Dethy Tournament--Heat Three in progress!--Still Recruiting!

[Zjoot]

Welcome to the Playground's first (as far as I'm aware) Mafia tourney!

For this tournament we're going to play Dethy, because of it's small player size and quick playtime.

If you don't know what Dethy is, I've copied the rules directly from a previous game of it, because typing things out yourself is overrated!

Rules:

• The stuff at WW Central
• All Cops begin the game with a 'scoop' of a random other player, telling the cop what they'd scry the other player as. The Mafia learns what roles have scooped him, as if he had used his watch his back ability.
• The game begins in Day
• Day ends when a majority of living players vote to lynch another living player--if you put the killing blow onto somebody and end the day, please point it out in your post (as per Sapo's suggestion)-- or after 72 hours, when the lynch will be decided randomly. Not lynching is not an option. You can choose to have your vote not count for the purpose of ending day for the first 48 hours by specifying that it is a deadline vote. After 48 hours, deadline votes will be counted as normal votes.
• Night ends when all actions are in, with a 48 hour deadline. No-killing is not an option, if necessary the kill will be decided randomly.
• Roles are not revealed upon death
• No PMs

Roles:
All roles have a scry action at night. The Mafia's goal is to eliminate the Cops, and the Cops' goal is to lynch the Mafia. Cops are not told which Cop they are, only that they are a Cop.

• Mafia: He must nightkill a player every night. He may:
  
  • Scry: Determine the exact role of target player OR
  • Watch his back: Find out what roles (not players) scried him that night (if any).
• Sane Cop: He scies people accurately
• Insane Cop: He scries people as Innocent when Guilty and as Guilty when Innocent
• Naive Cop: He scries everybody as Innocent
• Paranoid Cop: He scries everybody as Guilty

If any of this is unclear, please just ask.

Now that you've read the rules, I'm looking for 25 players for the tournament. The tourney will run in five heats of five (determined by sign-up order) If the mafia wins, that player advances to the finals. If the cops win, the players have to vote on who among the cops was the MVP of the game, and this player will continue to the finals. Vote honestly for the player you think truly contributed most to the win. If this is you, then vote for yourself, but do not do so simply because you want to play in the finals. If all goes well there may be more tournaments in the future with a chance for you to play in those.

**An important note before you sign up: This is intended to be a more competitive game than the normal games here. A high level of commitment is expected. Please do not join if you do not think you can actively affect the game--this doesn't mean you have to be some kind of werewolf savant, just that you will participate throughout**

And of course the most important thing is that you enjoy yourself and have a good time!

With that said, let the sign ups begin!

Spoiler: Player List

Show

Heat one
1. Duck999--Paranoid Cop
2. Disc Lorde--Insane Cop
3. DukeGod--Sane Cop
4. Aventine--Mafia
5. Tom the Mime--Naive Cop--Winner!
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Heat two
6. Saposhiente--Naive Cop--Winner!
7. Lex Kat--Sane Cop
8. Aric Kale--Paranoid Cop
9. Random Person--Mafia
10. Doctor Whooves (Askthepizzaguy)--Insane Cop
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Heat three
11. TBFProgrammer
12.Count Dingdong
13. Studoku
14. Penguinator
15. reaverb
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16. Askthepizzaguy
17. The Fiery Tower
18. Tanar Aerdoth
19. Chessgeek
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25.

[Disc Lorde]

Sounds interesting. I have a few questions/comments.

Firstly, it seems off to me that dead cops are out of the running for advancing to the finals. Normally the goal in Mafia is to get your team to win, not to look out primarily for yourself. Also, this rule might result in the most skilled players not advancing to the finals, because they would prove their skill and then get killed night one.

Secondly, it seems that whether the mafia player wins a lot would depend a lot on the luck of the start-of-game scoops.

Finally, is roleplaying allowed?

[Zjoot]

To answer in reverse order, of course roleplaying is always allowed...I wan't planning on doing narrations to be honest, but if you guys come up with characters I'll do a few sentences for death narrations.

Secondly, yes, some chance might enter into it, but really I don't see it as a significant enough difference. The real trick of the game is not in actually using scry results but in figurin out who is lying about their scry results.

Thirdly, yes, very good point. I think that was my intention actually, but I wrote this at around midnight so there may be some mental lapses. I'll fix the rules so that the dead cops are also in the running.

[Duck999]

I'd like to play-IN.
Are there any QTs?

[Sabeki]

ooh, we're having a tourney! I better go polish my shield
IN.

[Tris]

In! I like this set up.

[Disc Lorde]

Alrighty then, sounds fun. In.

Also, is Helgraf's scry interference in effect?

[Tom the Mime]

I'll play. I can afford a high level of commitment for my heat at least.

I'd like to play-IN.
Are there any QTs?

