DoTA 2 One: Not to be confused with DoTA 1 Two

[Teln]

We should actually make a Giantitp guild. It'll help find games as well as serve as a resource for who all is playing. I'll start it if everyone gives me their steam names and thinks it's a good idea.

Sounds like a good idea. My Steam name's Teln, same as here. I'm also in the GitP Steam group if player search still refuses to admit that I exist.

[Reynard]

I'd be up for it, though I haven't tried playing on the american-located server and so don't know how good my ping will be.

[GreenSerpent]

I'll create one, as soon as I get home from the north of Scotland. It took me ten minutes to find the internet connection stuff...

On the plus side, saw otters and one incredibly curious seal.

[9mm]

So for useful sites:

http://www.dota2lounge.com/

decent trade site and also where people bet items on pro games. (really wish Valve implemented this in game but probably can't)

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Dota_2_Wiki

it's the wiki, good for figuring stuff out.

[Teln]

I'll create one, as soon as I get home from the north of Scotland. It took me ten minutes to find the internet connection stuff...

On the plus side, saw otters and one incredibly curious seal.

I like otters--they're just so cute and playful! Glad you're having fun, but can you give us an estimate on when you'll be back? I'm getting tired of pub games.

[GreenSerpent]

I'll be back on Saturday afternoon, but with unpacking and generally being tired out from a long drive I might not be up for a game till Sunday.

It'll be nice to get back to reliable internet. And not needing to go 50+ miles to a supermarket.

[Hellwyrm]

The best counter to Templar Assassin is clearly Rubick that builds a Radiance. That was a fun game. We got sufficiently farmed that everyone short of the Dark Seer was building carry.

^^ Man this guy.
My favourite build has to be Spectre refresher rush though.
Also I haven't really run into any leaving problems in the mid-high skill bracket. Only leavers in about 1/10 or 1/15 games, including the ones I leave. Believe me, if you abandon regularly enough, you get punished hard, my friend racked up about 6 months of low priority because he raged too hard.
Feel free to hit me up on steam, Saruswag the Schlack, though I am Australian so any cross continent games are unlikely to end well connection wise.

Counterpicking, in my opinion, is largely about picking heroes that will nullify the use of other heroes skills. For example, Dragon Knight against Weaver. DKs massive stun will help stop weavers positional abilities with Shukuchi, and hopefully allow you to chain stun weaver to death before he can Time Lapse. Also Dragon Knights high armour counters weavers armour reducing Swarm ability and the armor reducing strategy that weaver can build for.

Another example is a split-push hero like Natures Prophet or Tinker against heros such as Clockwerk or Spirit Breaker. Both Clockwerk and Spirit Breaker have long range distance closing abilities in Hookshot and Charge respectively that can easily get in close with split push heros (such as NP and Tinker) and kill them with ease.

[Dumbledore lives]

^^ Man this guy.
My favourite build has to be Spectre refresher rush though.
Also I haven't really run into any leaving problems in the mid-high skill bracket. Only leavers in about 1/10 or 1/15 games, including the ones I leave. Believe me, if you abandon regularly enough, you get punished hard, my friend racked up about 6 months of low priority because he raged too hard.
Feel free to hit me up on steam, Saruswag the Schlack, though I am Australian so any cross continent games are unlikely to end well connection wise.

Counterpicking, in my opinion, is largely about picking heroes that will nullify the use of other heroes skills. For example, Dragon Knight against Weaver. DKs massive stun will help stop weavers positional abilities with Shukuchi, and hopefully allow you to chain stun weaver to death before he can Time Lapse. Also Dragon Knights high armour counters weavers armour reducing Swarm ability and the armor reducing strategy that weaver can build for.

Another example is a split-push hero like Natures Prophet or Tinker against heros such as Clockwerk or Spirit Breaker. Both Clockwerk and Spirit Breaker have long range distance closing abilities in Hookshot and Charge respectively that can easily get in close with split push heros (such as NP and Tinker) and kill them with ease.

Well getting to Tinker isn't exactly easy, what with the teleporting and such. Good Tinkers are scary things.

[Fan]

Well getting to Tinker isn't exactly easy, what with the teleporting and such. Good Tinkers are scary things.

Spectre + Io short lane, Nature Jungle, Tinker Solo Mid, either Broodmother or Dark Seer long lane solo.

The ultimate in tower pushing and global manueverability.

[GreenSerpent]

Spectre + Io short lane, Nature Jungle, Tinker Solo Mid, either Broodmother or Dark Seer long lane solo.

The ultimate in tower pushing and global manueverability.

Alternatively, Shadow Shaman mid and Warlock short lane. Both build Ags and Refresher.

Goodbye towers.

[Teln]

Alternatively, Shadow Shaman mid and Warlock short lane. Both build Ags and Refresher.

Goodbye towers.

Death Prophet on mid, rush a Bloodstone, max Witchcraft, then nab Refresher. Murder towers, crush teamfights.

