles you get when your foot falls asleep. Just walking on it hurts. Erza is now being tortured with that sensation over her entire body.

[Kato]

The expression is a TVTropes thing. It wouldn't be surprising if it was a secret, since a lot of mangaka who started in the buisness doing that try to keep it a secret. Just look at Haruhi's creator, and the guy who made Hellsing. Although Angel Dust Anderson is a direct reference to one of the things he made/games based on it so I'm not sure how "secret" that is.

You... you made me go to tv tropes... You owe me three hours of my life... Nah, luckily I'm used to it and didn't click any links
And I totally din't try to hunt down that pilot chapter out of curiosity.

huh, I never knew Hirano or Haruhi's creator did that... I guess the Japanese are just more open in that regard. Well, some of them. While I'd say it's nothing to be ashamed of, I can see how people would be afraid to lose credibility or something.

[Olinser]

You... you made me go to tv tropes... You owe me three hours of my life... Nah, luckily I'm used to it and didn't click any links
And I totally din't try to hunt down that pilot chapter out of curiosity.

huh, I never knew Hirano or Haruhi's creator did that... I guess the Japanese are just more open in that regard. Well, some of them. While I'd say it's nothing to be ashamed of, I can see how people would be afraid to lose credibility or something.

Not so much loss of credibility, as having a manga serial intended for young/teenaged children (like Jump) be very hesitant to accept a porn artist as a new contributor. It's a question of target audience.

[Soras Teva Gee]

I feel like someone should look into Hiro's past, see if he's secretly a mangaka like Oh Great! and the like. The way he does his fanservice, it really feels like he might have some bleached underpants in his background, as it where.

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Nope. Or if so its pretty well hidden and nobody has figured out the penname. He seems to have made it on winning a competition to launch Rave which was his first full work. Only one I can find before that is a one-shot named Magician he used to win the competition.

Also his art style isn't really very hentai for all the naked ladies its too 'abstact' if you will. You can check Tenjou Tenge or Hellsing for what I mean, they have a certain, grit to the style.

[Cen]

It doesn't inflict emotions.

it heightens sensations.

Seroiosly. That's 100% hentai material right here. Seriously. That's wrong. Stop it Hiro. Please.

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I've read bleached underpants article.
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hmm... Ok.... I'll just go now look for some brain bleach, see ya guys later and let's not mention this again, ok?

[LaZodiac]

It doesn't inflict emotions.

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It heightens sensations.

As in, Erza is feeling SIGNIFICANTLY more pain than normal.

Think of it like pins-and-needles you get when your foot falls asleep. Just walking on it hurts. Erza is now being tortured with that sensation over her entire body.

I misunderstood, sorry about that

So yes, my bad.

You... you made me go to tv tropes... You owe me three hours of my life... Nah, luckily I'm used to it and didn't click any links
And I totally din't try to hunt down that pilot chapter out of curiosity.

huh, I never knew Hirano or Haruhi's creator did that... I guess the Japanese are just more open in that regard. Well, some of them. While I'd say it's nothing to be ashamed of, I can see how people would be afraid to lose credibility or something.

Teehee~

I believe for some of them it's an "old shame". Like, hell, Haruhi, the manga, did actually start as a full on eroge/hentai esque thing, and that's pretty ridiculous.

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Nope. Or if so its pretty well hidden and nobody has figured out the penname. He seems to have made it on winning a competition to launch Rave which was his first full work. Only one I can find before that is a one-shot named Magician he used to win the competition.

Also his art style isn't really very hentai for all the naked ladies its too 'abstact' if you will. You can check Tenjou Tenge or Hellsing for what I mean, they have a certain, grit to the style.

It takes all styles. I for one think that if Hiro was a primarly hentai artist, he's have a TON of fans, since his art style is really good for stacked characters, and he IS good at doing expressions and the like.

I do see what you mean about Hellsing's art work having more of an edge to it.

@Cen: Sorry

[Olinser]

Although I will say that it isn't necessarily an automatic career killer.

It was fairly widely known, even before it started, that the author of Shokugeki no Souma (which is an AWESOME series btw) is a previous hentai artist.

[LaZodiac]

Although I will say that it isn't necessarily a killer.

It was fairly widely known that the author of Shokugeki no Souma (which is an AWESOME series btw) is a previous hentai artist.

He's about as subtle as Oh Great! was at hiding this fact. I hope he's able to keep the quality he's got, instead of...becoming Oh Great!. Also, I still need to read Souma...

[Olinser]

He's about as subtle as Oh Great! was at hiding this fact. I hope he's able to keep the quality he's got, instead of...becoming Oh Great!. Also, I still need to read Souma...

You should pick it up dude. It's very well done, even for a Widget series - it has cooking as it's main theme.