If you're asking for between players then no because the OP state no PMs. If you're asking regarding narrator-to-player QTs, there really isn't any point as a heat can only last three phases per heat. You only get 2 PMs from the narrator, one with your role and a random scry and one with your night 1 scry. For town it's all about openness, trying to determine what role distributions are actually possible with the given scries (and hence narrow down the hunt and decide the best N1 scries for narrowing it down further) or catch the mafia out if they claim a scry which can't be valid given the other information. For the mafia, it's all about subtle misdirection, sensible targeting and hope.

[Zjoot]

Tom the Mime is exactly right.

Alrighty then, sounds fun. In.

Also, is Helgraf's scry interference in effect?

And no on the scry interference, since there are only four possible scry targets on the first night and four people scrying, that would really mess things up.

Looks like we have enough for the first heat at least.

[Lex-Kat]

InInInIn!! Did I make the cut-off?

[Penguinator]

In! I need to redeem myself from last time.

[Saposhiente]

I'm back!
In other news, I propose that it become proper etiquette to announce in some manner when your vote is enough to end the day, i.e. when you "drop the hammer" on the player you're voting for. Would have saved a bunch of waiting around time last game.

[Aventine]

I will join this

[Saposhiente]

Secondly, it seems that whether the mafia player wins a lot would depend a lot on the luck of the start-of-game scoops.

Actually, this matters less than you think. The rule was added because even with random first scry, Town (if playing correctly) has a significantly higher chance of winning. (Sussing out the mafia is usually impossible regardless of scry targets; instead, you try to confirm people as innocent). Plus, the cops would normally have no information to base their choice upon; this just prevents scry coordination in some way that might be discovered to be better.

[Aric Kale]

Let's do this thing. I'm IN and ready to win.

[DoctorWhooves]

In.

Apparently I need ten characters to post. Here they are.

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I'm back!
In other news, I propose that it become proper etiquette to announce in some manner when your vote is enough to end the day, i.e. when you "drop the hammer" on the player you're voting for. Would have saved a bunch of waiting around time last game.

I concur.

A simple "Vote" and "Stop" in the same post seems reasonable.

Ooh that's neat. Double posting merges into one post.

[Zjoot]

Awesome, more people! And I was just about to post in the Central thread begging for signups too.

Actually, I may still do that anyways. If we can get 15 players, I'd like to go ahead and begin the first heat next week, with the hope that the remaining ten players filter in while the first three heats are in progress.

Also, I will edit the rules to reflect Sapo's suggestion. Thanks Sapo! It's good to have you. Still working on an analyzer program?

[Saposhiente]

Still working on an analyzer program?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not "in", but, consider me as a potential recruit if you really cannot scrape together enough folks after the first heats.

I'll observe how things go and consider inning after that. Sound fair?

[Zjoot]

Sure, sounds fine to me. It may be a non-issue anyways. Penguinator has politely requested to be removed from the tournament which leaves us a an even ten players. I really do not think waiting will much improve the situation, as it really was a bit optimistic of me to expect we'd have twenty five whole players committed to a competitive style game. (Frankly after seeing the way this forum has treated those players in recent games I'm amazed we got ten that weren't all chased off, but that's another matter entirely that we shouldn't discuss here (I just needed to make some comment about it before it keeps stewing))

Aaaanyways I'd like to go ahead and begin the game with your permission. We'll do the first two heats, and if five more players show up, we'll do the third, but we have ten players now, so we might as well begin. If we only end up doing these two, we can talk about still doing some sort of final round. If we decide to go for that, cool. If not, well that's two awesome games of Dethy, so win-win.

Alright, so let me know. If I don't hear any objections before, let's say Wednesday, I'll randomize the matchups and send out roles.

[DukeGod]

Cool. Certainly different from our usual WW game
I'll join

[Fortuna]

I don't think I'll be any good at this...

But is there any better way to learn than trying? In.

[Zjoot]

I know I said I'd start the game on Wednesday, but it turns out I am much busier with the show I am doing than I would like to be. It only leaves me a couple of hours a day for anything else. However, I should be able to run te first heat next week, with the possibility of delays on narration. I'll send roles tomorrow.

[Studoku]

Sign me up.

[Zjoot]

Yay, another signup!

The first heat (which has been randomly determined) will consist of Aventine, DukeGod, Duck999, Sabeki, and Tom the Mime
Roles and scoops are being sent now.
Day 1 will begin when everyone posts to confirm that they have received their roles and are ready to play.

[DukeGod]

Role received. Ready to play

[Tom the Mime]

Role received and reporting for duty.

[Duck999]

Role recieved.
Time to play some game.

[Aventine]

Received and ready

[Zjoot]

Since Sabeki hasn't responded, I rerolled his role and am giving it to Disc Lorde. As soon as Disc Lorde responds, we can begin.