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2012-11-14, 09:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
I remember that post. I love how awkwardly worded it is.
And yeah, that pic was a while back. Like three threads ago, or something like that, so that goes to show how long I've been gone. Been too busy moving all over the place (which I may have to do again soon...ugh...), and I got back into forum roleplaying too. So there have been many distractions with this poor soul.Last edited by Laser Frog; 2012-11-14 at 09:35 PM.
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2012-11-14, 10:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
*Begins trying to figure out potential knocking combinations*
Ah, I'm sorry to hear it.
Well, that makes things easier...
Yeah, I am fairly bad about this. I was actually semi-surprised to learn SiuiS was not in fact a pony >.>This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
Ponythread Learns to Draw!
SpoilerBleeeeh! Alfalfa Monster!
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2012-11-14, 11:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-14, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
*Hugs Phee, Lucy and Lea*
SpoilerI think both my depression and my dysphoria are usually about 1 or maybe 2... But sometimes I get flashbacks that can raise the former to about 4, and if I haven't been shaving the dysphoria can raise to maybe 3 (it can occasionally get worse, but isn't likely to unless I've missed a lot of days and happen to get depressed for some other reason). They tend to get worse right when I'm going to bed, though sometimes they don't.
Getting them both at once is... Unpleasant. I'm not sure where to rate them, considering that I can't really speak or move for a while when it's at its worst. >.>
Fortunately, I just got a new (cordless!) razor... It should be a lot easier to keep from getting overwhelmed now.
X3
In other news, our Tainiste (second to the Taoiseach, who is like our Prime Minister) has started to make pro-marriage noises, and apparently the public is now something like 73% in favour of marriage for same-sex couples, so I'm hoping we'll make progress on this soon!
Welcome back~! ^_^
SiuiS isn't a pony?
~Bianca
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2012-11-14, 11:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Sorry if I missed anyone, I didn't really keep track of the thread that well the last few days.
I don't think it's that odd that you hadn't really thought about it before reading this thread. A lot of my gender stuff was very subconscious before I met a genderqueer friend of mine and just blurted out that I was confused about my gender one evening.
I hope you manage to figure out stuff, but don't pressure yourself about it, take your time to work it all out. And just remember, we're here to help you out if you need us.
Neat costume! Sounds like you had a great time.
That was really beautiful. I'm not sure what to say, but tons of hugs for you, Lentrax.
Well, for me having a female avatar comes with a good feeling. Even before I figured stuff out I used female avatars all the time and played female characters cause I just felt more comfortable with that. Having a female avatar just means I can feel a bit more me and can forget about the whole body thing a bit more.Last edited by Astrella; 2012-11-14 at 11:39 PM.
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2012-11-15, 01:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
This Machine Surrounds Hate And Forces It To Surrender
Ponythread Learns to Draw!
SpoilerBleeeeh! Alfalfa Monster!
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2012-11-15, 01:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Huh. Gender identity just couldn't matter less to me, especially when it comes to avatars or characters. Unless the person's (yes, characters I create become separate people in my head) gender identity matters to them as part of their character, I usually flip a coin or roll a die to determine their sex and or sexual preferences.
Raises an interesting question. I don't understand dysmorphia, gendered behavior, certain romantic concepts (only romantically interested in potential sexual partners, only romantically interested in one person, some others which I'm not sure how to describe). These ideas, which seem extremely common in the general population, just fail to stick. Like trying to grab a bead of mercury with chopsticks. I've learned to mouth the motions, identify the pattern, but I can't claim to understand them. But the people I create in my head understand them just fine, to the point they're frequently important parts of the person's identity. And I ask them to explain it to me, because after all they are a part of me so they should be compatible with the rest of my brain, and they can't. What does that say about me?
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2012-11-15, 01:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
I think it says about you that you are not omniscient and thus (seeing your ability to grasp grammar and language) that you are a human being. the fact that you don't understand them becuase you haven't experienced them is normal. I too don't really understand genderdysphoria, but that is because I look upon my dangling bits with a love bordering on narcissism (ok, slight hyperbole) and I feel quite comfortable in my role as man as endorsed by society. As long as you try to understand someone's motives and behavioral patterns you can still do the whole 'i can imagine trick'. when people talk about bad cases of genderdysphoria I don't understand it, but I can imagine that it bothers them. Do I really understand? No. Do I understand enough to care and express supporting sentiments? Yes. Will I ever really understand? Maybe, when the phenomenon happens to me, but not with any certainty. And it's the same for any other behavior that isn't part of my own. I think that ultimately all you can ask another for is to understand enough to be able to care, nothing more.
