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2013-01-01, 10:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Mostly in terms of the overland/tactical battle map deal, and the inventory links back and forth between them. JA 2 doesn't seem to really use a party based AI for the overland stuff though, certainly not to the extent that M&B does. Nevertheless, there's a reasonable amount in common between the two.
So what kind of male characters are sexy for female readers, in a fantasy setting? Honest question because I'm a (hobby) comic book artist.Last edited by RPGuru1331; 2013-01-01 at 10:29 PM.
Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
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2013-01-01, 10:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-01, 10:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
I'm not sure I'd agree with fire emblem, with the way people keep emphasizing terrain - You can shoot through walls, after all! But yeah, the standard Strategy-RPG titles can do some nifty stuff. One I recall, called Hoshigami, even used a system more or less akin to TUs/AP.
Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
And then Asok was thrown out of the car.
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2013-01-01, 11:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Eh, D&D is so entirely dull, and the tactics so deeply artificial, I'd rather see something both fresh and much more organic.
I've been thinking how to come up with a decent, actually playable melee system for a while now. Rolling attack to beat a fixed number doesn't do it, and tossing in a bunch of abilities to modify that roll still comes back to the same problem that it's boring and flavorless.
At this point the best idea I have going is using opposed dice rolls to pay for different abilities, probably using non-numeric dice. Dice for weapon combat, footwork, etc are paired off, and the winner in each category gets to play an ability. Each ability requires so many symbols on the corresponding dice category to activate, and may get bonuses if you have a lot of the relevant ability. In order to simulate exhaustion, I'm thinking of requiring an ability to be refreshed before reuse. A fighter can refresh one ability a turn, but use two or three, so an all-out assault can leave a person unable to defend themselves or capitalize on an opening.
So for instance a slightly agile fighter with a sword might have a single six sided dice in sword combat labeled say (blank , single slash, single slash, double slash, single thrust, double thrust) , and another in footwork (blank, defense step, defense step. offense step, offense step, offense step). Her enemy, a clumsy orc with an axe, has only a single dice for axe combat. Due to the orc's greater strength, and different weapon his dice is (blank, single strike, single strike, double strike, double strike, trip/hook shield).
The fighter attacks, and rolls single slash, defense step. The orc rolls double strike. Since two strikes beats one slash, the orc gets to play an offensive ability. Being a stupid orc, he ignores the superior footwork of his adversary, and goes for a powerful damage ability. Let's call it Overhand Chop, which costs two strikes to activate, and does 5 damage.
The fighter however can use her superior footwork to activate Hasty Dodge, which lets her subtract 2*Defensive Footwork from any melee damage done by a single enemy. She escapes with a single point of damage.
Next turn the fighter rolls double thrust, offensive strike, while the orc gets only a single strike. Double thrust beats single strike, so the fighter can play Torso Thrust (a sword ability, costs 1 thrust, does 3 + number of thrusts damage) and, again taking advantage of her superior footwork, adds Solid Blow (+3 damage, a footwork ability). The orc doesn't have any armor, and gets skewered for 8 damage, enough to kill.
The idea is that it's fast and allows the combatants active control over how they fight. The dice and fatigue mechanic add luck, and keep a fighter from spamming the ability turn after turn, and ability activation adds a very reactive skill component. Plus there's lots of different avenues of advancement. More advanced fighters could have access to more dice, or better dice, and better, more expensive abilities to go with them. A skilled warrior thus isn't just a low-level schmuck with a big attack bonus and a heap of HP, but can obviously do things the schmuck can't.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-02, 12:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
RPGuru: Women have less socially enforced standards on what to find attractive, so you get more leeway on what to make. The aesthetic I hear amongst people I know is indeed more towards the stereotypical, more 'androgynous' builds. A little more slender, a bit longer hair, not piles of muscle.
And how about personality? Again, is the barbarian an automatic turn-off because of his personality tropes?
For example, is Khal Drogo (Game Of Thrones) sexy? I'm saying if he didn't rape a girl as his intro to the viewers (I haven't read the books).
Tengu: Play Final Fantasy Tactics, Disgaea or Fire Emblem. Or Age of Wonders 2, from PC games.
Warty: I've been thinking how to come up with a decent, actually playable melee system for a while now.
Based on my gameplay experiences, it feels like it takes elements from Dungeon Dice Monsters (never played it but loved the rules) and LOTR Tradeable Miniatures Game (or Heroclix which probably comes closer, but I loved LOTR TMG). Oh, and Heroscape (the game that comes with terrain hexes for you to make a 3D game board with).