[Hellwyrm]

My favorite pub trawling strategy is completely global.
Spectre, Natures Prophet, Zeus, Silencer and Ancient Apparition.
4 Refreshers, 4 Aghanims.
So many random kills its hilarious. The one button hero team.

[GreenSerpent]

By the way, the next two heroes to come out are going to be Legion Commander and Goblin Techies, in that order. I'm mostly sure (90%ish) about this.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Unreleased_Content

[Math_Mage]

As a note, I'm trying to get a team of Mid-High level players together.

The type of people I'm looking for are people who are at least capable of winning games against Unfair bots, and understand what farm priorities and lane equilibrium are.

Add: The Great and Tasty Vincent on steam, we already have two members and are looking to fill our last 3 slots on the team.

Please and thank you. <3

Also Riki is countered by supports grabbing sentries and popping them in lane around the 5 or 6 minute mark, he's incredibly easy to counter and with the new dust buff (adds a 15% move speed penalty on people who are invisible when it hits.) invis heroes are going to see a lot less play in the current meta.

If you had to go with a support to counter riki though, I'd say grab Silencer, Riki being silenced reveals him and if you just pop last word on him when he jumps he isn't going anywhere. And given his lack of short cool down spells it's likely that he'll get hit with the disarm to boot.

Wandering in here as a League player, it's amusing to see that DotA bots are sufficiently advanced to judge levels of skill, because League's bots are...not.

[Fan]

Wandering in here as a League player, it's amusing to see that DotA bots are sufficiently advanced to judge levels of skill, because League's bots are...not.

To be 100% honest this is just to get the bar set at a level that's "Stumble over" rather than non existant.

The main thing in team composition is 100% communication and understanding people's movements and capabilities. We want people who have a base level of talent that's already there to work with just so we don't have to build them from the ground up.

While the DOTA bots certainly are "capable" at some base level, there's a lot of logic that just "Does not compute" with them, you can go invisible over and over again all day and they all but refuse to buy sentries, dust, or gem. They place wards, but only sparingly, their laning is aggressive but ultimately they always end up either over extending or sitting there twiddling their thumbs.

Though I will grant them the machine accuracy of last hitting, though that's more due to the computer always being able to check the numbers in a 100% math oriented game.

[Teln]

That and literally inhuman reaction times.

[Teln]

So, anybody watching the Third International? Rattlesnake just took the wildcard slot, beating Quantum 3 games to 1.

Apologies for the double post.

[Dumbledore lives]

So, anybody watching the Third International? Rattlesnake just took the wildcard slot, beating Quantum 3 games to 1.

Apologies for the double post.

Yeah, their performances in the first and fourth games were particularly impressive. Especially the Keeper in that game, pretty much all of his recalls were on time and helped. That and Storm Spirit's Zip zap zoopidy bop was good.

[Teln]

Rotten showing by Na'vi, lucky for them it's just the prelims.

[TubaMortim]

Na'Vi seems to have a tendency of losing games before starting a winning streak, so I'm not too worried.

If you want to efficiently watch ti3:
http://multitwitch.tv/beyondthesummi.../sheevergaming

[9mm]

just noticed the prelims are best of 2... and left wondering how in the balls ties are split with the betting.

[TubaMortim]

They're basically collecting points from the prelim games, which is why a tiebreaker game isn't needed.
On the bet sites it would seem that bets are just canceled in case of a tie.

[GreenSerpent]

Guild is up. If you wish to join, please contact me on my Steam account "Totally Not from GITP" (minus "s).

[Fan]

Guild is up. If you wish to join, please contact me on my Steam account "Totally Not from GITP" (minus "s).

Added, currently under the name Superman.

[Douglas]

By the way, the next two heroes to come out are going to be Legion Commander and Goblin Techies, in that order. I'm mostly sure (90%ish) about this.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Unreleased_Content

Ah, the much-maligned Techies. I wonder how much rage his re-introduction to the (new) game will inspire. He probably has the single greatest impact on the nature of the game of any hero.

[GreenSerpent]

Ah, the much-maligned Techies. I wonder how much rage his re-introduction to the (new) game will inspire. He probably has the single greatest impact on the nature of the game of any hero.

Through feeding? *wink*

[Fan]

Through feeding? *wink*

Suicide Attack! gives him exp and the kill. You on the other hand, do not get exp when he kills you with it.

Yeah...

[Nadevoc]

I remember Techies. They were a ton of fun, and Suicide could get first blood so easily. It got really tough to do much against good players, though.

[Tono]

I used to love techies so much. Hes such a huge pain for any team that can't be bothered with map awareness. Does Aghs still give him awesome range with his ult? Used to love that in team fights. Stun>Run, long range almost instant ults. And with that buff that gave him mine exp a while ago it became sooo much easier.

[Teln]

Dota2pedia says that Aghanim's gives Techies 700 range with his ult.