Magic the Gathering XIX: Heroic- Bump this thread.

[Istari]

Holy cow, has anyone seen Iroas, God of Victory? It was the Reddit spoiler card.

2WR

Devotion 7 to be a creature, Indestructible.

Creatures you control can only be blocked by 2 or more creatures.

Prevent all damage to attacking creatures you control.

7/4

I don't know if it's actually playable though, if you can turn it on its very effective, but it only lets you get through blockers without fear and how often are creature decks worried about getting blocked against Esper?

[RaggedAngel]

I don't know if it's actually playable though, if you can turn it on its very effective, but it only lets you get through blockers without fear and how often are creature decks worried about getting blocked against Esper?

True, but he allows creature decks to win against their mirrors and 4 is a perfect cost for a top-CMC card in an aggro deck. I think he'll see Standard play.

[Landis963]

Red aggro decks will love this card to pieces. White weenie will love this card to pieces (assuming of course that both have splash ability). Boros, possibly less so, because Boros Reckoner's a nonbo with it.

However, it means that any offensive a Boros deck can mount will be completely unblockable, so no deathtouch for you. Any such offensive will quickly grow past an opponent's ability to deal with it, esp. with supplementary legends such as Tajic or Anax. And once it hits 7 RW devotion, that's an extra 7 indestructible damage.

Not to mention of course that each god counts toward its own devotion, so that's 2 plus however many creatures you have on the field at the moment. Heck, assuming one on-color creature every turn and no interference, that's 5+ devotion by the time Iroas resolves. (turn one: 1-drop, 1 devotion. turn two: 2-drop, 2 or 3 devotion, turn 3: 3-drop, 3-6 devotion, turn 4: Iroas, 5-8 devotion)

And I'll admit a lack of familiarity here: does Esper win fast enough, or lock down the board fast enough, that Iroas turning on isn't a problem for them?

[Loreweaver15]

Me, I'm excited for Enchantress. :D

[Sith_Happens]

Mmm, new thread smell. Although i did like sith's name better this is also good.

Actually, if I'm counting "Sacrifice a paycheck..." for my streak for having mutated from one of mine, so did this one.

DOUBLE TURKEY ACHIEVED.

Don't worry about it, it was more a miscommunication than anything else. Keep building what you want, just try to give your lists more accurate names from now on.

Holy cow, has anyone seen Iroas, God of Victory? It was the Reddit spoiler card.

2WR

Devotion 7 to be a creature, Indestructible.

Creatures you control can only be blocked by 2 or more creatures.

Prevent all damage to attacking creatures you control.

7/4

It's funny, the rest of y'all are talking about Standard, but the first thing I think when I see this guy is "Best. Boros commander. Ever."

[Mystic Muse]

wait, are you getting all your cards signed by the people who did their art?
that's awesome

Yep. Have Dark Confidants signed by Scott M. Fischer, Each of the Sword of ____ and ____ signed by Chris Rahn, and my Deathrite Shamans and Liliana of the Veils signed by Steve Argyle. Mike Bierek is going to sign my Breeding pools and Stoneforge Mystics (Shush, they aren't Modern legal, but it's still a Modern card) and Izzy is going to sign my Marsh Flats.

[Landis963]

It's funny, the rest of y'all are talking about Standard, but the first thing I think when I see this guy is "Best. Boros commander. Ever."

RTR Boros immediately jumped to mind for me as well. If Tajic ever saw what Iroas could do for him, he'd probably sprout a very large and very confusing hard-on.

[IthilanorStPete]

They are generally considered the best equipment in the game not named Umezawa's Jitte or Batterskull.

Or Skullclamp, though that's less an equipment and more of an engine.

[Sith_Happens]

RTR Boros immediately jumped to mind for me as well. If Tajic ever saw what Iroas could do for him, he'd probably sprout a very large and very confusing hard-on.

I meant "commander" as in the creature your EDH deck is built around.

[Androgeus]

RTR Boros immediately jumped to mind for me as well. If Tajic ever saw what Iroas could do for him, he'd probably sprout a very large and very confusing hard-on.

What Iroas can do for Trajic: Let other dudes swing in freely so he gets +5/+5. not that amazing to me. Now Iroas and Aurelia, that really takes advantage of the safe attack.

[Duck999]

What do people think of Constellation?
Also, there is that weaker Urabrask.
And that one card that might go in one of my decks. Hall of Triumph. I don't think it is worth it in tribal, because there are better cards for that. EX: Elves have Archdruid, Vampires have captivating vampires, etc.

[Landis963]

I meant "commander" as in the creature your EDH deck is built around.

Yeah, that too.

What Iroas can do for Trajic: Let other dudes swing in freely so he gets +5/+5. not that amazing to me. Now Iroas and Aurelia, that really takes advantage of the safe attack.

Tajic's Battalion ability makes all attacking creatures indestructible. No Doom Blade for You!

[Loreweaver15]

What do people think of Constellation?

I, for one am EXCITED AS HELL about enchantress :D

[Duck999]

I, for one am EXCITED AS HELL about enchantress :D

As soon as this set is out, I will start working on a tribal enchantment deck. It might even work!

[Androgeus]

Tajic's Battalion ability makes all attacking creatures indestructible. No Doom Blade for You!

No it doesn't, all it does is give him +5/+5. If it did make your things indestructible it would be kinda pointless to use with Iroas Trajic is just kinda tragic.

[Istari]

Red aggro decks will love this card to pieces. White weenie will love this card to pieces (assuming of course that both have splash ability). Boros, possibly less so, because Boros Reckoner's a nonbo with it.

