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2012-11-30, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-30, 02:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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UK pony comic availability: it apparently arrived in the Forbidden Planet in Cambridge a couple of days ago (28th), but it's sold out until Wednesday. It's available for order on their site but I'm not sure how many they have.
By the way Anarion...
SpoilerIs ?Last edited by Bryn; 2012-11-30 at 02:16 PM.
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2012-11-30, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-30, 02:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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About as stable as a pigpen, I'd say. (I'll just flee before y'all start hurling tomatoes, shall I?)
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I'm amazed; Trixie and I are actually agreeing on something. Let the celebration commence! Kazoos for everypony!I run a Let's Play channel! Check it out!
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2012-11-30, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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If brute force isn't working, that just means you're not using enough of it.
When in doubt, set something on fire. If not in doubt, set something on fire anyway.
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2012-11-30, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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"So, let me get this straight. Your brother lost his company, and he's blaming me, for beating him in a card game."
"That is correct"
"You're some kind of moron, you know that kid."
SpoilerTo be fair, we still don't even know Trixie's "profession" that well. She could have been shamed in her profession, ruining her career. I'm with you on Babs Seed though. She's still a kid.
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2012-11-30, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Tomorrow's Episode
SpoilerI know that feeling, it can easily approach nightmare fuel levels. This sort of messing with a pony's body kinda make me cringe as well, but it's something the show has always been taking very lightly. They regularly mess with ponies in this way and don't seem to worry one bit about it.
I remind myself that Twilight can probably return them to normal with a flick of her horn, or that all magical transmutations are inherently temporary, but still, I agree that in a perfect world they wouldn't treat this sort of thing so casually.
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2012-11-30, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's the wrong Cambridge. Sorry if you were hoping to track me down. I'm at Harvard in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
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SpoilerI think the fact that the show takes it lightly is a sign that there's not as much need to worry. Pinkie has been melodramatic before, I suspect that even though she was obviously upset, it's more of a "why can't I have cake right now?!" problem than some kind of permanent and shocking horror.
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2012-11-30, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ponies not only make ME want to be a better person than I was before they entered my life, they make me want to HELP OTHERS be better people too.
And that is a GOOD thing by any definition.
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2012-11-30, 03:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Trixie
SpoilerThe thing that makes it so upsetting is not what Trixie does, but that apparently the ponies have no way of resisting her. If we saw Pinkie dodging wildly until she was randomly hit, that would make it a lot easier to swallow. The impression here is that Trixie can do whatever she likes with them and they can't do a damn thing about it.
I suspect some people find this very upsetting because of associations with something very, very serious and in the show it is treated so casually.
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2012-11-30, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ask, and ye shall receive.
Disclaimer; Real Flugelhorn looks nothing like a Crystal Flugelhorn.
Though apparently the Double-Belled Flugelhorn is much closer.
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2012-11-30, 03:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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E5
SpoilerI get that. I understand that it's to show Trixie as The Big Bad™ of the episode, but it doesn't stop me being kinda creeped out by it.
I know I'm over thinking it. It's not going to be permanent. It's like the poison joke: Annoying and/or upsetting for the pony affected but ultimately harmless. I'm repeating to myself "It's just a show. I should really just relax."
Then that treacherous part of my brain thinks: but what if it was permanent? What if Twilight can't fix it? Pinkie has no mouth and she must scream.
Arg, I hate feeling like that. It's a cartoon, dammit! And I'm not the one who over-analyses these things usually. I'm content to just watch and laugh and squee at cute ponies.
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Que?
Ren and Stimpy? Was that the "no sir" bit? I couldn't remember where I'd gotten that from.
SpoilerGlad to know I'm not the only one. I'm not going to let it ruin the episode for me though. Just gotta look at the funny side, I guess. I do hope Trixie gets some comeuppance for this though. Sorry, but I really think she deserves it this time. ^^:
Preview edit: I agree with you that it's not so much what she does as the fact that she does it when they can't resist. I find myself putting myself in those pony's shoes. If I had some magician suddenly magic off my mouth I'd be both terrified and infuriated. Again, I figure that's the point: to show that she's the Bad Guy™ this episode. To make the view want her to be defeated.
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2012-11-30, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Turns out, Jazz Flugelhorn is a really great sound.
Just need to talk some musically minded and/or PMV type bronies into sorting out a pinkie-plays-the-flugelhorn thing now. It'd be great.
Pinkie playing the Flugelhorn, all smooth and mellow, Octavia strumming the bass, Spike and/or Scootaloo on piano, who gets the drums though, I wonder? Hmmm.
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2012-11-30, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-30, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Excuse me, I'll just go over here to the peaceful corner so my mind can blow without disturbing anyone.
