Pathfinder Grab Bag Competition Chat Thread II: New Thread smell included!

[Tanuki Tales]

That looks awesome, but it still doesn't give a mechanic for determining "behind"

Well, I think that's as close as you'll get with something like this without being far too wordy. Pathfinder doesn't have rules for facing, that's 4th edition's hat.

[SamBurke]

Third Law (Because this is the fourth time we've done it, doggone!)
Missing a Common Sense
Mythic Journey
Saying Goodbye

EDIT: Apologies for not saying this in the post, but the Handyman is one of the largest (heh heh) enemies in Bioshock:Infinite, which is what the False Prophet was based on. Since it was the most memorable enemy (like the Big Daddies in B:1 and B:2), I figured it'd be a good fit.

[DawnbringerSO]

Third law
Hey, I know that
Seasons past
Missing a common sense

Damnit man. My internet is not working so I have to do this with my phone

[Tanuki Tales]

{table=head]Proposed Name|Theme|Votes
We Built This City (On Rock and Roll)|Rock songs|7
The Mythic Journey|Mythic characters and High Fantasy|6
Missing a Common Sense|Entries lack one of the five senses|8
Saying Goodbye|Entries based upon what immediately precedes death|6
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream|Dreams, Nightmares, etc.|5
Seasons Past|Holidays|3
Third Law|Magitech and technology in general|6
Hey, I know that _____!|Pop culture themed entries|2
[/table]


Votes Tallied to here.


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{table=head]Proposed Name|Theme|Votes
We Built This City (On Rock and Roll)|Rock songs|0
The Mythic Journey|Mythic characters and High Fantasy|0
Missing a Common Sense|Entries lack one of the five senses|0
Third Law|Magitech and technology in general|0
[/table]



So we're down to four! Per usual, you get two votes and voting will remain open until 11:59 pm EST on the 20th.

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Sorry for not getting this up a few days ago, I've been swamped with homework and other junk.

Some reminders:

• If you haven't voted yet for last month's winners, please do so.
• There is less than two weeks in this month's competition and we so far only have two complete entries.

Also, since we're approaching the end of this year and the second anniversary of this contest is only four months away, I wanted to open the floor for any feedback and suggestions concerning the contest.

[gr8artist]

Mythic Journey
Missing a Common Sense

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Missing a common sense
We built this City

[malonkey1]

We Built This City
Third Law

[Razanir]

Mythic Journey
Missing a Common Sense

[SassyQuatch]

We Built this City
Missing a Common Sense

[SamBurke]

Third Law
Missing a Sense.

[Ilorin Lorati]

Third Law
We Built this City

[3WhiteFox3]

Third Law
Mythic Journey

[Ilorin Lorati]

Geez, at this rate everyone in the forums may have voted by midnight. P:

[DawnbringerSO]

Third Law
Missing a common sense

[Milo v3]

Third Law
Mythic Journey

[Tanuki Tales]

{table=head]Proposed Name|Theme|Votes
We Built This City (On Rock and Roll)|Rock songs|4
The Mythic Journey|Mythic characters and High Fantasy|4
Missing a Common Sense|Entries lack one of the five senses|6
Third Law|Magitech and technology in general|6
[/table]

Tallied to here.

[caledscratcher]

We Built This City
Abstain

[DawnbringerSO]

We Built This City
Abstain

You're not allowed to abstain.

[Tanuki Tales]

You're not allowed to abstain.

I've never had any such rule to my recollection for this thread.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Actually, let me search through the first page....aha! One conversation taught us a few things in the early voting period:

I'm giving all three of my votes to Mutagenic Madness.

Well, you can't do that for 1.

Let us know we couldn't vote for one thing multiple times in the same round. Then later....

You sir are a blessing and a saint. Sorry to cause such a ruckus, and I'll cast only one vote for Mutagenic Madness. I think that brings it to the final voting round?

And what are your other two votes? It can matter.

I hope Deviston comes back soon. Otherwise I might just have to roll to determine his other two votes.

Showed me that since every vote matters, each voting submission needs to be fully complete, because abstaining messes with the count. This has happened a few times, but this example is the one I found the fastest.

[DawnbringerSO]

Yeah otherwise I would just put my vote in third law all the time and not anything else

[Tanuki Tales]

Well, hitting quote was a waste of my time, since nothing I wanted to reply to was actually saved in the quoting process.

