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2013-01-23, 11:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Launch Bolt question
Is there a way to make this an at will spell like ability in 3.5?
Had an Idea based on a post in this thread.
Is it possible to build a Meta magic specialist that focus's on launch bolt? I could see some interesting ideas... Not sure how raw it would be. I guess Sorcerer would also prolly be the better class to use.When the end comes i shall remember you.
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2013-01-23, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
Innate Spell General Feat. Swaps a slot at 8th level for 1/round SLA, complete Arcane.
Combine with Greater Magic Weapon for funsies.Last edited by Vaz; 2013-01-23 at 01:36 PM.
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2013-01-23, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
Hmm unfortunate. Innate spell while nifty seems annoying to get.
How would one go about optimizing Launch Bolt instead?When the end comes i shall remember you.
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2013-01-23, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
Well a Colossal heavy crossbow bolt deals 6d8 damage. Now get the spell to effect as many targets as possible to fire a barrage.
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2013-01-23, 03:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
True true...
Arcane thesis, and a bunch of MM's.
I was originally thinking of going something like
Focused Specialist transmuter using the combat feats ACF from the SRD.
Getting to like 5th or so then multi-classing into some sort of fighter or multi-class a bunch to get range feats.When the end comes i shall remember you.
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2013-01-23, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
I think you can chain launch bolt. You apply reach and then chain to launch CL number of bolts all at once.
No point in getting much past point blank shot/precise shot. Just don't hit the fighter. Your damage is determined by the bolt size and the number of attacks by your CL.Last edited by Fouredged Sword; 2013-01-23 at 04:09 PM.
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2013-01-23, 04:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
Well a pld of mystra could get the ability to prepare launch bolt. Battle blessing would allow her to cast it as a swift. This together would allow 2 castings per round. Metamagic reducer cheese could make these twin spelled. Swift mage could give you another casting per round.
Tricky to fit it all in but thats 6 casting altogether. 12 if you tack on repeat spell.
The real question is how are you gonna carry around all this colossal + ammunition.
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2013-01-23, 06:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
But if you eschew the material you no longer have the target "one bolt in your possession"
@Chillingsworth: It is both the component and the spell's targetLast edited by Gildedragon; 2013-01-23 at 06:38 PM.
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2013-01-23, 06:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
Colossal Bolts don't cost 1sp, they can't be the material component in question.
Also, you can only use this spell to fire bolts designed for your own size. I can't remember exactly, and AFB, but it is RAW.Last edited by IdleMuse; 2013-01-23 at 06:42 PM.
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2013-01-23, 06:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-23, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
Nope not RAW. It just says "as if you had fired it from a light crossbow" doesn't specify the size of the light crossbow. This allows one to use larger (or smaller) crossbow bolts to attack with, as long as you take the penalty associated. It does preclude Colossal bolts (assuming a medium caster), because one can only use weapons up to 1 (or 2?) size categories larger.
Eschew components will not, however, allow you to go around this as the "launch as if you had fired..." bit is in regard to the bolt the spell is cast on.Last edited by Gildedragon; 2013-01-23 at 06:58 PM.
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2013-01-23, 07:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
That assumes you're Colossal size.
You cast this spell on a crossbow bolt, causing it to fly at a target of your choice as if you had fired it from a light crossbow, using a ranged attack roll.
Plus, of course, you must find someone who will charge the Medium bolt price for a Colossal bolt.
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2013-01-23, 07:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
82lb per bolt... Roughly 30lb per cubic foot for wood... That gives us roughly three cubic feet of wood.
1/4 Pi * D^2 * L is volume. Lets say the arrow is 60x is diameter in length.
.25 * 3.14 * 1/360* L^3 = 3 volume
11.12 ft long and 2.24in thick.
This is the top end estimate for size as this discounts the existence of an arrow head from the calculation of the arrow size. 9ft long and 2in thick with a iron tip would not be a bad estimate counting for the added weight at the tip.
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2013-01-23, 08:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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So, hear me out, there is this thread asking about cheap travel spells, in reading through that and this the following idea came up.
We need a Small or smaller wizard, a medium sized, bolt-shaped, projectile, and a Twinned+Eschew Materials-ed Launch Bolt (actually, more than one, but...)
You put the wizard astride the bolt and cast away. 160 ft per round. More actually as you don't care too much about missing a landmass.
That being of course, if the casting of colossal bolts was possible.Last edited by Gildedragon; 2013-01-23 at 08:05 PM.
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2013-01-23, 08:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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For some reason this came to mind.
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2013-01-23, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
technically speaking, couldn't you use the Polymorph line to make yourself larger beforehand? It would be rather easy, in that case, to get up to Collossal.
Just not before level 11.
Anyhow, if you're using Pathfinder, there's also the feat False Focus, which lets you Eschew up to 100 Gp instead of the 1GP normal limit.
Pretty sure even collossal-sized bolts wouldn't clock in over 100GP per bolt.
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2013-01-23, 09:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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I assume you've taken into account that, say, a Ring of Launch Bolt (on command) only costs about 900-1000 gp? I've been considering getting one for my rogue for a while (well actually it was launch item, but same difference), and I'd imagine it would be quite good at most levels.
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2013-01-23, 09:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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When the end comes i shall remember you.
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2013-01-23, 09:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Launch Bolt question
That'd be at will, as the mage-hand hand
it still takes 1 standard action to use... so maybe less useful than you'd expect...