My evaluation of band ponies:
Octavia has the bass, of course.
Pinkie on Flugelhorn.
Dash on Drums. Who else is awesome enough?
Spike on piano, as you say.
I could see Applejack on a sax.I run a Let's Play channel! Check it out!
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2012-11-30, 04:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-30, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Do you wonder if Snips and Snails remind you of Bulk and Skull, except people will prefer Bulk and Skull?
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2012-11-30, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Part of my standing order at Forbidden Planet - though it's been officially part of my orders for a month or two, since I put it on as soon as it showed up on the website - before it got delayed, I think - (I think it should be up to issue 3 or something), because of the delay, so I'm assuming they're sending it out special-like because it's "late."
That's not much of a shouty battle-cry is it?
C'mon ponythread, we can do better!
Also why in the hey is this the only pony She-Ra image (and of Adora at that) I could find?!
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Where's all this dang R-whatever-number-it-is-P then? Surely some of you ponythread artists could take a crack at this sadly lacking issue... I mean, the silly parody opportunties alone...!
Also, in other news, convention again tomorrow, so possible more Humorous Pictures. Maybe.Last edited by Aotrs Commander; 2012-11-30 at 05:15 PM.
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2012-11-30, 05:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ponies not only make ME want to be a better person than I was before they entered my life, they make me want to HELP OTHERS be better people too.
And that is a GOOD thing by any definition.
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2012-11-30, 05:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerUm, that was precisely my point - no matter what spell protagonists will use, someone will argue it was 9th level spell or Epic magic, same with ability check - anything reducing required score will be ignored to provide most impressive numbers
That being said, sorry, neither of the spells you mentioned will cut it in this case, due to size of library, complexity of dress, and body changes. I'd accept it if you needed only small rule bending, but... By pure D&D, Telekinesis at 15th spellcaster level moves less than 180 kg, meaning it was at least Telekinetic Sphere, you'd need at least 2x Polymorph Any Object for RD/Pinkie, and that if we don't treat Pinkie scene as rewriting reality with Wish replicating it
Even at the BB episode, IIRC, Trixie used multiple Major Images and Lightning Bolt, which would put her at at least 6-7th level.
Eh, fair enough
SpoilerI don't buy Golden Rule. You know why? Because it's too simplistic and easy to abuse. Does masochist have licence to punch everyone in the face? I don't think so.
That said, CMC gave Babs positive attention, friendship, tried to do everything for her and were bullied in return. Negative for positive. What Trixie did? Only what Mane 3 felt perfectly appropriate to give to pony they didn't liked, ridicule - only double dose. By your standard, she was perfectly within Golden Rule, only giving back what they felt they can give to someone who was trying to work. Case of the masochist above, no one forced AJ and RD to start anything, they did it willingly.
I might accept alternative explanation if you'll say what exactly was she supposed to do instead - go somewhere else with empty purse letting real bullies win? Call non-existent law enforcement? Simply tolerate destructive behaviour negating any entertainment value show might had?
I am sorry, Trixie is CMC of that episode, not Babs, please show me anyone who didn't feel sorry for them, same case.
SpoilerYeah, both episodes could have been avoided if anyone told RD, AJ and Rarity to simply shut up and go elsewhere if they didn't liked the show...
Also, now that I think about it, spells Trixie uses in this clip are once again turning the pony talent against him/her, but this time turned to eleven. Rarity slowly makes dresses with magic? Trixie created one instantly, perfectly tailored to Rarity's dislikes (and it looked better than most of Rarity creations, to boot...). RD is proud flier? Trixie made her wings (halfway) bigger and stronger. Pinkie breaks 4th wall? Trixie banished it to the moon. I wonder, is it her magic doing it for her, or Trixie is far smarter in spell choice than virtually everyone but Sombra so far?
Spoiler*shrug* This is one reason why I decided to not have big expectations for this one - because it has huge potential of being not awesome/over the top, but just awful.
That being said, if you stop to think about horrifying consequences, Twilight did 3 much worse things in Pinkie episode. And, to make it even more bad, she did it to neutral or even friendly parties, not someone actively hostile. So, either Twilight is even worse, or we ignore horrors of both episodes.
But frankly, when Twilight shows any kind of respect for anyone? Moustache spell - played for laughs, but it too is unpleasant body modification. Casually turning animals into fruits, using mind control, we saw this all before, Trixie is nothing new here.Come one, come all! GitP MLP Steam Group is open!
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2012-11-30, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Was this comic posted yet? I honestly don't remember.
Twilight morphing Apples to Oranges ad back--
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Trixie Episode Shout Out?
SpoilerI was reminded of Twilight Zone: The Movie with that bit.
...Um, definitely not a movie you'd like then.
