Bleach IX: This isn't even my final thread!

[Socratov]

Hello and welcome to the ninth installment of a discussion on Tite Kubo's work titled Bleach. Bleach is a Shounen manga revolving around Ichigo Kurosaki (or Kurosaki Ichigo, whichever you prefer). With his various powers he (frequently) saves the world with his vast array of powers.

the previous threads can be found here:
Bleach VIII: ...All along...
Bleach VII: "Ichigo, you're a [scrubbed]."

Bleach VI: We Want Our Baby Bach Ribs (Aizen pull)
Bleach V: Well that was a waste of time (Fullbring? What's that?)
Bleach IV: Swords, Stains & Donuts (Problem, Ichigo?)
Since When Were You Under The Impression There Wasn't a Bleach III?
Bleach II: I can't believe its not Butterflaizen!
the first thread still eludes me, sadlyBleach: (Formerly Gin Speculation, now general) (Spoilers) Found thanks to Max(tm)

[LaZodiac]

Hooray new thread.

On the subject we had previously, the problem with that idea is that it tries to sympathize Aizen, which is wrong and stupid.

[Rater202]

Hooray new thread.

On the subject we had previously, the problem with that idea is that it tries to sympathize Aizen, which is wrong and stupid.

Okay, I'm lost.

What were we talking about?

[Morph Bark]

Clicking around on previous threads:

I'm still waiting for someone to explain the 'Hollow = a kid who picked up a knife' analogy from the last thread.

The point (I think) was that hollows aren't bad guys. Someone compared them to horrible monsters, but the fact is they have no control over their actions. Like a kid who picks up a knife and accidentally stabs someone.It would be ridiculous to destroy their soul in that case (although as Anteros points out, it's kind of vague whether souls are actually destroyed).

So since thread II we've been having an analogy that Hollows are like kids with knives, and now we've got Yachiru wielding her zanpakuto, and it turns out her shikai has a Hollow look-alike behind it.

[LaZodiac]

Okay, I'm lost.

What were we talking about?

The Aizen stuff from the last thread. You even responded to it yourself (in the wrong thread )

[Rater202]

The Aizen stuff from the last thread. You even responded to it yourself (in the wrong thread )

you mean Mato being a Jerkface and pushing flawed logic to contradict a solid theory?

you know, i could have sworn that I had him on my ignore list.

Yeah, Aizen ain't sympathetic. Look at him during his trial, or when Yhwach offered him a position in the VR.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a back up plan just in case he lost control of the Perfect Hogyoku.

[Thrawn183]

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a back up plan just in case he lost control of the Perfect Hogyoku.

Well, we still haven't seen his bankai, right?

[Rater202]

Well, we still haven't seen his bankai, right?

I don't know if he even sill has his Zanpakuto.

on one hand, it kinda dissolved when the Hogyoku abandoned him, on the other he did do that small time illusion on Yhwach, and we do have that whole "The Sword isn't the Zanpakuto, it's just a tool to use it's power" thing from when Ichigo got his reforged.

[Starwulf]

posting to mark new thread.

[LaZodiac]

posting to mark new thread.

You don't need to post to subscribed to threads. You also shouldn't just post to have posted in a thread. Discuss things!

For instance, what's everyone's predictions for next chapter?

[Hadrian_Emrys]

Captain Bloodknight stomps the yard all over Peter Pan's face due to the peerless might of the rule of cool. If it doesn't simply just happen next comic though, it will be only to reveal the gimmick to the twerp's power.

[Max™]

the first thread still eludes me, sadly

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147423

There ya go.

Google'D "site:giantitp.com bleach" and put the custom date range from 1/1/2010 to 8/4/2010 (date of the second thread), figured I'd share that since the gitp forum search has been dead for longer than Old Man Genocide huh?

[Macros]

For instance, what's everyone's predictions for next chapter?

Well, I fully expect a repeat of the classic formula. Zaraki trashes his opponent, said opponent reveals his power and gain the upper hand, Kenpachi gets serious and trashes his opponent again, who then reveals that AH-AH! he had an other power-up under his sleeve, and starts beating up Chuck Norris, who then gets fed up with all this nonsense, release his newly learned Shikai (Bankai?) and one-shot the guy.

God I hope I'm wrong. If anything, Zaraki is perhaps the only one who has a chance to step out of the rails.

[Socratov]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147423

There ya go.

Google'D "site:giantitp.com bleach" and put the custom date range from 1/1/2010 to 8/4/2010 (date of the second thread), figured I'd share that since the gitp forum search has been dead for longer than Old Man Genocide huh?

Thanks, man I did use a similar tactic, but I didn't find it, probably due to not including the dates

[HandofShadows]

I'm hopiong Zaraki just kills him and then walks over and drops Unohana telling Isane she has work to do.

[Morph Bark]

I'm hopiong Zaraki just kills him and then walks over and drops Unohana telling Isane she has work to do.

While that could be appropriate, it would take a bit away from their fight and sacrifice on part of both her and Zaraki.

I'd find it a great thing to do if it weren't for the fact that up until this arc not a single named shinigami was killed, except during a backstory flashback.

[danzibr]

You don't need to post to subscribed to threads. You also shouldn't just post to have posted in a thread. Discuss things!

For instance, what's everyone's predictions for next chapter?

