Question on Druid Summons

[albeaver89]

Can a Druid spontaneously summon a celestial or a fiendish animal?

[Diarmuid]

Not without something beyond the normal ability of a druid to spontaeously convert their spells to Summon Nature's Ally XYZ spells or the ability to access spells from other lists.

Is this purely theoretical, or are you looking to find a way to do this. If the latter, what sources and level are we talking about?

[Yanisa]

Nope, it works like Nature's Ally, which doesn't allow planar options.

Edit: Swordsaged.

[Red Fel]

While the Summon Monster line may permit you to summon Celestial/Fiendish creatures, Druids have Summon Nature's Ally, which doesn't. (It should be noted that Druids can summon creatures like Oreads, which kick all kinds of butt, but that's neither here nor there.)

But consider the Moonspeaker PrC. At level 12, it grants the ability Lamannia Calling; you gain the Planar Ally line of spells. These spells allow you to summon, among others, celestial or fiendish animals, as well as a variety of other extraplanar beings.

[eggynack]

I'm going to go with no. You can spontaneously cast SNA, which is a list that includes no fiendish or celestial creatures, and you can normally cast SM, if you take a level of contemplative or something, but I can't think of a way to combine those two things without losing druid progression.

Actually, wait, if you dip into contemplative for the summoner domain or something, and dip a level of hathran for the ability to spontaneously cast any spell you know as long as you're in the boundaries of Rashemen, and optionally combine that with an acorn of far travel such that you're always effectively within the boundaries of Rashemen, then yes, a druid can spontaneously summon fiendish and celestial animals. You are also likely to spontaneously summon copies of the DMG, angled at your forehead, but it's nice to have a method.

[TrueJordan]

Technically, kind of.
Take this feat: http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-ma...ogitation--55/
And know the Conjure Ice Beast (and I think the sandform version should also work) line. Boom ting.

[eggynack]

Technically, kind of.
Take this feat: http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-ma...ogitation--55/
And know the Conjure Ice Beast (and I think the sandform version should also work) line. Boom ting.

You need to prepare arcane spells for that. By that point of investment, it's likely significantly easier to pull this off.

[albeaver89]

Not without something beyond the normal ability of a druid to spontaeously convert their spells to Summon Nature's Ally XYZ spells or the ability to access spells from other lists.

Is this purely theoretical, or are you looking to find a way to do this. If the latter, what sources and level are we talking about?

Uhh The only one that is specifically banned is Exotic Fantasy. It can't be too cheesy though. Right now level 2. The campaign will go through level 20. I don't really want to lose out on a lot of Druid levels, for obvious reasons.

[Fouredged Sword]

Planer touchstone can get you the summoning domain, then a PRC can get you turn undead, then the Domain Spontaneity feat will let you spend a turn attempt to spontaneously cast SM for a extraplaner creature.

[albeaver89]

It seems you can not have lvl 20 druid and spontaneously summon a celestial/fiendish creature...So it seems I must acquire the spell Summon Monster.

[sleepyphoenixx]

Magical Training (PGtF), Alternative Source Spell (Dr325), Robe of Mysterious Conjuration (MIC, 10000gp).
For the cost of 2 feats and 10000gp you can sacrifice a spell slot to use Summon Monster (of the slots level) 3/day.
It specifies arcane spells iirc, thus the feats.