I think it's my 2nd most favorite comic manga I've picked up in 2013 (and that's only because The Gamer just started a few months ago ).

[LaZodiac]

You should pick it up dude. It's very well done, even for a Widget series - it has cooking as it's main theme.

I think it's my 2nd most favorite comic manga I've picked up in 2013 (and that's only because The Gamer just started a few months ago ).

I'll consider it, as a lover of food and fanservice, I'd be remiss to not read it.

Also, not a dude, but I'm aware it's a gender neutral term

[Soras Teva Gee]

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... tentacles!

And pretty much confirms Gray and Silver are related

[LaZodiac]

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Really glad the torture lady told him not to touch Erza because jesus ****ing christ this is getting exploitative.

Also, yes, Silver is 100% related to Gray. That isn't even a question any more. And Natsu lost! And...really quickly, too. And Franmalth likely would of beaten him as well, just with a lot more property damage. This was a good chapter except for Hiro's obsession with being a hentai artist.

[Olinser]

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Really glad the torture lady told him not to touch Erza because jesus ****ing christ this is getting exploitative.

Also, yes, Silver is 100% related to Gray. That isn't even a question any more. And Natsu lost! And...really quickly, too. And Franmalth likely would of beaten him as well, just with a lot more property damage. This was a good chapter except for Hiro's obsession with being a hentai artist.

Yeah lol wtf, did we cross into a hentai mag when I wasn't looking?

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Also, no way Natsu is down that fast. That's WAY too anticlimactic for a Fairy Tail fight. I assume either Natsu is going to break out, or Happy is going to bust him out somehow.

However, I do anticipate Natsu losing the fight and Gray showing up just in time.

[LaZodiac]

Yeah lol wtf, did we cross into a hentai mag when I wasn't looking?

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Also, no way Natsu is down that fast. That's WAY too anticlimactic for a Fairy Tail fight. I assume either Natsu is going to break out, or Happy is going to bust him out somehow.

However, I do anticipate Natsu losing the fight and Gray showing up just in time.

Yeah...Hiro's taking some lessons from Oh Great!, it looks like.

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I REALLY hope Natsu loses. As much as I am a big fan of Elfman, I also hope he "sells his soul" so the bad guys have both him AND Mira. I want our heroes to realize that not every fight will be as easy as those treasure hunters. I want our heroes to realize that putting their hands together and saying "WE BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP" won't save the day from the Apocolypse Dragon. I want them to realize that the ghost of Fairy Tail's first guild master can't save them every time they start losing.

I want Natsu to be reminded of how he felt when he fought Gildartz. I'd actually be okay if NO ONE died or was heavily injured from this other then Elfman and Mira, so long as the stuff that IS happening is treated as importantly as it is.

[Soras Teva Gee]

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Really glad the torture lady told him not to touch Erza because jesus ****ing christ this is getting exploitative.

Also, yes, Silver is 100% related to Gray. That isn't even a question any more. And Natsu lost! And...really quickly, too. And Franmalth likely would of beaten him as well, just with a lot more property damage. This was a good chapter except for Hiro's obsession with being a hentai artist.

Well it wouldn't be the first time I've seen it in a 'normal' series... or the second.

And I really wouldn't count on the fight being over personally. That's a very standard cliffhanger. Though I still see a couple of hoops to be jumped through and some partner switches before this is done with FT's inevitable victory. So you might see a defeat and/or retreat here.

[lord_khaine]

I seriously hopes this ends with a swift defeat of Natsu, as well as both Erza and Mira kidnapped and turned by Tartarous.

That way we might get a little bit of exitement

[Soras Teva Gee]

Well Mirajane is clearly going to show up brainwashed and crazy.
Erza will probably escape, because FT is seriously going to need her.

Think about it with Laxus down, Markarov never doing jack, Natsu having to fight the final boss, and Grey sure to meet Silver in battle.... does even FT have the resources to take on Mirajane, Minerva, AND Erza in battle on top of Tartarus? Something has to shake that up.

Also I think it would be emotionally redundant to have two "get ahold of yourself woman!" fights at once. Besides I think Kyouka would have done differently if that was the grand plan.

[Deathhappens]

Well it wouldn't be the first time I've seen it in a 'normal' series... or the second.

And I really wouldn't count on the fight being over personally. That's a very standard cliffhanger. Though I still see a couple of hoops to be jumped through and some partner switches before this is done with FT's inevitable victory. So you might see a defeat and/or retreat here.

*cough* Remember when we thought Hades made Wendy disappear? *cough* she was saved by literally the biggest asspull in the history of Fairy Tail yet.

Fully expect Natsu to blast that ice off himself in the next issue. It would be a sign of progress for the series as a whole if he actually stayed there and had to be rescued.