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2013-05-24, 03:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Not sure what you mean there.
The DCs avoid the trap the original fell for, but it may need to be bumped up a tiny bit. I'm not entirely sure, but off the top of my head, i think it scales almost exactly as the average roll as you level, baring items, feats etc. If you factor these in, you can probably make the rolls trivial soon (especially if you get your hands on a "always-take-10" power) and you may want to avoid that. Still, didn't do the math and it's probably no big deal anyway.
Power chord is kinda tricky, in that you won't be using it aggressively a lot, difficulty of finding a truename and all. I would add a high-DC truespeech check "backdoor", in other words you either make a highly difficult check (possibly at better odds if used helpfully) OR use a truename for it to succeed. Also, might I point out that, unless i'm misunderstanding something, only creatures (PCs and NPCs alike) of 10HD or more allow you research of their truenames. That would you only really get Power Chord at level 10. Or i'm horribly wrong.
Whammy bar is an interesting mechanic, my only concern is that a d10 is an average 5.5, compared to the 6 you give up on. That means a negligible negative modifier, so you may or may not want to check this. Some very minor scaling with charisma or truespeak, perhaps?
Anthem of Awesome is, well, awesome. Simple and powerful, perfect for a lvl15 power.
Power Ballad is strong and solid, except for truename reliance and the issues linked with it.
Finally, PtyFB is great, the short of thing that ought be at lvl20.
Bottom line, things look generally solid. If I'm a little harsh, it's cause i'm a tweaker by nature, even perfection can take some improvement. Only really important thing, you may want to modify personal truename rules or add a supporting-replacement-thingy along, something easier to get, to substitute truenames for lesser effect. Maybe a riff that "strikes true" to the target's truename, which you can find with a good roll in-combat and only lasts for a little while?Last edited by malonkey1; 2013-05-24 at 05:19 PM.
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2013-05-24, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
I mean that the Law you adapted was to make sure truenamers use variety, instead of their 2 or 3 best utterances only. But that failed miserably. So, removing the "not the same utterance on all" is a good idea, but you may need something for "not only shouting around their favorite words", since even then they'll only need to use their "rank 2 utterance" after they've spent 1 round per target using their best, and that's assuming they haven't expired yet.
One idea would be to make repeated use of a small subset of utterances punishable by increased DC. Like, "after you've used x utterances in the day, if any one was more than y% of uses, it gets +z on it's DC". But that will be hard to make work on low levels (unless you come up with some great idea) and is generally a big task. If you feel like the dive, you could try.
Derp me. That makes more sense.
Also, something i forgot. I haven't played much casters, let alone truenamers, so i'm not sure how satisfactory it is to get an extra spell/utterance. But i'm kinda afraid that your "power of rock" levels gravely overshadow the rest, which means you've got a lot of dead levels.
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2013-05-24, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Well, from my experience, a new utterance is about on par with getting a new Invocation for Warlocks, or getting extra spells known or spell slots for casters. It's an important component.
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2013-05-24, 05:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Then i'm just greedy XD
Think you had 1 dead level though, somewhere between 3 and 6 if i recall, 1 level before the first "tool" uterance? Unless if something important, non-class happens there.
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2013-05-24, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
could someone peach my class please :)
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2013-05-24, 07:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yup, you're right up next :D Gotta deal with some homework due soon too, though, so it should be ready by tomorrow night. Gave it a look, looks pretty solid (apart from some typos, like a missing word in "i don't love you").
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2013-05-24, 08:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-05-25, 03:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
I'll have to withdraw my participation to this challenge, as my inspiration for it seems to have abandoned me.
If I ever get near being satisfied with what I've made I'll post it elseware on this forum.
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2013-05-25, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-05-25, 01:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Same here :D kinda over our heads, aren't we? :P
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I don't love you: Pretty simple and good, only detail of note is a typo:
Word missing where the cyan question mark is. I suppose it says enemies, or something fluffier.
Blood!: The DC is a little low-ish. I'm not too sure about the "HD/2" part, as their HD usually corresponds with level your perform ranks grow at least by 1 per level, not to mention the extra 3, stat modifiers, feats and tools. Generally, the "10+" part counters the d20 (with an average result of 10.5). So unless you want the roll eventually trivial, i'd make that a simple "10+HD" (maybe with a personal DC instead of a "stronger HD in group" one), and if you want the roll to be generally easy i'd reduce the flat bit (the 10+).
The sharpest lives and it's younger sibling seem solid, maybe a save is needed though. The "welcome" one might be a little dip-friendly too, but that's probably ok.
House of wolves: What worries me here is their number. At level 20, you summon 11-14 shadow mastiffs. The problem is not power, but a) their turns are going to take a LONG time and b) room issues. we're talking 14 squares occupied, it will be troublesome to do anything even if you don't use them as a wall. I would instead have them empowered by your level. Also, as BelGareth said, add a line about them "singing" with you to keep it justified.