Warlock Poetry?
Or ways to use me in game?
Better grab a drink...
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2012-11-15, 03:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-15, 03:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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You are welcome. This is something I live with every day, but having shared it with others helps a lot more than I ever thought it would. Everyone who read it, thank you. It is a testament to the love and understanding everyone finds here, that you are so amazing, that I felt comfortable sharing this with you.
Thank you.
Well, Kender, I agree you are blonde, and IMO, the exact right size.
And the fact that both of you care enough to try and understand what they are and what they mean to many of us who do experience those kinds of feelings, means that you are both incredible human beings. People who care about how others feel. People who believe that people are people, and it doesn't matter how or who they are, they are amazing people of their own, and you like them despite or because of it.
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2012-11-15, 03:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
SpoilerExcept that I can't even seem to manage that level of understanding. I can confirm that someone is being bothered, but I can't even grasp the foundations of why. I can visualize pain, coming from a physical or mental injury, but if I can't visualize something as an injury I can't understand why or how it would cause that pain, even as I recognize it as pain and want to stop it. It makes me feel like a doctor before modern medicine. A man comes in complaining of pain, yet to all senses and examination is whole and well. You can't deny that he's in pain, because he clearly is, and it is your job to ameliorate the pain, but he responds to none of the treatments you have studied and continues to show no evidence of injury or disease, even to the point of causing himself injury that you can see by trying to dig out the root of his suffering. What do you do? Send him on his way with commiserations, strap him down to prevent him doing to himself what he clearly believes to be the best option, teach him to live with the pain?
And when I encounter a new case that falls under the auspices of that-which-I-do-not-understand, I am woefully unprepared to deal with it. My prediction rate for how someone will react, or how they'll expect me to react, or what is and isn't appropriate based on previous experience using my models drops to a third of its normal value. I file away the incident, and analyze it later to try and fit it into my model of human behavior. Or... alternatively, I can draw up one of the characters I've modeled from storage in the back of my mind who seems to have relevant beliefs and ask their opinion. And their predictions are many times better than mine. So clearly some part of me understands it, but whatever part of my brain responsible for the insight doesn't talk to my "central mind" when I need it.
And this is why I hate English. I'm pretty sure I just failed to say what I'm trying to say *again,* but I can't think of a better way to say it. The structure of the thought seems so elegant in my head, and when I put it in english to share... It's like a jellyfish. In its natural element, it's a beautiful, dynamic, and delicate thing, and when it's pulled out of that element it's a big, ugly, shapeless, gooey blob that smells bad and can sting you.
Apologies, I'm on a weird kick at the moment. I'm pondering a lot of the way I feel alienated from normal society. Some of it, I at least have in common with others. Non-heteronormative attitudes, for example. I can come here and soak up the love and support whenever I start feeling targeted and ostracized by certain parts of society. Other things I've never met anyone who I can communicate the ideas to, or vice versa, so even if thousands of other people go through it I have no way of knowing. So when I started worrying about gender and sexuality with the characters I make to send out into games or the online world, I start thinking about mental partitioning and sorting, and consciousness shaping, and how I don't have words which adequately describe these and the existential issues they raise for me. I've occasionally toyed with the concept of "neutering" my mind down to my "Richard" persona which I use for most of my interactions with other people, but I'm not sure I could make it stick and the idea of limiting myself to a single, fixed partition is... not scary, but bad. An option of last resort.
I'm a sick puppy.
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2012-11-15, 03:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
thank you, this is a great compliment.
Ok, removing the spoilers, since a part by part reaction is coming in 3.. 2.. 1..
and that's what I try to tell you. You udnerstand the fact that there is a pain, you have a vague idea of where it could come form, but you don't really understand. and when you see it in people you care for you are at a loss of words and start, for lack of a better explanation, experimenting with things you can do, hoping to find something that you can do/use to help. I would like to refer to Lentrax' post that the acknowlegement of the phenomenon is what helps (and the subsequent treatment of a human being which I find only logical, though apparently this isn't the way the rest of the world works for some alien reason).
And when I encounter a new case that falls under the auspices of that-which-I-do-not-understand, I am woefully unprepared to deal with it. My prediction rate for how someone will react, or how they'll expect me to react, or what is and isn't appropriate based on previous experience using my models drops to a third of its normal value. I file away the incident, and analyze it later to try and fit it into my model of human behavior. Or... alternatively, I can draw up one of the characters I've modeled from storage in the back of my mind who seems to have relevant beliefs and ask their opinion. And their predictions are many times better than mine. So clearly some part of me understands it, but whatever part of my brain responsible for the insight doesn't talk to my "central mind" when I need it.
a few years ago we had a commercial saying the in the past gained results guarantee nothing for future. Back then it was aimed at financial products (stocks, futures, etc.), but it is very applicable to your situation.