The first quoted instance is not a stance against abstaining, it's just a disallowment of multiple votes being cast for one single.

I need the context for the contest that those other two quotes come from. If it was a case where we were having a close deadlock on voting, then those two votes could have, in fact, mattered and that it would have been necessary to roll for them.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Well, hitting quote was a waste of my time, since nothing I wanted to reply to was actually saved in the quoting process.

The first quoted instance is not a stance against abstaining, it's just a disallowment of multiple votes being cast for one single.

I need the context for the contest that those other two quotes come from. If it was a case where we were having a close deadlock on voting, then those two votes could have, in fact, mattered and that it would have been necessary to roll for them.

It was a deadlock, yes. But I've been under that impression since then, and I think there once was another occurance, but who knows. It's your call, so if we are allowed to abstain, good to know. I think it kind of deconstucts the voting process, myself.

[Tanuki Tales]

It was a deadlock, yes. But I've been under that impression since then, and I think there once was another occurance, but who knows. It's your call, so if we are allowed to abstain, good to know. I think it kind of deconstucts the voting process, myself.

I'll leave this up to you all. I'm of the mind that abstaining is fine, but if we need to break a tie and there are abstains, they have to be "called in".

[Ilorin Lorati]

I'll leave this up to you all. I'm of the mind that abstaining is fine, but if we need to break a tie and there are abstains, they have to be "called in".

I think that the ability to abstain could massively throw off the balance of the voting mechanisms we use; worst case scenario, everyone starts voting for their single favorite with the understanding that if they voted for the whole number they were "supposed to," that they could in fact end up knocking their choice off the top X.

If that's acceptable, I'm fine with it.

[gr8artist]

I agree that partial votes are a little weird. Personally, I'd lean toward the rule that you have to use all your votes.

We did have a situation where players were allowed to "dump" votes. Lets say they wanted option A.
A had 5, B had 5, C had 4, D had 4
E had 1, F had 2, G had 2, H had 1
They'd cast one of their 4 for A, and put the other 3 in E, F, or G.
That's the most relevant thing I can remember.

On a side note, have we considered making it a rule that you can't vote for yourself in a competition? A couple of us don't like to self-vote, but it's weird if there's not a standard.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

I agree that partial votes are a little weird. Personally, I'd lean toward the rule that you have to use all your votes.

We did have a situation where players were allowed to "dump" votes. Lets say they wanted option A.
A had 5, B had 5, C had 4, D had 4
E had 1, F had 2, G had 2, H had 1
They'd cast one of their 4 for A, and put the other 3 in E, F, or G.
That's the most relevant thing I can remember.

On a side note, have we considered making it a rule that you can't vote for yourself in a competition? A couple of us don't like to self-vote, but it's weird if there's not a standard.

You mean voting for your own submission in a particular month? Or voting for your own entry for next months topic?

[DawnbringerSO]

I'll leave this up to you all. I'm of the mind that abstaining is fine, but if we need to break a tie and there are abstains, they have to be "called in".

I'm not. It throws out the entire point of voting in the first place.

If you're going to allow abstaining, then from now on all my votes will be third law and monster combo (with third law taking preference) and the rest ab-****ing-stain.

Oh and I change my previous vote to third law and abstain.


How does that strike you for a ridiculous rule?

[Tanuki Tales]

I'm not. It throws out the entire point of voting in the first place.

If you're going to allow abstaining, then from now on all my votes will be third law and monster combo (with third law taking preference) and the rest ab-****ing-stain.

Oh and I change my previous vote to third law and abstain.


How does that strike you for a ridiculous rule?

You strike me as acting entirely outside the realm of acceptable behavior here Dawn. And, to be honest, I've never been much of a fan of your choice in tone in the past. You always strike me as being unnecessarily aggressive and confrontational in several situations and that you bring a negativity to the thread(s) that was otherwise not present.

Edit:

@gr8artist: It was brought up once or twice before, but we never got more then one or two people having an issue with it, so it's been tabled and forgotten both times.

Edit Edit:


Aaaanyways, here's the final round for the theme:

{table=head]Proposed Name|Theme|Votes
Missing a Common Sense|Entries lack one of the five senses|0
Third Law|Magitech and technology in general|0
[/table]

You guys know the drill. And here's to Third Law potentially finally winning!

[malonkey1]

Third Law.