Well, I fully expect a repeat of the classic formula. Zaraki trashes his opponent, said opponent reveals his power and gain the upper hand, Kenpachi gets serious and trashes his opponent again, who then reveals that AH-AH! he had an other power-up under his sleeve, and starts beating up Chuck Norris, who then gets fed up with all this nonsense, release his newly learned Shikai (Bankai?) and one-shot the guy.

God I hope I'm wrong. If anything, Zaraki is perhaps the only one who has a chance to step out of the rails.

I'm kind of thinking Zaraki's going to curb stomp him from the get-go.

[MammonAzrael]

I'll be a little surprised if Kenpachi wins straight out the gate, for several reasons:

1. We just had a Sternritter disposed of in short order with V, to do the same with I would feel odd narratively, IMO.
2. Of all the various powers that could be brought to bear against Kenpachi, I's power, whatever it may actually be, seems most likely to put up some level of resistance, given how it won't challenge Kenpachi's strength directly.
3. Kenpachi's Shikai should be given an opportunity to shine, given how hotly anticipated it has been. A short fight of less than a chapter would not do it justice.
4. Next chapter will probably just be Kenpachi catching up with Yachiru, before turning to threaten I at the close of the chapter.

[Hadrian_Emrys]

Ken's Bankai: Nothing can happen that Ken doesn't understand.

Ritter I: *pees self* before *dead*

[Macros]

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. A power using the other guy imagination isn't quite optimal against Zaraki.

[Anteros]

Clicking around on previous threads:




So since thread II we've been having an analogy that Hollows are like kids with knives, and now we've got Yachiru wielding her zanpakuto, and it turns out her shikai has a Hollow look-alike behind it.

Seeing my name in that thread threw me for a loop. I had to go find the original posts so I could remember the argument I was making at the time.

[LaZodiac]

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Kenpachi vs Gremmy!

So little happened this chapter oh my god. But it was really good. Gremmy brags about imagining he's the strongest, but then gets interrupted mid speech about how he can just imagine he's stronger then steel to avoid being cut, by almost getting his arm sliced off.

And Kenpachi's reason for not being able to be defeated? Cause he's Kenpachi.

[HandofShadows]

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Hmm. This kid does not use someone elses imagination. His power is based on what he personally can imagine. And as this chapter showed Kenpachi's strength is something he is unable to imagine. Yeah, I think this is going to be more towards a curbstomp. Kennie's not happy about who he got the name and I actually feel a bit sorry for him.

[Hadrian_Emrys]

Captain Bloodknight stomps the yard all over Peter Pan's face due to the peerless might of the rule of cool. If it doesn't simply just happen next comic though, it will be only to reveal the gimmick to the twerp's power.

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Who called it? This guy. *thumbs up and back*

[danzibr]

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I wonder if we'll even see his shikai this fight... probably doesn't need it.

[ben-zayb]

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For a guy whose power is basically at will Wish/Reality Revision, that's some pretty poor showing. Aizen will chairpalm if he ever meets this joke.

On a positive note, Kenpachi shows how BAMF he turned out to be. And he isn't even using his shikai. Can someone say fodder treatment?

[Socratov]

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For a guy whose power is basically at will Wish/Reality Revision, that's some pretty poor showing. Aizen will chairpalm if he ever meets this joke.

On a positive note, Kenpachi shows how BAMF he turned out to be. And he isn't even using his shikai. Can someone say fodder treatment?

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Well, I think it's obvious by now that Kubo is settin gup for a triple worf: first he lets the sternritter completely own the Gotei captains (1st worf), then he let's the gotei captains come back with a vengeance owning the Sternritter (2nd worf) and then he will let the captains perish against Ywach (3rd worf) before Ichigo goes to town. At which point we can all yell C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER! in a loud and booming voice.

Still quite entertaining though...

[Rater202]

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On a positive note, Kenpachi shows how BAMF he turned out to be. And he isn't even using his shikai. Can someone say fodder treatment?

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I could of sworn that his was in constant Shikai, but he couldn't use it's powers becuase he didn't know the name.

His was compared to Zangetsu early one, and Zangetsu being a constant release type was brought up.

Wait, with the reforging, wouuld Zangetsu still be a constant release type-it was said that the reason he couldn't be sealed was becuase Ichigo couldn't cntroll his power yet, but 1. more or less everything else we've been told about Ichigo's power before now has been wrong, and 2, the old man was screwing with Ichigo's power for a long time, so whose to say he wasn't messing with his control too.

Back onto the topic of the Chapter, If this Guy is the V, "Visionary", then either the last guy was a complete figment of his imagination, or Sternritter sharing a letter is not uncommon

[Morph Bark]

I think I can honestly say this was the least eventful chapter I've ever read.

[ben-zayb]

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I could of sworn that his was in constant Shikai, but he couldn't use it's powers becuase he didn't know the name.

His was compared to Zangetsu early one, and Zangetsu being a constant release type was brought up.

Wait, with the reforging, wouuld Zangetsu still be a constant release type-it was said that the reason he couldn't be sealed was becuase Ichigo couldn't cntroll his power yet, but 1. more or less everything else we've been told about Ichigo's power before now has been wrong, and 2, the old man was screwing with Ichigo's power for a long time, so whose to say he wasn't messing with his control too.

Back onto the topic of the Chapter, If this Guy is the V, "Visionary", then either the last guy was a complete figment of his imagination, or Sternritter sharing a letter is not uncommon

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I think it's the first one, although with all the honorific stuff I get the feeling that it's based on a previous SR V (who knows how many got that letter before Gremmy, anyway).