Besides: You can't always do things right the first time. teh fact that you make mistakes and learn form them makes you a good person. it marks you as a person who is looking for growth and wants to do good.
And this is why I hate English. I'm pretty sure I just failed to say what I'm trying to say *again,* but I can't think of a better way to say it. The structure of the thought seems so elegant in my head, and when I put it in english to share... It's like a jellyfish. In its natural element, it's a beautiful, dynamic, and delicate thing, and when it's pulled out of that element it's a big, ugly, shapeless, gooey blob that smells bad and can sting you.
Apologies, I'm on a weird kick at the moment. I'm pondering a lot of the way I feel alienated from normal society. Some of it, I at least have in common with others. Non-heteronormative attitudes, for example. I can come here and soak up the love and support whenever I start feeling targeted and ostracized by certain parts of society. Other things I've never met anyone who I can communicate the ideas to, or vice versa, so even if thousands of other people go through it I have no way of knowing. So when I started worrying about gender and sexuality with the characters I make to send out into games or the online world, I start thinking about mental partitioning and sorting, and consciousness shaping, and how I don't have words which adequately describe these and the existential issues they raise for me. I've occasionally toyed with the concept of "neutering" my mind down to my "Richard" persona which I use for most of my interactions with other people, but I'm not sure I could make it stick and the idea of limiting myself to a single, fixed partition is... not scary, but bad. An option of last resort.
I'm a sick puppy.
*brohug*Warlock Poetry?
Or ways to use me in game?
Better grab a drink...
Currently ruining Strahd's day - Avatar by the Outstanding Smuchsmuch
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2012-11-15, 06:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Thorrific! You look amazing as the Thunderer.^_^
I hope your hope proves true! It would be grand to see Ireland get ahead.
That is the saddest and most beautiful thing I have read in a long time.
*HUGS*
No idea, I certainly do it. :3
@Golentan: I think that sounds very normal. Sentient beings may be much similar, but we are vastly different too. To some, what seems insignificant to me is more important than all the history and art in human experience. In fact, just me saying that may confuse someone who has little interest in those. To understand everybody is an enormous task, so do not fear because you cannot overcome it just yet.
You might even understand others more than you think, the targeting and ostracising is a huge part of what makes dysphoria painful, in my experience. The constant and often unintentional enforcement of you being someone else makes it much harder to examine one's identity than it should. Perhaps looking at it like that may get you closer to understanding it? ^_^
Also, you are not a sick puppy. You are a hopefully-not-having-a-cold-or-worse Golentan. :3Treasured Quotes
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2012-11-15, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
The weird thing is, when I'm scrolling down and haven't gotten all the way to the post yet, and I see the avatar before reading the name, I mistake you for Helio a lot. It's the hat.
Try again at 230K?
(Mercury is solid at that temperature.) Which is to say, I don't really know. I have a lot of trouble understanding other people too, but I don't have characters in my head who do seem to understand. Seems like an odd experience.
(Oh--I have a friend who's asexual, but many of her characters are sexual, and they seem to get it but she doesn't. Sounds like a similar situation.)Jude P.
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2012-11-15, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Found another article people might be interested in; it's about Sweedish schools de-emphasising gender roles.
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2012-11-15, 09:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Hey guys! Sorry I haven't been posting as much recently; I've still been here, honest!
I'm just dropping in to give *hugs* to Lentrax, Golly, Kender, Lena, and anyone else who asks for some.
Okay, I'll be back! *Flies away is a rush of flame*
~Phoenix~"It is important to draw wisdom from many different places. If you take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale." --Iroh
LGBTAitP! If you want to talk, learn, or have some fun, stop by!
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2012-11-15, 10:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Co-Founder of LUTAS.
For all you lesser superheroes out there.
Custom STO avatar by Durkoala.
A novella about a wizard and a rock star, cross-dimensional travel, and healing wounds neither knew were there.
Spoiler: Online stuffsLentrax has a Deviantart now, check it out!
Streaming Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 11CST on Twitch.
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2012-11-15, 12:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
Thank you both for your kind words. I guess I just need more time till I feel like I actually know who or what I am. Normally I wouldn't care that much and just say "I'm me, everything else doesn't matter", but sometimes my mind goes crazy and then I wish I had a nice fitting label to hold on to. But it certainly helps to have an other place than my diary where I can express my confusing thoughts, and get answers other than the ones the voices in my head give me.