Trixie Level Violence
SpoilerWell then I hope these people don't watch some of those really old 40s and 50s cartoons. What Trixie does is tame compared the violence of the old days of cartooning.
I think it'll all be okay though. As stated earlier, the creators do cater to little kids too so it can't get too serious.
Well I think that comparison just insulted Bulk and Skull
But... yes. >_>
Trixie Fridge Brilliance
SpoilerSo is Trixie like Guile from Street Fighter, the counterattack master?
That is a really awesome talent and I hope Twi brings Trixie over to her side. Its like having the Green Ranger on your side!
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2012-11-30, 06:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-30, 06:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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I dunno, Bulk and Skull were bullies, while Snips and Snails are just dullards really. I can see similarities in appearance, with the short fat one an tall skinny one.
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SpoilerI thought about some of that stuff too actually. As an example, in Boast Busters, Twilight casts a zipper over Spike's mouth. Yeah, he could just unzip it to cancel the spell, so that was fine. But what if she'd also magic'd a padlock on, or just vanished his mouth altogether? Then there's Want it Need it, and allsorts.
But she never really did it to punish anyone, or deliberately make them miserable. It was mostly just a temporary measure or just bad judgement (or bad aim). I won't comment on the Pinkie clone thing because I SO don't want to start another conversation on that.
So here's a spoiler fanart thing:
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SpoilerYeah. I think I watched an episode of that once. Do not want.Last edited by Beacon of Chaos; 2012-11-30 at 06:27 PM.
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2012-11-30, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fixed that for you.
Power Rangers in Space was, I think, the point the show hit it's very best high point, and Bulk and Skull's crowning moment of heroism, showing how far they'd come from their first season bully incarnations, was glorious.
Hell, they arguably had a better character arc than any of the Rangers have ever had, as none of the rangers lasted that long! (I was delighted to see that they'd brought back Bulk, even as comic relief as an inept samurai who appeared to have little if anything to do with the main plot in PR Samurai. It was a grand return to form with Saban taking over again...)
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2012-11-30, 06:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-30, 06:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh hell, yeah. Seriously! They started mellowing a bit and growing up (well, in intentions if not competance - they were still the comic relief) towards the end of MMPR, a trait that continued throughout the series; they ended up trying to become policemen at one point; their intentions had definatley moved towards the good-guy side.
Until Power Rangers in Space, where in a moment that actually wasn't comic relief at all, they pulled a "I am Sparacus!" and later, when the fight started, they actually lead the civilian's charge against the mooks while the Rangers were fighting other things. Crowning moment of awesome indeed.
It's quite an impressive character arc, especially for a fairly episodic children's show, and even more so for the comic relief characters.
(I can recommend Linkara's History of the Power Rangers videoes as well worth watching, as he covers Bulk and Skull in detail.)
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2012-11-30, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Tomorrow Ep:
SpoilerYou know, after looking at clip, can't shake the feeling both sides appear to be acting out of character. Mane 6 basically all shout at/insult Trixie while she didn't gave them any reason to do so yet - even Twilight and Pinkie, who ended BB Episode neutral to her. Friendship, anyone?
But then again, there is Trixie hissing 'I want REVENGE!' (with red eyes flash, to boot) in manner that would fit Sombra, not typical MLP antagonist. If that's not Evil Amulet or some sort of influence, well... Either way, we're facing something that can rapidly turn into worn cliché. Sigh...
Eh, as I said, either this Ep will be badassly over the top, or will suck through all the plot holes.Come one, come all! GitP MLP Steam Group is open!
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2012-11-30, 09:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-11-30, 09:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerUmm... Are watching the same clip? Trixie showed up and started
tormenting ponies before Twilight showed up. She is also acting in her usual
egocentric way by focussing her misfortunes on a single individual, Twilight.
The way I see it, from all indications given, Trixie is pompous and has ego the size of an Ursa Major.
Even if in Boast Busters you can claim that much of her personality is a front for her show (I've heard it nopony wants to see the Alright and Fairly impressive Trixie) but the fact is that at no point did Twilight attempt to show her up. When the Ursa Minor arrived, Twilight dealt with it to save the town, and attributed no blame onto Trixie but on the real perpetrators Snips and Snails. However Trixie instead responds in her usual third-person as if Twilight
tried to show her up and vows revenge against her.
Now she shows up and starts tormenting ponies to force Twilight to face her in a duel. Everypony is hostile to her because she is tormenting their friends with dark magic.
As far as the artifact goes. Maybe there is some possession involved. I personally feel it may be amplifying an already existing desire for revenge, which will eventually get out of control. But at this point it could as easily be that Trixie is a jerk who found just what she needs to satisfy her ego.Avatar based on artwork by Jabari Weathers