Cancer: It's ok, keeping with your tragic theme, but I really like BelGareth's idea of the... results... of a blindness-and-deafness-except-me spell. And it sounds really dark :P
Disenchanted: DC ought scale with the caster level, maybe 10+caster level+caster's casting stat mod is fair. Again, 10=d20, caster level=perform and his mod=your mod on perform.
Famous last words is solid methinks
Also, early levels have a few dead ones between them (for clarity, that means levels where nothing is gained). Other than that, pretty good job overall! GG!
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2013-05-27, 05:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
The Themeweaver is eventually, and finally, done. Unless he isn't. In any case, I have for now even completed the "behind the curtain" section, which some may find interesting.
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2013-05-27, 06:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Hope you all don't mind last minute entries. I just realized what the contests theme was last night, and an idea came to me.
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2013-05-28, 04:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-05-28, 04:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Well, since this contest has come to a close, I'd like to submit "Steam and Sorcery" (that is, steampunk) as a potential theme for a later contest.
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2013-05-28, 04:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Cyan burns the eyes of the weak.
Damn those DM notes.
Also, it looks like sirpercival finished, if I'm not mistaken. The only thing is that the little bit of fluff right above the game rule information is missing.
And in swoops the dragon for his last-minute entry. Excellent.
At any rate, there are still just under nineteen and a half hours left in the contest, so any more last-minute work can still be done.
And for the newcomers, votes for the theme of the contest are welcome from everybody. A tally will be started and then the contest will start with the most popular theme.
We've had a steampunk contest already, but if votes come in for another, I'm not opposed to it, I reckon. It was Base Class Contest VII - You've Been PUNK'D!, for reference.Homebrew
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2013-05-28, 07:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yes, I managed to squeak it in while soothing the new baby (who arrived early thursday morning).
Not my most polished work, I'll admit, for obvious reasons (I have a bunch more soulmeld ideas that I'll add after the contest, and some supporting material as well)... I expect it'll be the end of my streak, but c'est la vie -- I'm glad I completed it, at least.
Can we get a repost of the categories from last time?(member in good standing of the troll-feeder's guild)
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2013-05-28, 09:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-05-28, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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{table=head]Theme|Votes|Voters
Something Bad Luck|0|
Slack and Hash (food)|0|
Madness|2|Zaydos, inuyasha
Inner Planes|0|
Time|0|
Alternate Magic|0|
NPCs|0|
Steam and Sorcery|1|malonkey1
SPAAAAAACE|1|BelGareth
Metagaming MAAAAANNNIIIIAAAAAA|1|Pyromancer999[/table]
Congrats, man, and good luck.
I'm glad I completed it, at least.
Can we get a repost of the categories from last time?
Base Class Contest II - Altar of Naught and Base Class Contest VIII - One Small Step for a Contest...One Giant Step for Contestkind.
Again, not opposed to either. Just pointing out that they've been done, if you really want something original.Last edited by Temotei; 2013-05-29 at 03:01 PM.
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2013-05-28, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Thank you!
I have ideas for all of these, though I'd like to vote against "alternate magic", since that's a mechanical requirement more than a theme... you can have alternate magic in any of the other categories.(member in good standing of the troll-feeder's guild)
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2013-05-28, 07:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
I vote inner planes
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2013-05-28, 07:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
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“Gnyðja mundu nú grísir, ef þeir vissi, hvat inn gamli þyldi” -Ragnar Lodbrok
"I have a high art; I hurt with cruelty those who would damage me." -Archilochus
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2013-05-28, 07:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
We could expand it to just "The Planes"...
(yay, Planeswalker)Last edited by sirpercival; 2013-05-28 at 07:50 PM.
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2013-05-28, 07:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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inner planes, on the chart, AKA heaven, hell, asgard, gehenna, the abyss etc
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2013-05-28, 07:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-05-28, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
I vote Madness.
Though I do love me some Inner Plane stuff.Peanut Half-Dragon Necromancer by Kurien.
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2013-05-28, 08:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
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“Gnyðja mundu nú grísir, ef þeir vissi, hvat inn gamli þyldi” -Ragnar Lodbrok
"I have a high art; I hurt with cruelty those who would damage me." -Archilochus
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2013-05-28, 08:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Woo! Very last minute entry on my part. It's the Conductor, based on the Song Summoner game for the iOS. If anyone would want to give feedback at this late hour, it'd be welcome.
As for the next contest theme, I think a meta-game theme could be fun.
Failing that, of course, madness would get my vote.Newest Work: Pyromancer - My submission for Base Class Contest X
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2013-05-28, 10:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-05-29, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Base Class Challenge Chat Thread III: Gotta 'Brew 'Em All!
Like I said, I'm totally okay with themes that have been done. The ones on the list have been voted for previously.
Also, inuyasha, feel free to add to the list if you want to vote for outer planes.
Table updated, by the way. When a new page starts, I'll post the table again.Last edited by Temotei; 2013-05-29 at 03:01 PM.
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2013-05-29, 05:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Voting thread is up. Plenty of entries this time and all of them look really rocking.
Good luck and keep the theme votes coming.Homebrew
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