The cool mechanic that exists in LOTR TMG is that, your hero may be well-nigh unbeatable when facing off against 1-2 low-level mooks, but if he's tactically stupid enough to let 10 mooks surround him he's dead, even if they're just low-level mooks with a single die and no special abilities. And a hero throwing himself into a large brawl (combat chain) can lend his special abilities and dice pool to it to decisively turn the tide of the brawl, but risks dying if the opponents decides to concentrate all the damage onto the hero instead of just killing some Gondorian mook soldiers. That feels realistic to me.Last edited by MLai; 2013-01-02 at 07:12 AM.
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2013-01-02, 01:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
To me, but some people prefer that sort of thing. But such a barbarian would still, almost certainly, be unreasonably attractive for, yanno, a barbarian. Which should surprise nobody, if the objective were parity, and yet...
And how about personality? Again, is the barbarian an automatic turn-off because of his personality tropes?Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
And then Asok was thrown out of the car.
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2013-01-02, 03:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-02, 09:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Yes and no. You can actually make two separate move actions. Or one single move action using both actions. The only difference is whether or not you stop between them. If you don't it's dashing.
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2013-01-02, 09:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
All Orcs Must Die or its sequel? You get to shoot orcs in the face, it has elves and it's turn based. Kind of. *Tries to keep a straight face*
A question - when you say 'piles of muscles' do you mean bulk (e.g. Arnold Scharzenegger), definition (e.g. Bruce Lee) or a combination?
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2013-01-02, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
I assume that first picture is a doctored picture to mock Rob Liefeld*. Bruce Lee's build could probably work though, at least from what a few friends/relations/mother have said about other folks. That picture's not likely to, I suspect, but the build, definitely.
*Not really, but it's fun to say.Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
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2013-01-02, 03:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Getting off the subject of what makes men attractive (although I must agree that muscles are sorely overrated in this area), I'd like to suggest the Geneforge series. The entire thing, all five of them, is only $20 on Steam*. The graphics are a bit dated, since the first game was released at the very end of 2001 (and also, Spiderweb Software tends to focus more on the story and gameplay), but they're definitely passable. Although I'm only partway through the first game, I'm having a lot of fun.
*EDIT: Apparently, it's much less on GOG, so that's always good. I think the series, from what I've seen so far, is definitely worth $20... but $7.50 is even better!
Also, I feel as though I should mention that the setting isn't exactly the typical fantasy setting... it's a bit more like magi-tech, but at the same time... not. It should be close enough to a normal high-fantasy setting that it won't be a problem, though.Last edited by The Dark Fiddler; 2013-01-02 at 03:51 PM.
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2013-01-02, 04:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Arnold Schwarzenegger was always about definition, not bulk--Mr. Universe contestants are really not "piles of muscle", they're about increasing the size of particular muscle groups. Have a look at the guys who participate in World's Strongest Men competitions; they really *are* piles of muscle, and some of them you'd even call fat, but you need to have a physique like that to pull a truck along a road or bench-press 300+ kg weights. A Mr. Universe contestant who tried that would probably herniate their abdominal muscles.
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2013-01-02, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
And bought.
So far this thread has netted me:
- Geneforge 1 - 5 (GoG version, because GoG can have all my computer babies)
- Eador: Genesis (GoG version)
- (Randomly Blitzkrieg 1 and 2, because discount + tanks = sale, according to the ancient calculus)
- Assorted Warlock DLC (Return of Elves, Artifacts, and Armageddon)
I'm still on the fence for one of the Avernum games as well. But there's no sale on, so I'm not really in any rush for that.
So far Eador seems brilliant, if a bit odd in the interface department. Not unplayable, just a bit different than what I'm used to. The Warlock DLC looks good, it's nice to have another race in the mix, and apparently the Armageddon victory condition is very hard, which is good as I had the base game pretty well nailed down.
Thanks all for your suggestions!Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-02, 07:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Geneforge is on GOG? That merits a purchase, I wasn't aware it could be.
Is Eador on sale? I didn't see anything that indicated that, and absent a demo, I'm not buying it (I don't do impulse buys.)Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
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2013-01-02, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
It's not on sale, but at the moment it's still cheaper than the Geneforge games, which are 50% off. The (very) little I've played so far is quite excellent, like a more complex Age of Wonders sort of deal. I'm not sure the combat is quite as good, but the overland seems much deeper. Mind you, to me Age of Wonder is pretty much the thing when it comes to fantasy TBS combat.
Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-02, 11:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-03, 12:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-03, 01:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-03, 02:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
And then Asok was thrown out of the car.
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2013-01-03, 02:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
I say if you're in no hurry, then wait for the modern "remake": Eador Masters Of The Broken World. It's by the same developers I think, with updated 3D graphics that has an enchanting European fairy tale feel.
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2013-01-03, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-03, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
I've kind of been in the mood for a similar type game, but all of the suggestions so far aren't quite what I'm looking for. I could really go for something that's a cross between Final Fantasy Tactics and Brigandine. Is there anything like that out there, or are these sorts of games it?
To more fine tune what I'm looking for, I want something that has deep customization of both heroes and minions, tactical combat, and minimal upkeep or empire building. Good story is a plus, but not a requirement.
I'd definitely call it an impulse buy. All of the suggestions made here I would shy away from without further checking into them. Just because a game has a high rating and is spoken highly of doesn't mean that it will be well suited for me (or for anyone else). Fallout 1 and 2 are critically acclaimed by just about everyone, but I wasted money on them because when I played I felt like I was fighting the engine rather than playing the game and eventually gave up in frustration. Nothing wrong with that, or with being cautious. Not all games are well suited for everyone.The first chapter of The Book of Svarog
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2013-01-03, 03:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-03, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'd second this - the third game (Warriors of the North) came out recently - it's also worth playing (especcially for those, who liked the previous two - while the game has some flaws, they did improve a few things (the classes & the rage system to name two) and added some new toys (vikings, rune magic, item crafting).
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2013-01-03, 04:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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That's leaving out a lot of good games just because they're old and/or indie.
@Evrine: This is probably a wash, but Tactics Ogre?Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
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2013-01-03, 04:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Try the original Age of Wonders. It's less deep on the minion customization, but gives you access to a really wide variety of them, with a reasonable amount of hero customization. Plus the combat is a lot of fun. The campaign is pretty decent as well, and some of the later battles can get fairly massive. Bodies everywhere by the end of 'em.
And there's a demo.
Barring that, if you're willing to stray outside of the fantasy realm, either Jagged Alliance 2 or Jagged Alliance: Back in Action could work. The first is the turn-based classic, the second is the real time remake. Personally I actually prefer the more recent one, as the fairly good realtime-with-pause system allows for better and more believable tactics. There's some slightly annoying bits with the interface, but it makes things like simultaneous breach and clear operations not only possible, but reasonably easy to pull off.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-03, 06:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Last edited by Hiro Protagonest; 2013-01-03 at 06:02 PM.
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2013-01-03, 06:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
That's one great advantage of the RTP system. No longer can you do stupid crap like wander into a hallway and shotgun three dudes guarding said hallway, safe in the knowledge that they'll all be full of .00 buck by the time you run out of AP. Trying that in Back in Action is a fast route to a bodybag.
The other thing that Back in Action does very nicely is let you plan out moves for your entire fireteam in advance, and then sync them all up so they execute some parts of the plan together -e.g. toss the grenade into the room right after the other guy opens the door. The planning system shows you line of sight for each step of the way, so it makes planning shots easy. Obviously because things can go all pear-shaped halfway through a plan, you can pause and edit said plan at any time.
If you really really like the combination of RTP combat, surplus Soviet assault weapons and banana republics, try 7.62: High Calibre. It's got the deepest infantry combat model of just about anything ever - it models changes in reload time based on where you store your ammunition for crying out loud. Just keep in mind the rest of the game is crap.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-03, 07:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
I checked out a few videos on these and it doesn't seem like what I'm after. It looks, at least from what I've seen so far, very similar to homm, and it appears as if your hero isn't even on the battlefield but rather stands on the sidelines. Thanks anyway.
It is, unfortunately, as it looks like it could be really interesting. I don't own any handheld systems, and acquiring the ps version would be ridiculously expensive.
I tried the demo out, and boy is that a clunky interface. I couldn't figure out how to get my elven archers to fire their bows. It also took me entirely too many turns to figure out how to create more units. Thanks anyway.
I'll keep it in mind, but for right now my non-fantasy urgings are being satisfied by xcom enemy unkown. Thanks.The first chapter of The Book of Svarog
“Everything has its time and everything dies.” ~ The Doctor (Doctor Who)
“The facts of nature are settled within the field of human argument.” ~ The Golem- What Everyone Should Know about Science by Harry Collins and Trevor Pinch.
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2013-01-03, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
The PSX version is easily emulatable, but nowhere near as customizable, so that's still no good. Ah well.
Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
And then Asok was thrown out of the car.