However, it means that any offensive a Boros deck can mount will be completely unblockable, so no deathtouch for you. Any such offensive will quickly grow past an opponent's ability to deal with it, esp. with supplementary legends such as Tajic or Anax. And once it hits 7 RW devotion, that's an extra 7 indestructible damage.

Not to mention of course that each god counts toward its own devotion, so that's 2 plus however many creatures you have on the field at the moment. Heck, assuming one on-color creature every turn and no interference, that's 5+ devotion by the time Iroas resolves. (turn one: 1-drop, 1 devotion. turn two: 2-drop, 2 or 3 devotion, turn 3: 3-drop, 3-6 devotion, turn 4: Iroas, 5-8 devotion)

And I'll admit a lack of familiarity here: does Esper win fast enough, or lock down the board fast enough, that Iroas turning on isn't a problem for them?

Esper is almost completely removal spells, so at least one of those creatures is dying to something, and the a board wipe on turn 4 is fairly common. After that aggro has a hard time recovering. Esper is also problematic since the only creatures it has are Elspeth tokens. Iroas is good enough for some of the other matchups that it will probably see play, especially vs Desecration Demon and Nightveil Specter in Mono-Black, and the small creatures in Mono-Blue.

[Landis963]

No it doesn't, all it does is give him +5/+5. If it did make your things indestructible it would be kinda pointless to use with Iroas Trajic is just kinda tragic.

Hrm. Dang, checked it myself. I could've sworn Tajic gave everything in the battalion indestructible. Oh wait, that's Frontline Medic. derp.

[Somensjev]

would a blue-black mill discard deck, using cards mostly from the scars of mirrodin, be viable in modern?

using cards like; jin-gitaxias core augur, sangromancer, despise, mindcrank, painful quandry, etc

[Mystic Muse]

would a blue-black mill discard deck, using cards mostly from the scars of mirrodin, be viable in modern?

using cards like; jin-gitaxias core augur, sangromancer, despise, mindcrank, painful quandry, etc

No, it would not.

First of all, the first two mentioned creatures die incredibly easy to every form of removal in Modern.

Second, despise isn't nearly good enough in modern. Neither is painful Quandary.

Mindcrank is part of a kill mill combo, but it doesn't use the above cards. It focuses on Mindcrank, Bloodchief ascension, and Dimir Guildmage last I checked.

[RaggedAngel]

would a blue-black mill discard deck, using cards mostly from the scars of mirrodin, be viable in modern?

using cards like; jin-gitaxias core augur, sangromancer, despise, mindcrank, painful quandry, etc

In general, Mill only works if it's the win-condition for a combo deck. "Normal" mill decks work like a Burn deck, except that your opponent starts at 53 life instead of 20.

[Sith_Happens]

...And Keranos is at least as good as I'd hoped he'd be. About the only way he'd be better would be if he copied spells.

[Fjolnir]

I am thinking of building draw-go with keranos, sigiled starfish, the blue howling mine enchantment and x where x is 48 other cards that assist me in winning the game...

[raymundo]

I'm like unreasonably super-excited about Dictate of Kruphix. Fits perfectly into the Extra Turns-Combo deck (I call it Turbo Emrakul) I'm playing in Modern atm as an alternative to Howling Mine. One extra mana isn't nice, but having the first extra draw instead of your opponent, Flash and it being an Enchantment insteand of an Artifact (and due to Affinity Artifact hate is abound in Modern SBs and some MDs) does make a biiiiig difference. Remanding something 2nd turn, flashing this bad boy in EOT of the opponents 3rd turn, then counter/tap and draw a card 4th turn to go into combo at 5th turn is suddenly much more realistic.

Here's a decklist, for those interested. I'll probably try a 3/2 split of Mine/Dictate.

(Coincidently, it's also a Modern mill deck. Or it can be, just don't hardcast Emrakul)

[Somensjev]

godsend looks like a rather nice equipment, does anyone think it'll see much play in standard?

[Mystic Muse]

godsend looks like a rather nice equipment, does anyone think it'll see much play in standard?

If I ever play Standard, I'm picking me up some of those because DAYUM.

It's actually really good. While not quite on-part with the Mirrodin swords in a lot of ways, it's close enough that I can see it being used in place of them in certain decks, depending on the swords in question, and it's pretty damn nuts on any creature with vigilance, especially one you can protect from removal.

It isn't quite as nice against decks that don't care about their creatures, like U/W or Esper control, but it's still a very good equipment.

[Sith_Happens]

godsend looks like a rather nice equipment, does anyone think it'll see much play in standard?

Godsend is pretty much a textbook example of what great equipment looks like.

[Fjolnir]

considering that the r/w god wants multiple blockers to one creature? the value on this thing is INSANE for a deck that would likely curve to 4 and play almost exclusively dudes. heck 3 of this, 3 iroas, and 4 madcap skills make for bad times all the time for opponents.

[Somensjev]

what does everyone think of the strive mechanic so far? i mean, there's only one card at the moment, but it has potential

[Tvtyrant]

Seems a lot like replicate, but cannot be repeatedly used on the same target. It also looks like it costs more compared to the initial mana cost.


As an aside, does anyone know when TCG forums are supposed to come back up? I have not been able to sign in for a long, long time.

[Sith_Happens]

what does everyone think of the strive mechanic so far? i mean, there's only one card at the moment, but it has potential

Depends entirely on what cards it's on and how much it costs on them. Remember, Cipher had potential too.