(I could of course talk to my parents, I'm sure they'd be supportive and everything, but I don't like talking about things when I'm not completely sure myself. )
I feel honored that you trust us enough to share your story with us. It's so sad and beautifully written, I don't know what to say. *hugs*You can call me Juniper. Please use gender-neutral pronouns (ze/hir (preferred) or they/them) when referring to me.
"We all are vessels of our brokenness, we carry it inside us like water, careful not to spill. And what is wholeness if not brokenness encompassed in acceptance, the warmth of its power a shield against those who would hurt us?" - R. Lemberg, Geometries of Belonging
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2012-11-15, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well opinions you can get here at little to no cost to you.
And thank you. But it is I who am honored to have a group of wonderful, caring, lovely people who care about how I feel.
Thank you all for being here for me to share my life and yours.
Co-Founder of LUTAS.
For all you lesser superheroes out there.
Custom STO avatar by Durkoala.
A novella about a wizard and a rock star, cross-dimensional travel, and healing wounds neither knew were there.
Spoiler: Online stuffsLentrax has a Deviantart now, check it out!
Streaming Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 11CST on Twitch.
Follow me on Twitter!
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2012-11-15, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
I did have pigtails once. I could do pigtails now, actually, but I plan on cutting my hair very soon, and then I won't have long enough hair for pigtails.
Probably, also the purple hair is quite the game-changer.
Thank you!
Thank you! I like the train one too, actually.
Thank you!
Thank you! I'm having weight issues but all tangled up with general body issues and disability and illness issues and stuff. I feel pretty safe posting a photo here, I don't think anyone here is going to say "You're fat and ugly and should be ashamed", but it's really nice to get the opposite.
Thank you!
Hugs!!
Re: Dysphoria: I try to understand it by starting with my body issues and imagining it being about parts and presentation rather than (or along with) size and shape and then putting the kind of feeling I get when that's really really bad with the kind of feeling I get when I'm really insecure and anxious, and then sort of imagining it in a different colour or flavour. Or something.
Re: Lentrax's story. I feel I should say, I'm not ignoring your story, I was going to read it but then people were saying it was really sad and I've had to stop reading or watching sad things because I get hilariously upset. Except it's not actually hilarious, it's more awkward and unpleasant and spirals into further upset, so reading something sad is just not something I feel I can do right now. (In fact, my aunt just published a novel and I can't read it for this reason... I mean, technically, I can, but I really don't like crying for aaaages. Maybe later.)
Cheerfairy, Kenderwoman and Geologist by Succubus, Feminist Geomancer by Astrella, Kender Wizard by me
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2012-11-15, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
*tons of hugs for Goly and seconding Keveak and Socratov*
Oh, and I really get the frustration about language. Trying to put things into words feels like I'm trying to pick up brittle leaves in autumn only to have the crumble to dust in my clumsy hands.
That's pretty cool.
*hugs and waves*
Hm hm, having a label to hold on to is a nice thing; just remember that the label is supposed to fit you and not you who has to fit the label~
One thing that helped me a ton in figuring stuff out what just talking and reading about it a lot, looking up other people's perspectives and all that.
I'm really glad you've found a place like that here.
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A nice article about role models; and trans* role models in particular.
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2012-11-15, 04:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh yeah. Earlier I saw an email from someone--I think the Ultraviolet people?--asking people to send in holiday gift suggestions that refute the standard sparkly-pink-princesses archetype of gifts for girls.
Jude P.
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2012-11-15, 04:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
A chemistry set?
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Oooh, and that's a bad miss.
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2012-11-15, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sounds dangerous. My Orgo prof. told a story about his daughter playing with his modelling sets and asking him to name the fantastic compounds she came up with.
I don't remember if it was supposed to be "gender-neutral gift ideas" or "strong female lead" movies, books, &c.Jude P.
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2012-11-15, 04:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow!
What age are we talking about?
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Oooh, and that's a bad miss.
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2012-11-15, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-15, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-15, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-15, 05:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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I wish I'd gotten one as a kid. Then again, I think my parents wisely knew I'd probably end up setting fire to the cats with it. Granted, I wouldn't have had to go out of my way to do so with how many there were around the house, about 50-50 whether it'd be a self-inflicted catfire, really.
I'm sure your gedonkle would appreciate it too.
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2012-11-16, 12:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Back in the day, we were all like Cats Cats Cats!
I'M ON CRACK! (It's a song okay?)
I prefer short hair. Long hair is just a pain in the neck. Or scalp. Whatever.Alexander leah and Kymme deserves much love and appreciation.
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